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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 1959059 times)

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2015, 09:10:47 PM »
Hi Em!
Could you give me your comment about these idea...?
Thank you!

@Wistiti,

Nice! nicely drawn, well thought out and I see you have done your homework! Already done some work in this field by the looks!

Yes perfect! Don't put the small gap in there, just play with coil spacing from each other. Don't break your core, you don't need to for this setup!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2015, 09:10:47 PM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #91 on: January 21, 2015, 09:15:34 PM »
Billiam offers 2 years warranty for his products, I think this tech is real.
I asked for a demonstration of the 'never needs to be charged' Jetson scooter in the Netherlands, and I need one for myself.

http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html

@Alan and All,

It is real, I have nearly passed this tech over a few times, back when I first started. I ended coming back to it simply because it shows so many effects that are not in conventional Science!

Reduced or no Lenz from input to output is the biggest reason.

Like I said: "For every one device that works, expect 10 devices that don’t. But, don’t give up, keep trying."

For people starting with all this information, it really should be easy! Like I said you do have to play with it a bit to see what it likes and doesn't like!

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Offline PIH123

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2015, 09:59:52 PM »
Hi EMJunkie

Sorry, this may seem like more nitpicking and I know it can get tedious when someone asks what at first seem like an irrelevant question,
but I think this one needs to be addressed if any measurements are to be considered.

Could you please explain the scope display in your video at 4:01 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

The scope is a PDS7102T so according to the user manual
(http://www.ageta.hu/pdf/PDS7102T%20USER%20MANUAL.pdf page 14 item 15.)

The icon "~" indicates the AC coupling

If the channels were showing DC coupling, then we would see "-", but we don't.

And according to http://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy4802L/f05/lectures/oscilloscope.pdf pages 5 ad 6,
AC coupling is used to Remove all DC information and also To observe small AC on top of large DC

So What is the purpose of this display mode in this particular test ?
and hence, Where are you showing the DC components of the channels ?


I apologize in advance if I have missed that.

Many Thanks

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2015, 09:59:52 PM »
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Offline hanon

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #93 on: January 21, 2015, 10:03:33 PM »

Don't put the small gap in there, just play with coil spacing from each other. Don't break your core, you don't need to for this setup!


Chris, You were talking about using plastic spacers between cores and now it seems that just adjusting the coil spacing (distance) is fine to get the effect. Please define what you call "loose coupling". What is really required to replicate this device? My impression is as there is still information that you have not defined.

As a suggestion if you want to avoid going into hard discussion you should avoid agressive sentences stating that you measures are not here to be debated. Do not feed these discussions.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2015, 10:32:12 PM »
Hi EMJunkie

Sorry, this may seem like more nitpicking and I know it can get tedious when someone asks what at first seem like an irrelevant question,
but I think this one needs to be addressed if any measurements are to be considered.

Could you please explain the scope display in your video at 4:01 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

The scope is a PDS7102T so according to the user manual
(http://www.ageta.hu/pdf/PDS7102T%20USER%20MANUAL.pdf page 14 item 15.)

The icon "~" indicates the AC coupling

If the channels were showing DC coupling, then we would see "-", but we don't.

And according to http://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy4802L/f05/lectures/oscilloscope.pdf pages 5 ad 6,
AC coupling is used to Remove all DC information and also To observe small AC on top of large DC

So What is the purpose of this display mode in this particular test ?
and hence, Where are you showing the DC components of the channels ?


I apologize in advance if I have missed that.

Many Thanks

@PIH123

Scope was AC Coupled @10 per div. The Output is AC on this device, not DC. Input is chopped DC, Bi-Polar via a H-Bridge, which is also considered to be AC, just a AC Square wave.

Kind Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2015, 10:32:12 PM »
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #95 on: January 21, 2015, 10:34:22 PM »
Chris, You were talking about using plastic spacers between cores and now it seems that just adjusting the coil spacing (distance) is fine to get the effect. Please define what you call "loose coupling". What is really required to replicate this device? My impression is as there is still information that you have not defined.

As a suggestion if you want to avoid going into hard discussion you should avoid agressive sentences stating that you measures are not here to be debated. Do not feed these discussions.

