@Mags,

Here's a link to Bedini's original:

http://rexresearch.com/bediniscalar/bediniscalar.htm

I came across this experiment on "Bucking Magnet Fields" and "Scaler Waves". I found it interesting because it demonstrates that Scaler Waves are emitted from the joint between the magnet faces at certain frequencies. This caused me to reflect on the Jerry Bayles spinning "Chiral Disk" magnet tests. (Chiral=Bucking). The experimenter's lighting a "Zenon tube" just exciting the magnet windings with that DC motor!
        _______
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      |  \   \ _______\ S
       \   \  |       |      Obtain two Radio Shack ceramic magnets and
         \   \|_______| N    glue their north pole faces together.
           \  |       | N
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            _______          Wind the magnets with about 50 turns
          |\   \\\  \        of #30 magnet wire.  Wire gauge is not
          |  \  \\\\  \      critical.
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                     \  |      ________
                     |  |     [ small, ]
                     |   -----[ noisy  ]----------o
                     |        [_motor__]           6v to 12v power supply
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The brush noise from the DC motor provides a pulse signal to the coil,
which modulates the 'colliding' field pattern of the magnets and creates
interesting scalar effects within a narrow pencil-beam pattern which extends
from each face of the magnet out to a few inches.

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  <<<<<<<<<<<\   \ _\\\\__\>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scalar effect comes from the
  <<<<<<<<<<<<<\  |  |||| |>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joint between magnet faces
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I tried that one a long time ago, 15 years or more. I even had the motor spinning the magnet assembly on its long axis in one version. This was supposed to influence plant growth, as I recall.

In the example you cite, the xenon flashtube is being flashed by ordinary inductive collapse spikes, nothing more. Xenon is actually highly conductive at low pressures. 

Now, if someone can make the xenon tube flash without it being connected by wires to the coil, just by "beaming the scalar waves" at it ... please let me know right away.

Conrad, TK:

Okay, my take on Conrad's measurements.

Analysis at 50 Hz (10 V peak to peak sine wave or AC from the Function Generator):

V1eff = 2.3 V , I1eff = V1eff / R1 = 2.3 / 100 = 23 mA , V2eff = 2.3 V, ϴ= 3°

Watt1 = V2eff * I1eff = 53 mW

Watt2 = V1eff * I1eff = 53 mW

Watt3 = (V2eff - V1eff) * I1eff * cos(ϴ) = ~ 0  mW  (coil H1 has no inductance at 50 Hz, 23 mA, needs more Ampere, output from H2 + H3 through R2 is ~ 0 mW, measurement not shown)

It looks like the reactance of the H1 primary inductance is so low at 50 Hz that it is a "nearly dead short," and the actual impedance of H1 is a combination of the (wire resistance of the coil itself and the very low inductive reactance and the teenie-weenie apparent resistive load on the bucking-coils secondary).   Note we assume that the wire resistance is low, the reactance is low, and the apparent load from the bucking coils is very very low and pretty much insignificant.

So when you compare this impedance at 50 Hz with the 100-ohm R1 resistor, the 100 ohm resistor predominates and almost all of the voltage drop is across R1.   I believe (but I am not sure, would have to be verified) that if you put the load resistor across only one of the bocking coils (switch to conventional step-up transformer) then you would start to see H1 starting to "grab some voltage drop of it's own" as power starts to flow from the primary to the secondary.

So H1's voltage drop is very tiny.  And embedded in the H1 voltage drop is a tiny tiny voltage drop associated with the load.   If the bucking coils were perfectly matched, the "slice" of the voltage drop across H1 would become zero.

If I was on the bench I would run the setup with only one probe channel across H1 directly.   This would minimally disturb the setup and I would want to satisfy my curiosity by looking at the waveform and changing the load or disconnecting the load, changing the frequency, etc.  The assumption is that at 50 Hz you will only see a very low voltage AC waveform across H1

This all illustrates how a "bucking coils transformer" works in the real world, and ignoring all the mumbo-jumbo talk it is just a severely crippled transformer.  Instead of being a 1:3 step-up transformer, in reality it's an inefficient (lots of coil windings doing nothing but resistively burning power) step-down transformer, something like 1:0.03.

