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Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7965 on: December 02, 2018, 05:41:14 PM »
Hi forest, it's already implemented for most of those, though they charge us for it.

They can't play paper gods, without this artificial scarcity system in place.

One example of engineered fake scarcity, is rent or paying to just exist on a piece of land or under a roof.

Unless one is retarded or completely brainwashed or lulled to sleep by mind control since birth, it shoud be obvious, there is no scarcity of land and there is no reason on creators green earth that anyone should have to pay another being to stand or sit on it.

Charging people just to be on a piece of earth is a fake control model, and yes, when you do not pay them, they send their minions (thugs) out to use force and violence to remove you. so they are actively enforcing their fake scarcity-control system.
Everything else is following the same model strategy, whether it is excess energy, food, medicine, etc., etc., etc.
We cannot be free as a collective humanity and be asleep to these strategies and tactics used against us, mainly, that we need to pay to exist in a nutshell. but many still cling to that brainwashing, out of fear i guess.
peace love light ;) :)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7965 on: December 02, 2018, 05:41:14 PM »

Offline tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7966 on: December 03, 2018, 12:31:07 AM »
@ramset,

All good books have great content, readers must always be riveted. Unable to put the book down.

This requires detailed attention to detail.

Research is a requirement for good riveting content.

I have read this thread, and plan to read a few more times. I must point out, one success, that no-one could find fault with, is enough to start asking the right questions.

The most important point is, tinmans Rotary Transformer follows the ideas put forth from the start of the thread. The DUT was peer reviewed by all members that were in participation. No fault was found.

The story here implies the Rotary Transformer is an off-shoot of work presented. It appears, other, successful reports have not been presented, only failed results.

One gold nugget is enough to look for more. Wouldn't you agree?

You mean Chris tried to make a solidstate version of my rotary transformer.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7967 on: December 03, 2018, 01:01:00 AM »
@tinman,

Youre still around, great.

Since Chris was banned from this forum and started his own, have you made any progress?

I see youre working on a 'drinking bird' at the moment.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7967 on: December 03, 2018, 01:01:00 AM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7968 on: December 03, 2018, 12:49:31 PM »
either the claimant told some huge Porky's [i think you guys call them]or this is a big Con job .
or maybe the con was on us here at the forum ?

apparently somebody with deep pockets is on the "hook"

anyhoo...some body is making a movie about the con and the con artist has Graham Gunderson and TinMan as evidence his free energy circuit works [apparently no other evidence]//

this may be a con from this other fellow who says he's writing the book [which he promised some one willbe very successful [big payday]

any how
post a circuit that actually makes "free energy " the public will test it and if it works they'll be a celebration here

so far NOTHING posted here was cause for a free energy celebration.
and this may all have nothing to do with the original Claimant ??
such is the internet a place where anonymous persons play games they think are funny.... some would call it fiddling while Rome burns.
//

In a perfect FE world this could be a prelude to a public release of a true FE device [hopeful dreams  :) ]??//
// anyhoo Forest mentioned the Cook device ,some builder discussion here
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1616.msg70410;topicseen#msg70410
I understand a few replication attempts may start soon ,will start a topic then Daniel McFarland Cook//////EDIT TO TINMAN BELOW///all anonymous persons at this time...nobody with a real name yet

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7969 on: December 03, 2018, 02:39:10 PM »
either the claimant told some huge Porky's [i think you guys call them]or this is a big Con job .
or maybe the con was on us here at the forum ?

apparently somebody with deep pockets is on the "hook"

anyhoo...some body is making a movie about the con and the con artist has Graham Gunderson and TinMan as evidence his free energy circuit works [apparently no other evidence]//

this may be a con from this other fellow who says he's writing the book [which he promised some one willbe very successful [big payday]

any how
post a circuit that actually makes "free energy " the public will test it and if it works they'll be a celebration here

so far NOTHING posted here was cause for a free energy celebration.
and this may all have nothing to do with the original Claimant ??
such is the internet a place where anonymous persons play games they think are funny.... some would call it fiddling while Rome burns.

I have been watching a series on stan(much like netflix) called scorpion. It is based around a true story about Walter O’Brien ,who had an IQ of 197. (Einstein only had an IQ of 160)

So,i decided to take an IQ test,and see what my results were--just for shits and giggles.
I took the top rated test here in OZ,and paid the $38.00 to do so.
It was the BMI (brain metrics initiative) IQ test.
Upon completion,you are sent an email that contains your Australian recognised IQ score certificate,and a 17 page report on what each section means,and how you went on each section.

 https://www.test-iq.org/

Has anyone else here taken an approved IQ test ?,and what was your IQ score?.

Anyway,who ever this person is that intends on using anything of mine to prove some !free energy/overunity! device--better think again.