Regards

Hi Hanon,

Plastic Spacers ARE needed in the second configuration that I have shown. Not the first.

If I may suggest a re-read of the posts I have posted. I have covered this already! This is also covered in the pdf!

Kind Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2015, 10:42:59 PM »
@PIH123

Scope was AC Coupled @10 per div. The Output is AC on this device, not DC. Input is chopped DC, Bi-Polar via a H-Bridge, which is also considered to be AC, just a AC Square wave.

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Thanks, that info helps.

So for anyone testing this, apparently, you should see no difference whether your scope is AC or DC coupled.

In which case, best testing practice would say make sure it is DC coupled on both channels so you won't miss anything unexpected.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2015, 10:42:59 PM »
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #97 on: January 21, 2015, 10:52:54 PM »
Hi PIH123,

So for anyone testing this, apparently, you should see no difference whether your scope is AC or DC coupled.

No - This is not what I said! Please Re-Read the post.

It depends on the setup. If the Output is AC then AC is needed on the scope. Vice Versa...

In which case, best testing practice would say make sure it is DC coupled on both channels so you won't miss anything unexpected.

No, again I disagree!

"In alternating current (AC), the flow of electric charge periodically reverses direction." - A H-Bridge can Chop the DC and the flow of electric charge periodically reverses direction.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_current

This is just common-sense, so please don't try to confuse others here!

Kind Regards

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Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2015, 10:56:12 PM »
Hi folks, Hi emjunkie, well just fired it up and i am using an led bulb to see if it can power things, it lights the led bulb well.
When i use a wire to short the partnered secondary coils, the amp draw lowers from 360 milliamps while powering led bulb down to 260 milliamps using 3.7 volt input.
My other setup did not do this when a dead short was applied across partnered coils.
So does this sound like the right behavior so far, emjunkie.
Here is a pic of it.
peace love light

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2015, 10:56:12 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2015, 11:10:02 PM »
@ALL,

There is MORE than enough information, that I have provided, to make this work. For those that want to do it, I suggest to go ahead and do it. I don't have the time or the want to put up with people that are just time wasters! They could have done ten experiments by the time they write rubbish and post it publicly to disrupt and distract. We got 5 Pages in before they came!

Again, I point those interested to the First Post:

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Data: http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Guidelines%20to%20Bucking%20Coils.pdf

Video 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJsVSMQqCOM

Video 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

Video 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSadMqEnO7I

Video 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-V1z2TdQJA

Also Required Study: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGWO_x8tpM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9m86joRSMg


For those that want to disrupt and distract, write rubbish on a public thread, ALL with no proof, no experiments to back them up, and not real information to dispute other wise, go ahead!

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Offline alan

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2015, 11:12:07 PM »
Hi Hanon,

Plastic Spacers ARE needed in the second configuration that I have shown. Not the first.

If I may suggest a re-read of the posts I have posted. I have covered this already! This is also covered in the pdf!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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I have difficulty understanding this picture; shouldn't the thumbs point in the opposite direction of the field of the primary (which isn't seen)?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2015, 11:12:07 PM »
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Offline jbignes5

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2015, 11:12:57 PM »

 Again this is nothing new.


 http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1891-05-20.htm


 Figure 113 is the method you are talking about.


 The text I believe has been altered to deter the meaning of this setup.


 "The above described arrangements refer only to the use of commercial coils as ordinarily constructed.  If it is desired to construct a coil for the express purpose of performing with it such experiments as I have described, or, generally, rendering it capable of withstanding the greatest possible difference of potential, then a construction as indicated in Fig. 17 / 113 will be found of advantage.  The coil in this case is formed of two independent parts which are wound oppositely, the connection between both being made near the primary.  The potential in the middle being zero, there is not much tendency to jump to the primary and not much insulation is required.  In some cases the middle point may, however, be connected to the primary or to the ground.  In such a coil the places of greatest difference of potential are far apart and the coil is capable of withstanding an enormous strain.  The two parts may be movable so as to allow a slight adjustment of the capacity effect."

