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Offline partzman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8895 on: June 05, 2020, 03:16:44 AM »
Chris,

Sounds good to me!  However, the Prometheus thing needs to be resolved!

I looked at the 75 occurrences on your forum when searching for "Prometheus" and I really didn't see anything relating to my technology either old or new!  I did however find a little bit of info on him from the several posts below-

Prometheus posted this 25 December 2018
Well, I'm all alone for Christmas. My wife and kids traveled to Taiwan to visit family, but I had to stay and work, so I'm totally playing the bachelor right now... the dishes are piled high in the kitchen sink and I have no intention of washing them until the very last minute. 
With remembrances of 2018, a pretty good year, I look forward to 2019 and all that I'll learn during it.


Prometheus posted this 27 December 2018
I've done a lot of things in my life... running nuke plants on fast-attack subs; running a fuel oil/natural gas fired electrical generation station; destroying nerve agent, mustard gas and live munitions for the Department of the Army Inspector General; PC repair and network installation/troubleshooting; I wired a few houses for whole-house entertainment systems / video intercoms / network, etc.; programming (to include programming custom stock trading algorithms); and mechanical maintenance.
I like what I do now... it's just physically demanding enough to keep me in shape, doesn't require a lot of mental horsepower (which I'd prefer to use for research), is low-stress, pays pretty well, has great benefits and retirement package, etc.


I've never had any family in Taiwan and in my life I was a high school dropout that worked on hotrods.  Later, I self educated myself and owned several successful electronics manufacturing companies that manufactured amplifiers for the music industry, computer peripherals, and highly efficient electronic ballasts for fluorescent lighting and hold several patents in these areas including 3D molded circuit board technology.  I've worked on FE and OU devices for nearly 30 years.

I've never run a nuke plant, etc!

Oh and BTW, the guy on JLNs website that built and tested the successful OU MEG with MOVs, that's me.

Pm

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8895 on: June 05, 2020, 03:16:44 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8896 on: June 05, 2020, 03:53:34 AM »

Oh and BTW, the guy on JLNs website that built and tested the successful OU MEG with MOVs, that's me.

Pm




... Whats this got to do with the price of cheese at the Markets? I don't get it, am I missing something, where does this come in?

I see on the JLN Website, a small link:  Good advices for the MEG builders : The MEG Notes by Jon Flickinger

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--- In jlnlabs@y..., Jon Flickinger <jonfli@i...> wrote:
To All,

This information is to all those presently involved in or thinking about an attempted MEG replication. I'm expressing opinions that I've come to from the results I've obtained after spending many lab hours with many variations in topology and circuitry. In no way am I de-potentializing the MEG (pun intended) but simply trying to share what I've learned about the device for the good of
the whole!

IMHO, it is a waste of time to attempt power measurements of the MEG standard load resistors (that is, any linear resistive device) if one expects to see any excess energy. The output loads must be resistive (non-reactive) and nonlinear. The resistance must decrease with increasing voltage and the power must be calculated from the output voltage and current. Those of you powering
up your MEG for the first time with pure resistive loads, will find the waveforms do not match Bearden's nor JLN's! Only with nonlinear loads and a properly "tuned" MEG will you see the near half sine current waveform in your primary coils.

With nonlinear loads and a properly setup MEG, you will measure COP's >1 with the proper measurement tools and techniques. In general, the MEG seems to like voltage build up in the secondary windings before supplying current to the load!

If so, this would seem to align with Tom Bearden's public disclose of this device! The problem now lies in the utilization of this excess power to do some useful work. It would appear to me that the MEG can be run with lower secondary voltages and properly designed loads and still yield COP's >1. In fact, this should be a focal point for anyone doing this project.

Suggestions-

1) A common nonlinear load device to try would be various voltage rated MOV's or transient absorbers.
I used Panasonic ZNR10K621U's for COP's ranging from 1.75 to 5 depending on coil turns and supply voltage. Ask JLN how he "conditioned" his carbon load resistor as I don't know. ( JLN Answer, see at : http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/negres.htm )

2) Use a higher spec'd device for Vds than the BUZ11. With only a 50 v rating for Vds, this device avalanches on the primary turn off flyback phase and results in abnormal heating. Use a device with a Vds >200 volts and an Id >4 amps.

3) The power supply can also be a constant current source and will actually provide some measure of safety if disaster strikes in the switching circuitry!

4) I can't stress strongly enough the safety issues regarding the high output voltages one will encounter on the secondaries! USE CAUTION! Be sure your measurement devices connected to any portion of the secondaries are capable of withstanding the voltages you will encounter.

5) NEVER POWER UP A MEG WITHOUT LOADS CONNECTED AS THE OPEN CIRCUIT VOLTAGES
CAN BE LETHAL AND DESTRUCTIVE!


