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Offline hyiq

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7710 on: February 09, 2017, 02:15:12 AM »

What's the best wind to get high voltage?
Thin ,lots of turns, as a primary and heavier secondaries?
Or thick less turns, with high turns 2nd's?
Just asking artv




Hey ArtV - Stick to the same basic outlay, same wire gauge and turns as has been shown already.



P.S:   -    3-5:1 / 1:3-5 Turns Ratio is about where this seems to work best. What's your approx. ratio?



As an example, for every 100 turns on the primary, you have approx. 1/3 or 33 turns on each Secondary. Same is also true the other way around. 33 Turns on Primary, to 100 turns on each Secondary.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7710 on: February 09, 2017, 02:15:12 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7711 on: February 09, 2017, 04:46:55 AM »
What's the best wind to get high voltage?
shylo

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Joseph Newman, in his high voltage coil, with a large magnet rotating 90 degrees in the center of the coil, uses 54 miles of wire to get very high voltage....ie, the longer the coil, the more voltage it is capable of. The motor runs on high voltage and a bank of 9v batteries in series to keep the amperage way down...the more voltage in the windings, the less amps it uses. Amps and volts are a logarithmic relationship.

The way Newmans motor works is the 90 degree rotation of the magnetic field kicks out electron pairs from the material of the copper coil (ie, affects the mass of the copper)...its literally E=mc2, turning the mass of the copper into energy (electron pairs) which now can spiral around the wire in both directions, as usable electricity. The process is exactly like the movements of tiny gyroscopes (the electrons or atoms if you dont believe in electrons, as I dont)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7712 on: February 09, 2017, 10:05:13 AM »
 author=hyiq link=topic=15395.msg499594#msg499594 date=1486591087]



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Electromagnetic Induction is still 100% valid in this configuration and is the reason you have Output (V and I).



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You have a System that allows for Electromagnetic Induction Twice.


Let me be more specific
Is it the electric field or the magnetic field that induces the secondaries ?


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7712 on: February 09, 2017, 10:05:13 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7713 on: February 09, 2017, 10:23:59 AM »

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Let me be more specific
Is it the electric field or the magnetic field that induces the secondaries ?


Brad






Hey Brad - Electric Field, the Magnetic A Vector Potential, or the Motional Electric Field, they are the same things.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7714 on: February 09, 2017, 02:01:29 PM »





Hey Brad - Electric Field, the Magnetic A Vector Potential, or the Motional Electric Field, they are the same things.


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First-there is no !bloch wall! at the pole center of a magnet-->how many times do we have to go through this. The center of a magnet(between poles) is where the strongest/most uniform part of the magnetic field is found.

The E field induces the EMF across the secondaries.
When a load is placed across that EMF,a current begins to form/flow,and this flow of current is what forms the magnetic field.

The flow of current that dose not change in time, creates a magnetic field,--but a magnetic field that dose not change in time,dose not create the flow of current.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7715 on: February 09, 2017, 02:27:33 PM »
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The flow of current that dose not change in time, creates a magnetic field,--but a magnetic field that dose not change in time,dose not create the flow of current.[/size]


Are you sure? ... just kidding.
Why do you explain this extremly basic stuff? To somebody who is claiming to know all that? To me an unexplicable waste of time.
kr

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7716 on: February 09, 2017, 02:44:52 PM »

Are you sure? ... just kidding.
Why do you explain this extremly basic stuff? To somebody who is claiming to know all that? To me an unexplicable waste of time.
kr

What did you miss here?