Lets get one thing straight
I never(yes-never) claimed that the RT was an overunity device.
The tests carried out were as seen in the video's,where an !apparent! gain in electrical power was seen and measured. This gain in power is correct,but it dose come at a cost-->i make this very clear-->it DOSE come at a cost.
At this point in time,it is unknown whether that cost is higher or lower than the total electrical and mechanical energy gain. For this to be worked out,there would be a need for test equipment that can calculate continuous mechanical output power,which i simply do not have the money for.--the electrical output power is easily calculated.

So,who ever you are-->do not use my name or RT as any proof that you have an overunity/free energy device.
For me to give you permission,you will need to forward me the plans for your device,which i will then replicate/build. If there is an apparent gain,then (and only then) do you have permission to use my name or RT as proof for your claims.

Chet
Perhaps you should name said person.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7969 on: December 03, 2018, 02:39:10 PM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7970 on: December 03, 2018, 02:53:48 PM »
 author=Mr.Miyagi link=topic=15395.msg527592#msg527592 date=1543701540]


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I am shocked at the content of this thread, its all there, Chris is right, he was right all along. I have read the whole thread, and I cannot believe how this ended.

Are you sure Chris got it all right?
Did you miss the bit where the keen eyes around this forum seen he was using AC coupling on his scope to make power measurements,when he should have been using DC coupling ?.

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I am going to take it upon my self to make sure this does not go wasted. Time, effort, and obviously a talented mind that was devoted to his work.

So where is Chris now?
How many overunity/free energy devices dose he have at this point in time?.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7971 on: December 03, 2018, 03:01:11 PM »


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what ever happened to tinman?

I got board

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Is he still around?

I am.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7971 on: December 03, 2018, 03:01:11 PM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7972 on: December 03, 2018, 03:11:29 PM »
Whats is shared on this thread is world changing, and no one took any notice.

OMG I am stunned.

What was shared on this thread is not world changing--it's trouble.

I would also add that Chet (ramset) is one of the good guys here,and not the enemy you have made him out to be.

Chris left because he made errors,not because anyone drove him out.

If you are to write a book,wouldn't you prefer it to represent the truth?.

You also seem to think this !magnetic diode! is some form of wonderful.
In actual fact,if you read as to how it work's,you will soon discover that it is a very lossy mechanism,due to the !eddy current! braking effect of the rotating u shaped copper ring core the coils must reside in,in order for it to work.
It is more of a magnetic deflector,rather than a magnetic diode.

Never take things at face value.
Take a good look at how things work,and if you cant work it out,there are many here than can help.


Brad

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7973 on: December 03, 2018, 03:17:23 PM »
Very well that somebody recognize the costs from the FE-machine !What will be the price from each produced KWh, cheaper than 25 Eurocents/KWh private household electricity in Germany or cheaper than the international 12 US$cents/KWh electricity on demand price or cheaper than the 6 UScents/KWh in several estates in the U.S.A !?How many conventional/specific/rare material is needed for each KW-potential ?Has the output to be with 50/60 Hertz- frequency (=3000/3600 RPM industrial standart) or higher or variable ?Could it be that the machine/transformer/converter for itself will become cheap but the needed software controlled operator(= time/pulse/frequency program generator) will become the expensive part ?
Has it to be an "in situ"-solution = each household his own "FE-machine" or can it become a social society solution : the FE-machine as part of the conventional comercial network, intermittent.One problem: the Paris-conference and the 2°C-Limitation:
independant if based by fossil or "pseudo"-clean FE-machine energy generation, each machine produces calories and this is measured also in °Celsius or Fahrenheit or Kelvin !Temperature diminuation means dirty/clean energy use/consume diminuation !From my view a good and fair price for a well organized FE-machine marketing begins in the 500 Euro/KW scale.This price scale will become possible by use from aluminium wire instead from more expensive copper(f.e. SIEMENS R&D) later the use from graphene coils (finally superconductor) and from cheaper produced amorph metals(~ Metglas/Mumetal/Permalloy) for the motor/generator or transformer core.Falling capacitor prices and less expensive production technology will bring this 500 Euros/KW down.Price reference: Roy Kessinger 15 US$/hp to 5US$/hp production costs from motor/generator +controler costs; the US-freedom car program; Helmu Schiller PAM-motor 2KW/Kg down to 10 KW/Kg;Dr. Pavel Imris capacitive winding generator, first KW 11 Kg a 30 Euros production costs, each next KW +3,5 Kg a 30 Euros;

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7974 on: December 03, 2018, 03:29:42 PM »
I have been paid a lot of money to look into this storey.

I see why now.

This storey will be a best seller, without a doubt.

Paid a lot of money to write a book that will be completely wrong.
These books belong over at Energetic forum--they have many books of secrets over there  :D
Your going to end up with the same kind of book sold by those like Peter lindermann,and Aaron the rookie--many secrets on nothing much at all-->garbage in other words.