 Another reference to this design is also a Tesla creation:

 http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm

 Figure 3 is also this design slightly changed for very high voltage use.

 If you read the whole document you will see it is mostly about very high frequencies and very high voltages. Their separation and use after the separation. Figure 17 shows a one terminal Motor and how to use it with this type of system of very high frequency oscillations which was proven by Kapanadze in his video's as well.  Shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2015, 11:13:07 PM »
Hi PIH123,

No - This is not what I said! Please Re-Read the post.

It depends on the setup. If the Output is AC then AC is needed on the scope. Vice Versa...

No, again I disagree!

"In alternating current (AC), the flow of electric charge periodically reverses direction." - A H-Bridge can Chop the DC and the flow of electric charge periodically reverses direction.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_current

This is just common-sense, so please don't try to confuse others here!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

(emphasis mine)

And there you have it. EMJunkie does not understand AC vs DC coupled scope channels or what they are used for.

http://www.ni.com/white-paper/14753/en/
http://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy4802L/f05/lectures/oscilloscope.pdf
And many many more.

When you select "AC coupled" on your oscilloscope, the scope puts a _capacitor_ in series with the scope probe. This _removes_ any DC or very slow varying voltage from the displayed signal. This means, in turn, that you can have any amount of DC power in the measured signal and you will not see it on the scope's display.  It is almost _never_ appropriate to use AC-coupled scope channels for power measurements. In fact, even on "AC" signals, the use of AC-coupling moves the _average_ of the voltage signal down or up to the "zero" volts baseline. You can imagine the havoc this wreaks with any attempted power measurements.

The usual use of AC coupling is to remove large DC offsets so that small "ripples" riding on top of the DC may be read at higher resolution. It is NOT "for measuring AC" as EMJunkie seems to believe.

Please learn how to use your test equipment properly, so that people don't laugh at you when you go around claiming OU from ordinary configurations of parts.




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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2015, 11:14:36 PM »
Hi folks, Hi emjunkie, well just fired it up and i am using an led bulb to see if it can power things, it lights the led bulb well.
When i use a wire to short the partnered secondary coils, the amp draw lowers from 360 milliamps while powering led bulb down to 260 milliamps using 3.7 volt input.
My other setup did not do this when a dead short was applied across partnered coils.
So does this sound like the right behavior so far, emjunkie.
Here is a pic of it.
peace love light

@SkyWatcher123,

Yes Sir! Very nice! Well Done!

For the others here, how long did it take you?

How much did it Cost you?

Are you happy there are already effect there that are worth perusing?

Try different Loads, increasing it slowly! Try to keep all Load's Resistive, Inductances can throw the measurements out! Very Nice!  ;)

Very Nice, Well Done!

Kind Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #104 on: January 21, 2015, 11:18:59 PM »
(emphasis mine)

And there you have it. EMJunkie does not understand AC vs DC coupled scope channels or what they are used for.

http://www.ni.com/white-paper/14753/en/
http://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy4802L/f05/lectures/oscilloscope.pdf
And many many more.

When you select "AC coupled" on your oscilloscope, the scope puts a _capacitor_ in series with the scope probe. This _removes_ any DC or very slow varying voltage from the displayed signal. This means, in turn, that you can have any amount of DC power in the measured signal and you will not see it on the scope's display.  It is almost _never_ appropriate to use AC-coupled scope channels for power measurements. In fact, even on "AC" signals, the use of AC-coupling moves the _average_ of the voltage signal down or up to the "zero" volts baseline. You can imagine the havoc this wreaks with any attempted power measurements.

The usual use of AC coupling is to remove large DC offsets so that small "ripples" riding on top of the DC may be read at higher resolution. It is NOT "for measuring AC" as EMJunkie seems to believe.

Please learn how to use your test equipment properly, so that people don't laugh at you when you go around claiming OU from ordinary configurations of parts.

@TinselKoala

The output on these devices are AC!

Everyone knows this capacitor is just a decoupling cap! Every Single Crow has its own Capacitance! Regardless of this Cap! I have never heard of such a silly provoking argument in my life!

Go away and distract others that worship your holiness  ::) I don't want your idioms here!

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