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Offline tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3795 on: June 23, 2015, 02:59:23 PM »
@ MarkE &PW

Below are 3 scope shots.
I have placed one of my large caps between the battery and motor,and the small cap across the brush wires as recommended. I have a 1 ohm 10 watt CVR on the negative side between the large cap and battery-->the blue trace is across that CVR. The yellow trace is across the input wires,probe between the large cap and battery on positive side-->common grounds together of course.
Scope shot one is with the scope set to average x4
Scope shot 2 is with scope set to sampling
Scope shot 3 is with scope set to peak detect.

Is this still to noisey on the input for my DMM's and/or an analog meter?.

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« Reply #3795 on: June 23, 2015, 02:59:23 PM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3796 on: June 23, 2015, 03:18:29 PM »
Schematic for input test .

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3797 on: June 23, 2015, 03:40:43 PM »
@ MarkE &PW

Below are 3 scope shots.
I have placed one of my large caps between the battery and motor,and the small cap across the brush wires as recommended. I have a 1 ohm 10 watt CVR on the negative side between the large cap and battery-->the blue trace is across that CVR. The yellow trace is across the input wires,probe between the large cap and battery on positive side-->common grounds together of course.
Scope shot one is with the scope set to average x4
Scope shot 2 is with scope set to sampling
Scope shot 3 is with scope set to peak detect.

Is this still to noisey on the input for my DMM's and/or an analog meter?.

Tinman,

Does the scope/CVR measurement agree with the inline ammeter (DMM)?

800mV across 1 ohm?

PW

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3797 on: June 23, 2015, 03:40:43 PM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3798 on: June 23, 2015, 03:43:54 PM »
Brad:

I want to commend you on your ongoing work and your work with Mark and PW on this project.  We will see how it turns out.

I am now going to wax poetic a bit.

This clip is very important for any experimenter to look at:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASd0t3n8Bnc

It's not related to electronics but that doesn't matter.  It's the best video I have ever seen on the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse.

From the description, "This documentary took second place at Nationals in National History Day 2007 in the junior group division. The theme was Tragedy and Triumph."

Assuming that high school kids made the video, they did a truly fantastic job.

Here is a very brief article about a similar thing that happened in Canada in the early 20th century:

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/quebec-bridge-disaster-feature/

Quote, "Of the 86 workers on the bridge that August 29, 1907, 75 died, many of them local Caughnawaga, famous for their high steel work. Some of the dead had been crushed by the twisted steel; others by the fall. Still others drowned before the rescue boats could reach them."

Okay, the philosophical musings will be in the next post.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3799 on: June 23, 2015, 04:06:01 PM »
In Canada, when you get your engineering diploma, you have a "secret" "Iron Ring" ceremony.  They give you an iron ring for all of your hard work and you wear it on your pinky.

In the ceremony, there are iron chains for you to hold while you recite your engineering oath. The chains extend from a long table on the center stage out into the audience.  So in theory you are "connected" to everyone and connected to the engineering dignitaries that are sitting at the center table.

There is a myth, and even though it is a myth, it's still a nice symbolic story.  The myth is that the metal used to make the iron rings comes from one of the girders of the bridge that collapsed in Quebec.

So what do you think you say in your oath?  Something like, "I am a hot-shot and now with my engineering diploma in hand I am going to run out and change the world?"   Like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs changed the world?

Well, in fact you basically state the opposite.  You state that you are a clueless newbie, you are a babe in the woods.  You state that you have no experience and no authority to state anything about anything.  You are humbled and you are reminded that you have to gain life experience and you have to work hard and work at learning and you have to work hard to gain respect from your peers and from the general public at large.

The idea that your ring was smelted from a girder from the collapsed bridge, even though it's just a story, is to remind you that you have to be responsible and accountable and conduct yourself properly and work for the benefit and betterment of your fellow man.  You are never to irresponsibly assume anything or make any oversights because people are counting on you to do the right thing and you have a serious responsibility to try to never let there be another bridge that collapses.

And then you get your iron ring.

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« Reply #3799 on: June 23, 2015, 04:06:01 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3800 on: June 23, 2015, 04:09:33 PM »
@ MarkE &PW

Below are 3 scope shots.
I have placed one of my large caps between the battery and motor,and the small cap across the brush wires as recommended. I have a 1 ohm 10 watt CVR on the negative side between the large cap and battery-->the blue trace is across that CVR. The yellow trace is across the input wires,probe between the large cap and battery on positive side-->common grounds together of course.
Scope shot one is with the scope set to average x4
Scope shot 2 is with scope set to sampling
Scope shot 3 is with scope set to peak detect.