I can now understand why the MEG presents certain problems in achieving a self-running state and it may not be necessary as Tom Bearden has recently tried to point out!

If anyone should experience valid COP's >1 with standard linear loads, please speak out!

Regards,

Jon Flickinger
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I still don't get it, sorry, missed that one!


Didn't you work with Smudge and Graham Gunderson at Chava Energy also? Was it Chava back then? Or was it MPI?

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8897 on: June 05, 2020, 12:26:41 PM »
And you wonder why no one is jumping on your bandwagon.  DUH

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8897 on: June 05, 2020, 12:26:41 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8898 on: June 05, 2020, 04:03:50 PM »
We open a bottle of clear potable water,slowly or fast ! The water still behaves "calm" !
We open a bottle of CO2-enriched table water,slowly: controlled or fast : uncontrolled ,the water + gas spreads out ,more/less !

This is with electron-gas/plasma similar,cold/hot start as next alternative,with/-out permant magnet field influence another possibility !

In our life are many electromagnetic world analog experiment possibilities,sometimes somebody disrespect his own life experiences !
         
       
Hertz : oscillations,vibrations,(pro)pulsing,swings,windings,swirl,vortex,cycles,tornado
If not visible trying it acoustical !



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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8899 on: June 05, 2020, 04:39:26 PM »


... Whats this got to do with the price of cheese at the Markets? I don't get it, am I missing something, where does this come in?

I see on the JLN Website, a small link:  Good advices for the MEG builders : The MEG Notes by Jon Flickinger


I still don't get it, sorry, missed that one!


Didn't you work with Smudge and Graham Gunderson at Chava Energy also? Was it Chava back then? Or was it MPI?

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

Chris,

Well let's see, I thought you might be interested in letting your followers know that the "delayed conduction" you speak of on your forum has precedence?   An MOV load provides this exact type of delayed conduction on the secondary of a MEG like device.  There is also series resonance involved due to the capacitance of the MOV until the voltage level reaches the conduction level of the MOV.

I see no apology from you for falsely accusing me of registering on your forum as "Prometheus" and in return calling me a hypocrite, so this is my last response to you.

Pm

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8900 on: June 05, 2020, 04:51:30 PM »
message to Syncro above and any person wishing to help acquire equipment for Nelson Rocha builders group Please do send a bit...the ball is starting to Roll ,...please PM Nelson, he is only accepting equipment funding.
and preparing an open source presentation which needs equipment ..
EDIT here is link already posted on this forum to Nelson


https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=QdYyWsnwpDy10X0O_pwqo8I6XXeUHx39fnK6TSp9YcnkKrok8Fd3vvmYfgdGkly8ug-WLW&country.x=PT&locale.x=PT
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8901 on: June 05, 2020, 10:24:03 PM »
Chris,

Well let's see, I thought you might be interested in letting your followers know that the "delayed conduction" you speak of on your forum has precedence?   An MOV load provides this exact type of delayed conduction on the secondary of a MEG like device.  There is also series resonance involved due to the capacitance of the MOV until the voltage level reaches the conduction level of the MOV.

I see no apology from you for falsely accusing me of registering on your forum as "Prometheus" and in return calling me a hypocrite, so this is my last response to you.

Pm



One has to ask at this point, after reading this message, specifically the in depth knowledge about "Delayed Conduction" that has been obtained, and especially after reading the prior post, specifically this:




Have I ever looked at your forum?  Yes I have on occasion but honestly it is for no more than a minute or two as I find nothing of real interest IMO.




I have said before, Question everything! There is always more to it than whats on the surface!



Experience give you a perspective that is unbounded, and this is certainly an experience! Jon has also avoided completely the question posed also, which is neither here nor there...



I see no apology from you for falsely accusing me of registering on your forum as "Prometheus" and in return calling me a hypocrite, so this is my last response to you.




I am sorry, what was this here?



P.S: If the account: "Prometheus" is truly not yours then I am sorry for this assumption. I do have reason to believe this was you, as some work posted is identical to your work currently.




Have we learned anything from these recent exchanges? I certainly have, a lot of things I did not know before.





Now, I see, we are best to have our separate paths. You do your thing, I will do mine.





Partzman, please refrain from posting on this and other threads that I have created, again.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8902 on: June 05, 2020, 11:22:19 PM »
And you wonder why no one is jumping on your bandwagon.  DUH



Citfta, Thank You for your 2 cents. Hmm, thats close to Antifa isn't it.

When you sit on the fence to long, you run a real risk of catching your nadds, and tearing something out. You of all people should know this!

