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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 2955222 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2205 on: May 03, 2015, 01:24:20 PM »
You are getting super low-level there Mark.  KISS comes to mind.
The point is that there are no subtle 6 decimal point out tricks going on.  For practice and purpose things are as shown in the graphs:  At T0 the 2H inductor begins integrating at 0.5A/s.  Additionally, the 1H inductor carries no current.  Two seconds later we turn the MOSFET off relatively quickly.  One may assume any transition time from 10ns to 100ns.  IOW:  much less than 1us.

Our resident OU claimants appear unwilling to take any kind of crack at the circuit.  I will offer one additional hint:  This circuit is very similar to one that has been published thousands and thousands of times.

Offline Red_Sunset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2206 on: May 03, 2015, 01:35:06 PM »
Hopefully the diagram above clarifies any uncertainty.

MarkE
From your explanation I hope you realize that your diagram would have better been better served by connecting the input to the supply line and driving the "PWR & INPUT" as one.
Red,


Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2207 on: May 03, 2015, 01:35:23 PM »


Wow, how popular is this?

Last one till the AM:

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2208 on: May 03, 2015, 01:36:39 PM »
Okay, here is an attempt to help some people out that may be intimidated by the MOSFET and the switching times and stuff like that.

Attached is a variation on the circuit.  It eliminates the MOSFET and uses a relay, and it's an ideal relay with zero switching times and zero resistance.  Otherwise it's almost an identical circuit.  You notice that a small parasitic capacitance of 100 nF was also added to the circuit.  The capacitance will not fundamentally change what the circuit does.

Feel free to with work with the relay variation of the circuit if you want.  Or work with the original.  Both circuit's behaviour will be quite similar.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2209 on: May 03, 2015, 01:52:30 PM »
MarkE
From your explanation I hope you realize that your diagram would have better been better served by connecting the input to the supply line and driving the "PWR & INPUT" as one.
Red,
No, that would not work.  The supply needs to be connected from T0 to the end of the experiment.  The center path through the MOSFET connects for the first two seconds that it takes the 1V across the 2H coil to build I1 up to 1A.  At that point the MOSFET rapidly turns-off, and what MH has been asking our OU promoters is:  "What happens then?".  It is not a complicated circuit.  And aside from the MOSFET, all the other other circuit elements have been stipulated as free of parasitics.

MH drew the circuit with just a switch in the center leg, stipulating that 1A was flowing through the 2H inductor and the center switch.  Enjoykin objected that the circuit diagram was "not proper" because MH did not show how the 1A came to flow through the 2H inductor in the first place.  This circuit applies 1V for two seconds to establish that current.  Despite accommodating the only stated objection, neither Enjoykin nor EMJ have made any attempt to answer MH's first question:  "What happens when 1A is flowing through the 2H inductor and the center path opens rapidly?".  I would think that anyone trying to argue that they know how coils work, particularly to the extent that they claim to be able to obtain free energy results that ordinary practitioners do not, should be able to deal with such a simple and idealized thought problem.

Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2210 on: May 03, 2015, 02:21:06 PM »
Mark,  Regading to OU, Would you accept the fact, that if you close /open circuit "abruptly" , It will emit the scalar waves. - According to Tesla and others.  No simulations consider this possibility. I think Eric Dollard was experimenting with this too. Or is he in the same league as BruceTPU, EMJunkie , Enjoyking and possibly T. Berden?  :D

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2211 on: May 03, 2015, 02:36:46 PM »
Mark,  Regading to OU, Would you accept the fact, that if you close /open circuit "abruptly" , It will emit the scalar waves. - According to Tesla and others.  No simulations consider this possibility. I think Eric Dollard was experimenting with this too. Or is he in the same league as BruceTPU, EMJunkie , Enjoyking and possibly T. Berden?  :D
What do you think a scalar wave is?  What properties does it supposedly have that distinguish it from other kinds of waves?  Why should I expect it to manifest when the MOSFET in this circuit switches off? 

Are you referring to the diagrammed circuit or one similar to it as what you say EPD was experimenting with?

EPD like anyone else may be judged on how consistently his claims match reality.  For example how does his "Cosmic Induction Generator" compare to his claims for it?  Ditto for Bearden.  How does his MEG compare to Bearden's claims for it?

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2212 on: May 03, 2015, 02:47:39 PM »

Mark,  Regading to OU, Would you accept the fact, that if you close /open circuit "abruptly" , It will emit the scalar waves. - According to Tesla and others.  No simulations consider this possibility. I think Eric Dollard was experimenting with this too. Or is he in the same league as BruceTPU, EMJunkie , Enjoyking and possibly T. Berden?  :D


John.K1 - From what I hear, Eric Dollard was only ever experimenting with the Bottle and Hard Drugs!!!

Shame!!!

Lets talk about League, the term....