I will squeeze in one final comment.  I think Conrad mentioned that the power in the load was measured with the probes on the primary side disconnected.  I view this as a mistake because there is already such a small amount of power flowing through the transformer that the probes, even though they are high impedance, still have the capacity to disturb the low power throughput of the device.   So even if you have to use a multimeter on the load resistor, I would do it like that and leave the probes always connected on the primary side.  This gives you a better chance of having a "level playing field" when comparing power-in and power-out.

MileHigh

I tried that one a long time ago, 15 years or more. I even had the motor spinning the magnet assembly on its long axis in one version. This was supposed to influence plant growth, as I recall.

In the example you cite, the xenon flashtube is being flashed by ordinary inductive collapse spikes, nothing more. Xenon is actually highly conductive at low pressures. 

Now, if someone can make the xenon tube flash without it being connected by wires to the coil, just by "beaming the scalar waves" at it ... please let me know right away.

Maybe one could use hall sensors to see if there is a beaming field, or scalar waves?

Mags

I will squeeze in one final comment.  I think Conrad mentioned that the power in the load was measured with the probes on the primary side disconnected.  I view this as a mistake because there is already such a small amount of power flowing through the transformer that the probes, even though they are high impedance, still have the capacity to disturb the low power throughput of the device.   So even if you have to use a multimeter on the load resistor, I would do it like that and leave the probes always connected on the primary side.  This gives you a better chance of having a "level playing field" when comparing power-in and power-out.

But the probe references are connected together at the scope chassis, usually. This will cause a connection between the input and output coils that may complicate matters. I think. The only scopes I have ever used that had isolated probe references were the Fluke 123/199 ScopeMeter series. And of course, active differential voltage probes have both leads isolated but I don't think anyone here is using a diff probe.

Mags:

Might that be because high frequency sound waves from the tweeter are directional, and mid range and bass are not?

(Learned that in my acoustics physics class in college)

Bill

Well the sound shouldnt be always directional other than the front of the speaker box, out towards the open area where the listeners/crowd are. Like if there were a live band playing with no power, just signin and instruments. The audience should not experience lack of high freq because there shouldnt be any directional audio coming from the band. Most all the people in the audience should hear the band fairly equally, no matter where they are in the crowd, other than loudness due to distance.  With speakers, most sound much better if the listener is on axis with the driver. But in general, those ideals are for the purist. One listener. One room. one sweet spot to sit in.  But for casual listening or with crowds, horns disperse the sound nicely.

Mags

But the probe references are connected together at the scope chassis, usually. This will cause a connection between the input and output coils that may complicate matters. I think. The only scopes I have ever used that had isolated probe references were the Fluke 123/199 ScopeMeter series. And of course, active differential voltage probes have both leads isolated but I don't think anyone here is using a diff probe.

I am not sure I follow you because I see scope grounds connected to the function generator ground.  The bucking coil secondary is fully isolated.  So how can you get a connection between the input and output coils?   Note that I suggested to leave the probes in place.  Then use a battery-powered hand-held digital multimeter to measure the RMS voltage across the load resistor.  I was not specific and did not state "battery-powered hand-held digital multimeter" so I apologize if that caused any confusion.

I have a question for you.  I confess I have always been foggy on ground loops.  Is the function generator ground connected to the "third prong" ground or is it connected to the AC neutral line?  Same question for the scope, "third prong" or AC neutral line?   If you look at the OUR thread, Verpies said this to Itsu:

The Owon is still grounded through the mains neutral wire.
If you want to have a truly ungrounded scope then you must use a 1:1 mains isolation transformer.

That kind of "shocked" me.  I thought everything was grounded via the third prong.   It also suggests a nightmare.   What if your house wiring is old and you don't have polarized wall sockets.  You use those "third prong bypass" thingies.  Then one piece of equipment could in theory be grounded to the AC neutral and another piece of equipment be grounded to the AC hot.  Even if you have modern wiring it still would be possible to encounter that situation.  You know how a few electric guitar players have been electrocuted...

My real question, going back to Conrad's setup.  The function generator ground and the scope grounds are tied to one point.  I am going to assume that's a "third prong" tie point.   So you have the scope with it's own power cable snaking a ground wire to the electrical socket ground.  And you have the function generator with it's own power cable snaking a ground to another electrical socket.  Doesn't that set up a ground loop right there?  Can't that generate hum?

I have a related question, like I said I am foggy on this.  Inside the scope and the function generator, is there a tie point that connects the AC neutral to the third-prong ground?  I am so bloody confused with this stuff.

MileHigh