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seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3780 on: June 23, 2015, 11:03:39 AM »
BECUASE I LIVE IN THE SEYCHELLES ISLANDS AND ALL THE BEACHES ARE BEING WASHED AWAY AND SO IS OUR HOMES WE NEED A NEW ENERGY SOLUTION YESTERDAY.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3781 on: June 23, 2015, 11:10:15 AM »
COME ON GUYS LETS GET ON WITH THIS GREAT DISCOVERY FROM TINMAN. LET US ALL TRY TO CONSTRUCT THIS DEVICE AND GET A BETTER RESULT..

1) History tells us that in such matters the chanes of success are extremely remote.
2) Reliable tests are not complete.
3) This is Tinman's design.  If it defies 1) and actually produces surplus energy, he oesn't want to just completely give it away.

So, be calm and wait for Tinman to do tests with good decoupling on the motor side like he has on the bulb side and see what the device really does.

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3782 on: June 23, 2015, 11:34:03 AM »
1) History tells us that in such matters the chanes of success are extremely remote.
2) Reliable tests are not complete.
3) This is Tinman's design.  If it defies 1) and actually produces surplus energy, he oesn't want to just completely give it away.

So, be calm and wait for Tinman to do tests with good decoupling on the motor side like he has on the bulb side and see what the device really does.

@MarkE

How about you present an Input De-Coupled Circuit that satisfies all of your requirements for Tinman to follow, and if he is agreeable to proceed with your Circuit and present the results, you just may have your answer.

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hoptoad

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3783 on: June 23, 2015, 11:40:14 AM »
@Tinman. After watching your latest video I have one question. Is there any modification to the rotor coils / commutator arrangements required, e.g, like the rotoverter, where some coil segments are cut away from the commutator ?  I'm a little late to this party and I'm unsure of what I've missed!


Regarding simple measurements, do you have any analogue meters.? Can't beat them for real time averaging. Cheers and KneeDeep.


Thanks for sharing your work. Good luck with further research on this. It looks promising.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3784 on: June 23, 2015, 11:55:48 AM »
Just a little off-topic comment that some may find interesting.

I have a Windows 7 computer, first-generation quad core.  For some reason just about every computer I have ever had randomly "eats keyboard characters" when I am typing.  It drives me nuts sometimes.  There is some unknown process that somehow kills characters that should be going into the keyboard buffer.  And the keyboard buffer is pretty much independent from other things going on in the computer which makes it that much harder to explain.  It seems like I have never been able to escape this problem.

Sometimes the "character eating" will remove a full word like "the" or "scope."  It all depends on how fast I can type and how long the "blackout" is.

When you read text, for the average person you read in short complete clumps of words at a time.  The problem when you read back prose that you just composed is that it's also automatically playing back in your head from memory, like a tape recorder.  That can override what you are actually reading.

What can happen is that when you proof read your own text you literally can't see your mistakes, like you are blind.  Between the "reading clumps of words at a time" and the "tape recorder playback" your brain simply fills in the missing words.  Sentences are compromised because whole words are missing but are usually still understandable.  It's a real pain in the butt.

Twice today I had to add missing words to my long posting because I simply could not see the mistakes first go round.  It's very frustrating sometimes because to an outsider you can look grammatically or logically challenged because of course they see all of the mistakes.

Having a keyboard/computer that doesn't eat characters would help.  For me it's like I have to wait about 24 hours to see some errors because I have to substantially forget exactly what I wrote so the "tape recorder playback" is shut off.   So I apologize for the strange looking sentences or other typos, sometime I literally can't see them.

MileHigh

The first thing you need to do MH is get rid of windows 7. My wife runs windows 7 on her laptop-and same ruddy problem. Reading some of her post on facebook can be a hoot some times lol. Bits of words missing all over the place. My friend that runs windows 7 has the same problem-all new gear too. I run XP(is there any other program?),and my gear is over 6 years old,and i never have a problem- other than my own spelling some times lol.

MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3785 on: June 23, 2015, 12:00:33 PM »
may they rest in peace

I'd also like a moratorium

Oh my God, how embarrassing, I made a mistake.  Talk about having crossed signals in your head.

I can make a confession about another embarrassing thing that happened recently to me.  The actress Nichelle Nichols who played Uhura on the original Star Trek recently had a mild stroke.  I saw the news about that online recently and did a double-take.