EG: The Goon Squad League - Cant even get a simple circuit right and agree on it - Hahahaha, he said she said and MileHigh said toooooo wa wa wa wa....

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Hero's, legends... All out Good Guys...

Quote

noun 
1. a covenant or compact made between persons, parties, states, etc., for the promotion or maintenance of common interests or for mutual assistance or service.

2. the aggregation of persons, parties, states, etc., associated in such a covenant or compact; confederacy.

3. an association of individuals having a common goal.

4. a group of athletic teams organized to promote mutual interests and to compete chiefly among themselves:
    a bowling league.

5. Sports. 
    a. major league.
    b. minor league.

6. group; class; category: As a pianist he just simply isn't in your league.

verb (used with object), verb (used without object), leagued, leaguing. 
7. to unite in a league; combine.


Idioms 
8. in league, working together, often secretly or for a harmful purpose; united.


Now, do a Bunch of Intellectually Challenged Goons qualify to be in a League?

    Brigadier: MarkE
    Lieutenant: MileHigh
    Captain: TK
    Private: Bill

Maybe we can define this situation: The League of GOONS!!!

Now, History shows, the Future, if there is much of one, will also show, one amazing thing. I am right, the people I referenced are right, the Science behind what I have said is right. Some will listen and learn, others will not. For example, Humans cant Fly can they MileHigh?

The Future will be great, amazing things will come forth...

The Goon Squad will make history as the dumbest people that ever lived!

Let me ask you, do you know the definition of a Scalar Wave? What does it mean, how is it formed and what does it represent?

I can give you the direct link to the Video file that gives the definition if you need it? Click Here and another: Click Here

   Chris

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2213 on: May 03, 2015, 02:54:58 PM »

Another ripper of a file: Click Here

Many would not know this either!

Don't be swindled by the GOON SQUAD!!!

Think Free, Be Free, they are nothing but CIA/NSA TROLLS - I can help you See the Light! Here is your Fluoride!

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2214 on: May 03, 2015, 02:59:00 PM »


Now who else has said similar things to what I have said: Click Here

Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2215 on: May 03, 2015, 03:03:52 PM »
Mark, all I want to say, there might be something behind of our standard physics. You  solve the circuit with the standard physics. And you are strongly not accepting any possibilities of "unusual behaviors". Quantum physics is still unknown water. Scientists nor you are able say what the magnetism is.  Sure you will not get OU from this circuit if you are focus only on conventional physics. I do not know if there is OU, but at least I am not saying there is not.  In fact there is, E=mc2.  That's the energy stored in your circuit.   Just get it spin at c ;)

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2216 on: May 03, 2015, 03:12:57 PM »
Mark, all I want to say, there might be something behind of our standard physics. You  solve the circuit with the standard physics. And you are strongly not accepting any possibilities of "unusual behaviors". Quantum physics is still unknown water. Scientists nor you are able say what the magnetism is.  Sure you will not get OU from this circuit if you are focus only on conventional physics. I do not know if there is OU, but at least I am not saying there is not.  In fact there is, E=mc2.  That's the energy stored in your circuit.   Just get it spin at c ;)
John you ask me if I accept that something happens that you have not described.  I don't play argument from ignorance or gap of the gods.  I deal in things that we can develop reliable evidence for or against. 

If you have some idea that there is an unaccepted behavior that occurs under some conditions, then describe both and we can see first if such a thing has already been considered and falsified or what it would take to design a falsifying experiment.  If you think that this circuit generates excess energy under some condition then specify the condition.  I will tell you right off that a variation of this circuit has been widely and deeply studied without any indication of OU.

Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2217 on: May 03, 2015, 03:15:31 PM »
Mark, I am working on it. Give me couple years ;)  I learn the electronics first :D

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2218 on: May 03, 2015, 09:46:52 PM »
In speaking to Mark in email I came to the realization that I made several mistakes.   And that's all part of the process of learning.

But if you don't venture out, you don't try to come up with the answer, then you forfeit all chances to get it right and to also make mistakes.  Like that you never learn.

Look at Chris as an example.  He is petrified of this example because he doesn't know what to do or even how to approach the problem.  Heck, he didn't even know what to discuss to start formulating an answer.  Seemingly, all that he can do is spam and mock the thread.

What Chris is doing is being the real goon.  He is actively stomping around on this thread and mocking and attacking the opportunity for people to actually learn something.  When you think about it, it's completely crazy.  An opportunity comes along to learn some basic things about real coils and real circuits, and the guy that is "inviting you to come over to his site and learn" is acting like the goon in the back of the class.  He is disruptive and thinks it's "cool to act dumb and be stupid" because for him school means staring out the window during class and waiting for gym period.  And of course if you are three years behind in elementary school then gym class is more fun because you are considerably bigger and stronger than everybody else.

MileHigh

Offline forest

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2219 on: May 03, 2015, 09:51:36 PM »
Learn what ? What is the purpose of this circuit ?