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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 2585724 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #450 on: January 28, 2015, 08:38:54 AM »
A second posting on Itsu's YouTube channel:

Itsu, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion:  You can use the Vrms across the resistive load to derive the output power.  You can use your current probe on the input and the voltage on the input to derive the input power with the RMS values.  You can see that at lower frequencies you have no real phase issues so getting real time power out vs. power in should be trivial.  So displaying those three channels would give you "live" power out and power in.

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« Reply #450 on: January 28, 2015, 08:38:54 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #451 on: January 28, 2015, 09:01:59 AM »
John:

Thank you for that link.  It all made sense and was a kind of mini refresher course for me.  The stuff about the gap energy was interesting and it never occurred to me.

However, like is often the case, there is still a huge problem:  If you are going to use an air gap then you need to explain your valid reason for doing it.  You need to back up your reason with measurements and numbers.  When is the last time you saw a free energy researcher determine what the saturation level was in his core for his chosen winding configuration and expected current and power levels and then make an intelligent design decision to add a gap of a certain thickness?  For me the answer is never and I am willing to bet for you the answer is never.

The main reason for the gap is to keep the saturating of the core at bay so that you don't run the risk of getting a huge current surge and meltdown based on your expected power throughput.  How many free energy researchers actually know that?

So my take on this is that people will but a gap in "because they can do it" without making any true design decisions.  They are just doing it by rote because they think they should be doing it.

That is simply no good.  It's just mindless paint-by-numbers copying from somebody else or mindless execution and they don't even know why.  In the real world we call that BS.

I know that these are sobering comments.  For this "bucking coils" project, I seriously doubt that anybody can intelligently articulate why they are "playing with the gap."  Playing with the gap certainly has nothing whatsoever to to with accessing any alleged extra power to achieve COP > 1.  Anybody is welcome to prove me wrong on this.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #452 on: January 28, 2015, 09:36:20 AM »
Quote from Milesly,

"I want to start a new crowd funding campaign:  Potty-mouth and ratchet boy filtering magic screen protector.  You know those privacy protectors you can put on your laptop screen?  Well this one would be similar to that.  We are using nanotech bots and neural networking technology.  There is a regular grid of little tiny tiny bots with cameras embedded in the screen protector.  Each one is like a tiny speck of pepper.  Each bot reads a small amount of what is on the screen and the neural network backbone works to decode and read what's on the screen and filter out the potty-mouth and ratchet boy prose in real time.  The neural network controls the LCD shuttering built into the screen protector.  I am looking for a name for it.  One candidate is "TrashStop."  Note that it rhymes with "trash talk."  Another candidate name is "CussOff!" Almost rhymes with....  If you contribute $100 you get a roll of toilet paper sent to you".

Take the first three cases and plug the chronic case of diarrhea from your mouth.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #452 on: January 28, 2015, 09:36:20 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #453 on: January 28, 2015, 09:45:43 AM »
@TinselKoala,

Jerry Bayles has two block magnets magnetized through their thickness placed fields opposite to one another at the ends of a rotor strut pivoting on a central axle. How do you explain the frenzied twirling at the same 7.83 frequency of his spinning Chiral disks as Marco's toroid speaker magnets at the same orbo attraction neutralizing pulse frequency with the vast differences in magnet configuration?


It is a mechanical resonance caused by the geometry. Change the mass of the magnets or the length of the strut and watch the resonance occur at a different frequency. Watch the video and note that the magnets engage in "frenzied twirling" at many different readings of the... what?

Also, for the second time, where in the video is an actual measurement of frequency to hundredths of a Hz precision?

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Magnetic standing wave around two variable speed disk magnets resonates with two small 'balance' magnets at the Schumann frequency (7.834 Hz) on the right side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcVg_K3U-uk

Neither Jerrry nor Marco increase input to achieve the increased magnet reaction. The action's a cosequence of the frequency. The "bucking coils" behave the same way. You guys can fail at your attempts as you so often choose to do, but eveyone's already hip to your stinking "Gansdorf Sting".

Keep it up, your ignorance is slightly amusing. You don't even seem to know what a "standing wave" actually is. The action is a consequence of "the frequency" and the mechanical geometry of the parts. It has _nothing_ to do with Schumann resonances. Change the geometry and you will see the resonant frequency change as well.


Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #454 on: January 28, 2015, 09:51:04 AM »
Here is your "fetish" explained :)  :http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/gap/

Read the link, and weep, because....

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There's no free lunch :-(

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« Reply #454 on: January 28, 2015, 09:51:04 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #455 on: January 28, 2015, 10:00:23 AM »


It is a mechanical resonance caused by the geometry. Change the mass of the magnets or the length of the strut and watch the resonance occur at a different frequency. Watch the video and note that the magnets engage in "frenzied twirling" at many different readings of the... what?

Also, for the second time, where in the video is an actual measurement of frequency to hundredths of a Hz precision?