Nichelle Nichols?  I have read and heard her name thousands of times and the whole time I was sure it was "Michelle Nichols."

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3786 on: June 23, 2015, 12:05:44 PM »
A very Quick and telling Test
if you know your input power
Take the device and put it in a box [cardboard] not too big
put a thermometer in the box and note the temp outside.[hopefully its a bit cold out]

take the same  box and put the appropriate bulb [or resistor] in that box with the same input power.[NOTHING BUT THE BULB OR RESISTOR IN THAT BOX}

Run both tests simultaneously in the same outside temp.
if the box with the device gets hotter [with the same input power]

do the happy Dance and expect more sleepless nights

This is a fixed loss to ambient test and has saved me [and others ]
untold hours of guessing about instruments and Phases and other measurement issues;
thx to ION [Vortex 1] for this protocol]

a card board Box and a thermometer
KISS

respectfully

Chet K
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Note to Chris
this test will work for you every time you want to test your Claims.[if you know your input]



EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3787 on: June 23, 2015, 12:38:02 PM »
A very Quick and telling Test
if you know your input power
Take the device and put it in a box [cardboard] not too big
put a thermometer in the box and note the temp outside.[hopefully its a bit cold out]

take the same  box and put the appropriate bulb [or resistor] in that box with the same input power.[NOTHING BUT THE BULB OR RESISTOR IN THAT BOX}

Run both tests simultaneously in the same outside temp.
if the box with the device gets hotter [with the same input power]

do the happy Dance and expect more sleepless nights

This is a fixed loss to ambient test and has saved me [and others ]
untold hours of guessing about instruments and Phases and other measurement issues;
thx to ION [Vortex 1] for this protocol]

a card board Box and a thermometer
KISS

respectfully

Chet K
PS
Note to Chris
this test will work for you every time you want to test your Claims.[if you know your input]

@Ramset,

I read a quote sometime back. I was looking for it and could not find it until today. This is so much more true than you could possibly know:

Quote

http://prahlad.org/pub/bearden/Updated-Chapter3.pdf

The test results are so impressive that there can be no question of errors of measurement when the energy gain is of the order of 1,500,000 times.


There comes a point when one does not need to rely on such minor details of Thermal Exchange to prove or disprove to oneself a Concept. None the less, a good and meaningful experiment to keep for small devices!

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tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3788 on: June 23, 2015, 12:40:13 PM »
To all reading this thread.

Some may have missed it,but i will only be showing the results after they are completed in a way that the EE guys are happy with.
I will not be disclosing the full schematic or the design/modifications to the motor it self-although i have a feeling woopy is going to crack this one.
There are reasons for this
1-i have seen first hand how there are those that take others hard work,and profit from it. There are thieves amongst us. Take that thief tesla tronix for example ,who stole slayer's work,started a kickstarter funding campaign ,and made a wopping profit from it-->while Slayer was left high and dry.
So thats what happens to guys that throw there hard work out there for others. You get greedy pricks like tesla(the tossa)tronix take it,and profit from it.

To date,i have spent over $12 000.00 on equipment and part's to build and experiment with the devices you have seen from me + another 50 today on gauges just to measure input power. I'm not even going to take a guess at the amount of time that i have put into all this stuff,but it comes at a personal cost-->that being time that could have been spent with my family.

So to be up front,i have lost faith,in that people will do the right thing--.like they say,money changes everything. People see dollar sign's,and forget about doing the right thing. So this is the very reason i made it very clear that i would not be disclosing the device as a whole. There is also the fact that the P/in has not yet been measured to the satisfaction of those that know far more than i do-the EE guy's. Although i see what i see in my device,i cant yet argue that this go's against everything we believe to be true as far as those !known! laws of physics go. If we are to stick to those law's,then i have screw'd something up some where in my measurements.

At this point in time,i am still carrying out those measurements that are in agreement with those that do this for a living,and as MH kindly pointed out,i have got it wrong a few times in the past. This is why i clearly stated to MH that it !appears! as though the device is producing more power than it is consuming. What you have seen so far is exactly what i have seen so far.

I will be posting the end result's here,weather they are good,or i once again have got it all wrong.
If it turns out that what i think i am seeing is correct,then i really dont know just yet where i will go from there. If i have screw'd up the measurements once again,then i'll see you all next week with my next project.

Brad.