Dont be another that makes those mistakes.
Talk to people like Chet,and get an accurate account of what happened here,and what device actually did what0-- Who measured there devices P/in P/out correctly,and who screwed it all up--most of which can be found in this thread.

If your going to write a book,make it a book of truth.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7975 on: December 03, 2018, 03:57:55 PM »
I confirm. On this site, I had time to send only 2 posts before I was fired. My crime? I asked skeptical questions about a miracle machine whose plans they were probably supposed to sell.
How naive I was! I thought they were looking for real energy devices, while they exploit people's credulity about fictitious devices, with the help of well-known names in the field, both those of people who have never produced anything new, making money from books on knowledge they don't have like Bedini, or great people like Tesla, which is an insult to his memory.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7976 on: December 03, 2018, 05:17:43 PM »
What was shared on this thread is not world changing--it's trouble.

I would also add that Chet (ramset) is one of the good guys here,and not the enemy you have made him out to be.

Chris left because he made errors,not because anyone drove him out.

If you are to write a book,wouldn't you prefer it to represent the truth?.

You also seem to think this !magnetic diode! is some form of wonderful.
In actual fact,if you read as to how it work's,you will soon discover that it is a very lossy mechanism,due to the !eddy current! braking effect of the rotating u shaped copper ring core the coils must reside in,in order for it to work.
It is more of a magnetic deflector,rather than a magnetic diode.

Never take things at face value.
Take a good look at how things work,and if you cant work it out,there are many here than can help.


Brad

F.Y.I.

As is shown below, it is mathematically and practically possible to gain energy in a simple coil (inductor) circuit. At first glance it might appear as measurement error but a more detailed study might provide further insight. Rather than re-furnish the particulars; an already well written presentation is referenced below. 

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/RLC_4?lang=en 

In general, it's worth to note that an increase can be found; formula 4.13 through 4.20. 

To quote, in part (from slide 4) at:     "Insights"

"In this work we proved that it is impossible to gain energy in parametric circuits of the first order in the full cycle (FCC) because the energy dissipated in the resistance is always equal to the energy expended by the power formula (4.9). But if the cycle is incomplete, the receiving gain becomes achievable task. If the reactive element comprises potential energy in the beginning of the cycle (PCCIE), the increase can be found by the formula (4.13). If in the reactive element of the energy remains at the end of the cycle, then the conditions for receiving allowances, we can find according to the formula (4.15), and the increment of efficiency by (4.20).

You need to understand that in this note a mathematically strictly proved potentially achievable values of the increment of energy, part of which, in the real reactance, can be spent inefficiently, for example, on heating. However, on the basis of evidence about the energy increment in the fractional cycles, one can obtain special cases for engineering calculations, which, in turn, will allow you to build a real device with high efficiency." 

http://gorchilin.com/articles/energy/pc2?lang=en

Energy parametric circuits of the second kind. Introduction
....... Return to our reality ........ 

Mathematics may just be our friend! 

FIN


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7977 on: December 03, 2018, 09:06:52 PM »
Forget all mathematics tricks. It won't work, unless you add external energy source to the equation - then the parametric circuit is self-explaining.

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« Reply #7978 on: December 03, 2018, 10:11:27 PM »
@ramset,
Regarding our agreed interview, I must inform you, we have a Film Crew with us. There is a documentary which I am not in charge of.
Are you still ok to proceed? I would hate to surprise you when we meet with a 4 person film crew.
The Documentary will follow the book. Mid next year as far as I understand.

Hi Mr.Miyagi. If someone really has an 'over unity' device, they will be able to demonstrate it
in a clear and reasonable way. 

People make all sorts of claims in forums like this and on Youtube claiming to have 'over unity' devices,
but probably at least 99% of those claims are false.
These people are typically making false claims because:
1) They have no idea what they are talking about and/or how to make proper power measurements.
Making proper power measurements can be very tricky on circuits which produce complex waveforms.
Even electrical engineers/technologists and physicists can make major measurement errors or incorrect assumptions
in this regard. Most of the people making these claims do not even have a basic understanding of electronics or mechanics or science, etc.,
although many may claim they do. :)
2) It is an outright hoax or a scam.

There are so many false and mistaken claims made in these forums on a regular basis that
experienced people here usually won't waste much time on claims here now unless
a person is willing and able to show a demonstration of their device either self-running or
at least clearly showing some very unusual effect. If a 'claimant' can't meet this very basic requirement,
then chances are very very high that they fall into the categories of 1) or 2) listed above.
You would be wise to heed this warning, unless you particularly enjoy wasting time and money. :)


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7979 on: December 04, 2018, 12:17:16 AM »
I am traveling atm just a note the author said something about not posting here for the time being
Something to do with his benefactors instructions ??

 

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