Keep it up, your ignorance is slightly amusing. You don't even seem to know what a "standing wave" actually is. The action is a consequence of "the frequency" and the mechanical geometry of the parts. It has _nothing_ to do with Schumann resonances. Change the geometry and you will see the resonant frequency change as well.

@TinselKoala,

You've got a lot of nerve calling me ignorant when you're just shooting it out your ass.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #456 on: January 28, 2015, 10:01:47 AM »
Quote from Milesly,

"I want to start a new crowd funding campaign:  Potty-mouth and ratchet boy filtering magic screen protector.  You know those privacy protectors you can put on your laptop screen?  Well this one would be similar to that.  We are using nanotech bots and neural networking technology.  There is a regular grid of little tiny tiny bots with cameras embedded in the screen protector.  Each one is like a tiny speck of pepper.  Each bot reads a small amount of what is on the screen and the neural network backbone works to decode and read what's on the screen and filter out the potty-mouth and ratchet boy prose in real time.  The neural network controls the LCD shuttering built into the screen protector.  I am looking for a name for it.  One candidate is "TrashStop."  Note that it rhymes with "trash talk."  Another candidate name is "CussOff!" Almost rhymes with....  If you contribute $100 you get a roll of toilet paper sent to you".

Take the first three cases and plug the chronic case of diarrhea from your mouth.

I am testing my prototype so I can't really see what you are writing.

As a public service I am going to link to this informational clip that shows one of the markets served for CussOff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RpCb6GGKf0

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #456 on: January 28, 2015, 10:01:47 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #457 on: January 28, 2015, 10:08:34 AM »
 Aim for around 25 - 40 Hz

What's Itzu have to say toward the end of his second video?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #458 on: January 28, 2015, 10:33:28 AM »
@TinselKoala,

You've got a lot of nerve calling me ignorant when you're just shooting it out your ass.

You prove your ignorance with just about every comment you make, and when you cannot refute me, you resort to your usual 8-year-old's retort: the potty mouth insult. Don't you think it's time you grew up?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #458 on: January 28, 2015, 10:33:28 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #459 on: January 28, 2015, 02:02:53 PM »
Koala, you start to piss me off. Take the F diode, put the wire as an anntena on one end, put the ground on the other end and put small speaker across the diode. And you will get your F speaker to work - F free work. F free lunch.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #460 on: January 28, 2015, 02:13:23 PM »
somebody say antennae ?
this man is convinced we can harvest much more from the spin fields inside ferrite

very very simple


http://bovan.net/gmweb2/The%20FS%20Loop.htm

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #460 on: January 28, 2015, 02:13:23 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #461 on: January 28, 2015, 03:12:07 PM »
somebody say antennae ?
this man is convinced we can harvest much more from the spin fields inside ferrite

very very simple


http://bovan.net/gmweb2/The%20FS%20Loop.htm

Hi Ramset.  Did anybody actually experimented with that design?  A bit too long for quick reading :) Can you just describe it in two sentences what's happening in the cores and what it benefits from? it looks interesting anyway. ;)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #462 on: January 28, 2015, 03:20:09 PM »
John
any words I type here will be trounced upon by the google search unbenchful..{NOT referring to Tinsel ]
its a short read and well worth the look.[I just received this a few days ago]


http://bovan.net/gmweb2/The%20FS%20Loop.htm
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                    The FS Loop Antenna;
              proof of concept for spin-fields
              within Ferrite Sleeve inductors.
                 by Graham Maynard.        14th February 2011.

I am investigating Maynard's work with Ferrites myself and seeking out others who have played with his ridiculously simple high gain concept.


besides some are playing with Ferrites  8)


thx
Chet

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #463 on: January 28, 2015, 03:40:50 PM »
Hi Ramset. I'll take a look at it later.  I absolutely agree there is some potential in the ferrite rods. Especially ferromagnetic resonance - Akula is one who plays with this domain.  Also magnetic delay can be handful for our devices.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #464 on: January 28, 2015, 04:48:57 PM »
It appears the discussion forums here really could use some sort of moderation to help keep discussions more constructive.
There is a world of difference between constructive criticism/suggestions, which usually can be expressed in just
a few posts, as compared to deliberate attempts to insult or otherwise be rude or disruptive, etc., in order to try to derail
a discussion. Constantly repeating the same sort of thing over an over in multiple posts is also not constructive.
Much of the posts that have been made in this thread really just serve to derail the discussion here. Constructive criticism can
always be made respectfully, if a person just makes a little effort and employs a little bit of self control.
 
If someone doesn't want to listen to another person's suggestions/constructive criticisms, then so be it. A point can
be made in a post or two, and if a person is not going to consider your suggestions, then simply move on. The point has already
been made. No need to keep repeating it over and over again. ;) Too often here, criticisms made are really just veiled or outright insults.
That, of course,  is not a constructive way at all to carry on a discussion.


John.k1, Ramset:  Thanks for posting those links. It looks really interesting. I will read through it later
when I get the chance.

All the best...



 

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