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3789 on: June 23, 2015, 12:45:06 PM »
my circuit cheers.

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3790 on: June 23, 2015, 12:53:07 PM »
I will posting a new video of some thing different but along the same trend if I sort out my ability to download this video.. thank you. cheers

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3791 on: June 23, 2015, 12:59:03 PM »
they also say MONEY TALKS DINASOUR SHITWALKS. :D

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3792 on: June 23, 2015, 01:02:04 PM »
To all reading this thread.

Some may have missed it,but i will only be showing the results after they are completed in a way that the EE guys are happy with.
I will not be disclosing the full schematic or the design/modifications to the motor it self-although i have a feeling woopy is going to crack this one.
There are reasons for this
1-i have seen first hand how there are those that take others hard work,and profit from it. There are thieves amongst us. Take that thief tesla tronix for example ,who stole slayer's work,started a kickstarter funding campaign ,and made a wopping profit from it-->while Slayer was left high and dry.
So thats what happens to guys that throw there hard work out there for others. You get greedy pricks like tesla(the tossa)tronix take it,and profit from it.

To date,i have spent over $12 000.00 on equipment and part's to build and experiment with the devices you have seen from me + another 50 today on gauges just to measure input power. I'm not even going to take a guess at the amount of time that i have put into all this stuff,but it comes at a personal cost-->that being time that could have been spent with my family.

So to be up front,i have lost faith,in that people will do the right thing--.like they say,money changes everything. People see dollar sign's,and forget about doing the right thing. So this is the very reason i made it very clear that i would not be disclosing the device as a whole. There is also the fact that the P/in has not yet been measured to the satisfaction of those that know far more than i do-the EE guy's. Although i see what i see in my device,i cant yet argue that this go's against everything we believe to be true as far as those !known! laws of physics go. If we are to stick to those law's,then i have screw'd something up some where in my measurements.

At this point in time,i am still carrying out those measurements that are in agreement with those that do this for a living,and as MH kindly pointed out,i have got it wrong a few times in the past. This is why i clearly stated to MH that it !appears! as though the device is producing more power than it is consuming. What you have seen so far is exactly what i have seen so far.

I will be posting the end result's here,weather they are good,or i once again have got it all wrong.
If it turns out that what i think i am seeing is correct,then i really dont know just yet where i will go from there. If i have screw'd up the measurements once again,then i'll see you all next week with my next project.

Brad.

@Tinman - I agree, the cost, Time away from Family, and Monetary, is massive for some of us!

Yes, low life scumbags will always try to benefit from others hard work! So be sketchy, don't show all, make others work hard for it. Let the pieces of the puzzle fit for only the ones willing to put the hard work into it. For it is only them that will be able to make it work anyway!

Others, the Office Chair Professionals, can never comprehend, never see for what this really is, only imagine what can be done!

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hoptoad

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3793 on: June 23, 2015, 01:06:50 PM »
snip....
I will be posting the end result's here,weather they are good,or i once again have got it all wrong.
If it turns out that what i think i am seeing is correct,then i really dont know just yet where i will go from there. If i have screw'd up the measurements once again,then i'll see you all next week with my next project.

Brad.


Either way, thanks for sharing what you have thus far, and good luck for the future whichever way the chips fall.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3794 on: June 23, 2015, 01:57:34 PM »
@Tinman - I agree, the cost, Time away from Family, and Monetary, is massive for some of us!

Yes, low life scumbags will always try to benefit from others hard work! So be sketchy, don't show all, make others work hard for it. Let the pieces of the puzzle fit for only the ones willing to put the hard work into it. For it is only them that will be able to make it work anyway!

Others, the Office Chair Professionals, can never comprehend, never see for what this really is, only imagine what can be done!

   Chris Sykes
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Hi Chris ,

Yes is true , people sometimes forget about the time that we expend without family and friends when make research.
People need to put hands to work not simple wait the "things" follow down .
People always try to benefit from others every time trying the easy way,   is in their nature .

The problem sometimes to start  is the doubts and confusions created by "agitators" that promote resignation and denial of some phenomena like the one discussed here.
The trials and tests that are required for some ppl are not always fair and are just an excuse to dissuade people from "trying" and observe with own eyes some of these type results.
Things are changing, most people also yearn for this change, and not even all odds may prevent this change in global consciousness.

Good luck to all!