Only one to go Citfta, perhaps you want to preserve that one!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times, don't get an infection
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8903 on: June 06, 2020, 07:37:36 AM »
message to Syncro above and any person wishing to help acquire equipment for Nelson Rocha builders group Please do send a bit...the ball is starting to Roll ,...please PM Nelson, he is only accepting equipment funding.
and preparing an open source presentation which needs equipment ..
EDIT here is link already posted on this forum to Nelson


https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=QdYyWsnwpDy10X0O_pwqo8I6XXeUHx39fnK6TSp9YcnkKrok8Fd3vvmYfgdGkly8ug-WLW&country.x=PT&locale.x=PT


If anyone on this board deserves funding, it is Nelson, so I ask, if you can afford to donate, please help nelson out. He is a genuine Human Being, here to help others, not asking for anything in return.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8903 on: June 06, 2020, 07:37:36 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8904 on: June 08, 2020, 11:29:06 PM »




When you know, and understand, what Energy is, you have the ability to manipulate it, make it move, thus the term Kinetic Energy that the great Nikola Tesla used!

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Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago go by instinct or reason. It has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who drives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians, and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static, our hopes are in vain; if kinetic - and this we know it is for certain - then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.

Ref: Experiments With Alternate Currents Of High Potential And High Frequency (February 1892).




Do you know what the Wheel-Work of Nature is? I do! So many here are so far behind! You have decades of catch up to do!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8905 on: June 11, 2020, 04:46:09 PM »
if the transformer is powered by a powerful source and looks like this.
tuning a smaller winding into resonance using a suitable capacitor does not increase the glow of the bulb.

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« Reply #8906 on: June 11, 2020, 10:35:01 PM »
if the transformer is powered by a powerful source and looks like this.
tuning a smaller winding into resonance using a suitable capacitor does not increase the glow of the bulb.


I bet Tarriel Kapanadze would be very proud of your effort! You show your intelligence "kolbacict", and what side you are on, the wrong side! Idiots just can not be helped!

My Members will have a great laugh at your effort and approach, under the circumstances, e.g: Given the Circuits and Scope shops and not followed basic layout!

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« Reply #8907 on: June 11, 2020, 11:52:24 PM »



I cant help but ponder, the eager actions to Judge others, especially here on this forum, when these very people judging, have zero experience themselves! Most have poor to no Electronics Skills! 99.9% of you having Zero EM Skills!

Very simply, these people are in no way at all, qualified to judge! These people have no idea whatsoever!

Really it does make a joke out of the whole thing and it devalues Stefan's Forum! I wonder why Stefan is not more vigilant on this type of behaviour? He has no time, so these people get away with bad behaviour!

Out of respect for Stefan, these people should refrain! But they don't!

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free energy  will change the world - free energy will stop all environmental pollution

Free energy will help to heal the planet earth.
In our disccusion forum www.overunity.com we talk about all kinds of free energy and alternative
and renewable energy systems.
The world will soon be very green without any pollution and any chemical fuel polutants
with this new  technolgy.
What Tesla has begun in the 19th and 20th century we will now bring to
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With permanent magnet motors and Solid State magnet free energy convertes into the future.

free energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world to power cars, ships and trains and
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.

So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.




The truth is, these people, well known in the community, having various names or designation's, are so easy to spot! These people give the whole forum a bad name! Across the Internet!

I moderate these people out of my forum, I guess that why My Forum is so successful! Why we have had so much success, putting these people, with designated titles, to shame.

Like I have said, 25% of you here have a hope, the rest fit into the designated titles I mentioned. I am here for those of you, the 25%, but don't the rest make themselves known!

Really, not much has changed since last time i was here, only a few names.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #8908 on: June 12, 2020, 12:56:56 AM »
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« Reply #8909 on: June 12, 2020, 01:07:06 AM »


I cant help but ponder, the eager actions to Judge others, especially here on this forum, when these very people judging, have zero experience themselves! Most have poor to no Electronics Skills! 99.9% of you having Zero EM Skills!

Very simply, these people are in no way at all, qualified to judge! These people have no idea whatsoever!

Really it does make a joke out of the whole thing and it devalues Stefan's Forum! I wonder why Stefan is not more vigilant on this type of behaviour? He has no time, so these people get away with bad behaviour!

Out of respect for Stefan, these people should refrain! But they don't!

Stefan's Mission Statement:


The truth is, these people, well known in the community, having various names or designation's, are so easy to spot! These people give the whole forum a bad name! Across the Internet!

I moderate these people out of my forum, I guess that why My Forum is so successful! Why we have had so much success, putting these people, with designated titles, to shame.

Like I have said, 25% of you here have a hope, the rest fit into the designated titles I mentioned. I am here for those of you, the 25%, but don't the rest make themselves known!

Really, not much has changed since last time i was here, only a few names.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes
Chris if you have all the answers then publish them here and give Stefan what he wants
end of problem, but all you want to do is be little every one so is it the fact that none of your stuff works
if it does work as you say then prove it here put your money where your big agresive ego mouth is!

I wish you well Chris
happy days.

 

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