Is this still to noisey on the input for my DMM's and/or an analog meter?.

Hi Brad,

great work as usual

I assume the ch2 0.760 volts is with the circuit and globe operating?
Can you do a scope shot of just the motor operating (no circuit and globe) so we have both to compare.

Thanks mate

Luc

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3801 on: June 23, 2015, 04:25:01 PM »
@EMJ
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I agree, the cost, Time away from Family, and Monetary, is massive for some of us!

Yes, low life scumbags will always try to benefit from others hard
work! So be sketchy, don't show all, make others work hard for it. Let the
pieces of the puzzle fit for only the ones willing to put the hard work into it.
For it is only them that will be able to make it work anyway!

Others, the Office Chair Professionals, can never comprehend, never see for what this really is, only imagine what can be done!

I remember I used to think like that but then somewhere along the line as all the pieces of the puzzle started coming together I simply changed my mind. It was never for me to prove anything to anyone other than myself and I decided I am going to give it all away, no strings attached, on a silver platter when I'm ready. Why... because I can and to prove to myself that I am nothing like them.
I'm sure many would like to wrap it up with patents and contracts but that is not the way it's going to happen because the choice is mine and mine alone. You see if we claim to know better and want to do better then we need to prove it with our actions and becoming everything we say we are not is not the way. I will not become them nor will I resort to their ways and that is the whole point in my opinion. If we are going to claim to be different then the change must start with us... I refuse to judge or hate it is not the way forward.
 
AC

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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3802 on: June 23, 2015, 04:29:59 PM »

Hi Chris ,

Yes is true , people sometimes forget about the time that we expend without family and friends when make research.
People need to put hands to work not simple wait the "things" follow down .
People always try to benefit from others every time trying the easy way,   is in their nature .

The problem sometimes to start  is the doubts and confusions created by "agitators" that promote resignation and denial of some phenomena like the one discussed here.
The trials and tests that are required for some ppl are not always fair and are just an excuse to dissuade people from "trying" and observe with own eyes some of these type results.
Things are changing, most people also yearn for this change, and not even all odds may prevent this change in global consciousness.

Good luck to all!

Honestly, you and Chris are examples of enthusiasts thinking the opposite way you should be thinking.  You are prejudging a situation without having all the information and analysis completed.  Not to mention the silly demonization of good people.

Example #1:  "The problem sometimes to start  is the doubts and confusions created by "agitators" that promote resignation and denial of some phenomena like the one discussed here."

The truth is that you have no idea at all if there are any "phenomena."   You need to have the wisdom to not jump to conclusions.

There are no "agitators" here.  That is an irresponsible thing to say to try to advance your own personal "us vs. them" agenda.

Example #2:  "The trials and tests that are required for some ppl are not always fair and are just an excuse to dissuade people from "trying" and observe with own eyes some of these type results."

The trials and tests are perfectly fair.  Mark and Picowatt bring a wealth of experience and knowledge to this forum.  You have no idea how good it is and how lucky you are that they contribute to this forum.

There is no "excuse" to dissuade people from doing their own testing.  That is patently false and you are just "spinning."  There are no "results" yet.  The only thing we have right now is ongoing testing.  That is another false statement from you.

Nelson, when Tinman completes his investigation with the help of Mark and Picowatt, if the final results of the investigation are not what you were expecting, I challenge you to come back here and post a public apology for your incorrect statements and for your impugning the characters of good people around here.   I want to see you be just as accountable for your actions and statements as an engineer is accountable for his actions and statements.

MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3803 on: June 23, 2015, 04:30:59 PM »
Hi Brad,

great work as usual

I assume the ch2 0.760 volts is with the circuit and globe operating?
Can you do a scope shot of just the motor operating (no circuit and globe) so we have both to compare.

Thanks mate

Luc

I will do that tomorrow,but for now im hitting the shower,then the hay. It is exactly 0*C here ATM lol,and i have work tomorrow-6am start. I believe i will once again be deicing my windscreen.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3804 on: June 23, 2015, 04:37:41 PM »
Tinman,

Does the scope/CVR measurement agree with the inline ammeter (DMM)?

800mV across 1 ohm?

PW
The scope shows 760mV across the CVR,so that is 760mA. My DMM was reading 746 mA,so a 15mA difference. I did not have the DMM in the circuit during the last test with the CVR in play,nor did i have the caps in play when using my DMM to measure current. The DMM's CVR is only .2 ohms as well,so less power would have been dissipated across the CVR of the DMM.

As we are talking 9.5 to 10 watts of power,i think my DMM done a very good job at reading the current without the filtering cap's-->as they always have.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3805 on: June 23, 2015, 05:25:48 PM »
Honestly, you and Chris are examples of enthusiasts thinking the opposite way you should be thinking.  You are prejudging a situation without having all the information and analysis completed.  Not to mention the silly demonization of good people.

Example #1:  "The problem sometimes to start  is the doubts and confusions created by "agitators" that promote resignation and denial of some phenomena like the one discussed here."

The truth is that you have no idea at all if there are any "phenomena."   You need to have the wisdom to not jump to conclusions.

There are no "agitators" here.  That is an irresponsible thing to say to try to advance your own personal "us vs. them" agenda.

Example #2:  "The trials and tests that are required for some ppl are not always fair and are just an excuse to dissuade people from "trying" and observe with own eyes some of these type results."

The trials and tests are perfectly fair.  Mark and Picowatt bring a wealth of experience and knowledge to this forum.  You have idea how good it is and how lucky you are that they contribute to this forum.

There is no "excuse" to dissuade people from doing their own testing.  That is patently false and you are just "spinning."  There are no "results" yet.  The only thing we have right now is ongoing testing.  That is another false statement from you.

Nelson, when Tinman completes his investigation with the help of Mark and Picowatt, if the final results of the investigation are not what you were expecting, I challenge you to come back here and post a public apology for your incorrect statements and for your impugning the characters of good people around here.   I want to see you be just as accountable for your actions and statements as an engineer is accountable for his actions and statements.

MileHigh

You're really a sour person!
Which leads you to conclude that no longer have since my conclusions on this subject? You're really naive. lol
I certainly do not give you satisfaction about what I know, because only me as I'm concerned.
I also have bills to pay my dear, and to support family like everyone else.
Moreover nothing of what I know could have interest to you, you're too smart!

What me the most satisfaction is to see some people start having results, and see how much it bothers you because otherwise you would not have a speech as caustic as you show, just  make me feel  sick.
It is that you should hear more the signs of time.
Challenges? No one takes you seriously do not understand it?

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« Reply #3805 on: June 23, 2015, 05:25:48 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3806 on: June 23, 2015, 05:38:05 PM »
@ MarkE &PW

Below are 3 scope shots.
I have placed one of my large caps between the battery and motor,and the small cap across the brush wires as recommended. I have a 1 ohm 10 watt CVR on the negative side between the large cap and battery-->the blue trace is across that CVR. The yellow trace is across the input wires,probe between the large cap and battery on positive side-->common grounds together of course.
Scope shot one is with the scope set to average x4
Scope shot 2 is with scope set to sampling
Scope shot 3 is with scope set to peak detect.

Is this still to noisey on the input for my DMM's and/or an analog meter?.
It looks OK to me.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3807 on: June 23, 2015, 07:15:53 PM »
hi guys again to show you what I did in 2012. experiment with a washing machine motor and this motor can get up to 2600 rpm at 24 volts at 308amps. the diodes acts as a short at the appropriate cycle..

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3808 on: June 23, 2015, 07:20:21 PM »
CORRECTION AT 3.08AMPS

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3809 on: June 24, 2015, 12:47:32 AM »

Hi Chris ,

Yes is true , people sometimes forget about the time that we expend without family and friends when make research.
People need to put hands to work not simple wait the "things" follow down .
People always try to benefit from others every time trying the easy way,   is in their nature .

The problem sometimes to start  is the doubts and confusions created by "agitators" that promote resignation and denial of some phenomena like the one discussed here.
The trials and tests that are required for some ppl are not always fair and are just an excuse to dissuade people from "trying" and observe with own eyes some of these type results.
Things are changing, most people also yearn for this change, and not even all odds may prevent this change in global consciousness.

Good luck to all!

Hi Nelson,

Yes, things are changing!

Its now the time of the pilferer! We will always see others try to put their own 2 cents in and claim as their own!

It seems others have a real hard time giving credit where credit is due. But, my goal, the ball is now rolling! People are starting to see results. Starting to see why this, Partnered Output Coils, is important!

This is why I have saved the best till last, we will see, soon, when the time is right, such simplicity, such perfection, that all other implementations will instantly become obsolete!

   Chris Sykes
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