A flow of current is needed to create a magnetic field--so where is this flow of current within a PM-how do we tap into this current flow ?-and currents do flow within a PM.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7717 on: February 09, 2017, 02:58:32 PM »
[/font]What's the best wind to get high voltage?shylo___________________________________Joseph Newman, in his high voltage coil, with a large magnet rotating 90 degrees in the center of the coil, uses 54 miles of wire to get very high voltage....ie, the longer the coil, the more voltage it is capable of. The motor runs on high voltage and a bank of 9v batteries in series to keep the amperage way down...the more voltage in the windings, the less amps it uses. Amps and volts are a logarithmic relationship.The way Newmans motor works is the 90 degree rotation of the magnetic field kicks out electron pairs from the material of the copper coil (ie, affects the mass of the copper)...its literally E=mc2, turning the mass of the copper into energy (electron pairs) which now can spiral around the wire in both directions, as usable electricity. The process is exactly like the movements of tiny gyroscopes (the electrons or atoms if you dont believe in electrons, as I dont)
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Electrons can only move in the conductor if they align their natural spin to the shortest way between the potential diffrence. Thus their normally random spins accummulate. Their spin however produces a gyroscopic force yet to be named, that forces magnetic domains in the molecural/cristalline lattice  into a 90 degree angle. Once the domains are aligned, the "magnetism" will use these domeins like a highway. The Domains are not the magnet, they only rectify the magnetic force that is everywhere, but in a random xyz equilibrium.some materials can keep the domain orientation even after the current stops flowing, and become permanent magnets.


On the other hand, exposing randomly spinning electrons to a magnetic field forces them to spin like a screw until they are out of reach. As free electrons are not really free, but elasticly connected to their original location, they will spin back when the magnetic field is decreasing. Electrons can be rilped off of that elastic connection, causing charge/electron holes, as in semiconductors, at the cost of high energy losses, which is why Tesla's AC won over Edisons DC, because in DC the losses increase tremendously over distance, where in AC electrons rarely lose their connection to their beloved equilubrium condo and basicly just bounce back and forth at a "rubberband".


Well, that may sound unscientific too ^^
kr

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7718 on: February 09, 2017, 08:46:28 PM »

First-there is no !bloch wall! at the pole center of a magnet-->how many times do we have to go through this. The center of a magnet(between poles) is where the strongest/most uniform part of the magnetic field is found.

The E field induces the EMF across the secondaries.
When a load is placed across that EMF,a current begins to form/flow,and this flow of current is what forms the magnetic field.

The flow of current that dose not change in time, creates a magnetic field,--but a magnetic field that dose not change in time,dose not create the flow of current.


Brad




Hey Brad - I will beg to differ.


I believe there is a Bloch Wall present. My Experiments tell me there is, and I will not be persuaded other wise.


Second, Yes, it is the Electric Field.


Third, "The flow of current that dose not change in time, creates a magnetic field" I see a sentence, but no reasoning here. A Current is defined as a Flow, in this case a flow of Electrons/Ions. When it is changing in Time, then this is simply the Rate at, or the Volume of Flow.


As soon as a Flow of Charges is present, no matter weather it is changing in its Volume, will create a Magnetic Field, Charged Particle Moving is a Magnetic Field.


Simply, if there is No Flow, there is No Current!


Yes, I agree with the last bit: "but a magnetic field that dose not change in time,dose not create the flow of current."


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7719 on: February 09, 2017, 08:50:45 PM »

What did you miss here?

A flow of current is needed to create a magnetic field--so where is this flow of current within a PM-how do we tap into this current flow ?-and currents do flow within a PM.


Brad




A Permanent Magnet (PM) is equivalent to a DC Current, where One Ampere is equal to 6.24 x 1018 Electrons / Second moving in the Wire, from Point X to Point Y.


Steady State DC Current


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7720 on: February 09, 2017, 08:54:15 PM »


Electrons can only move in the conductor if they align their natural spin to the shortest way between the potential diffrence. Thus their normally random spins accummulate. Their spin however produces a gyroscopic force yet to be named, that forces magnetic domains in the molecural/cristalline lattice  into a 90 degree angle. Once the domains are aligned, the "magnetism" will use these domeins like a highway. The Domains are not the magnet, they only rectify the magnetic force that is everywhere, but in a random xyz equilibrium.some materials can keep the domain orientation even after the current stops flowing, and become permanent magnets.


On the other hand, exposing randomly spinning electrons to a magnetic field forces them to spin like a screw until they are out of reach. As free electrons are not really free, but elasticly connected to their original location, they will spin back when the magnetic field is decreasing. Electrons can be rilped off of that elastic connection, causing charge/electron holes, as in semiconductors, at the cost of high energy losses, which is why Tesla's AC won over Edisons DC, because in DC the losses increase tremendously over distance, where in AC electrons rarely lose their connection to their beloved equilubrium condo and basicly just bounce back and forth at a "rubberband".


Well, that may sound unscientific too ^^
kr




Yes, this is true. A lot can be learned here, thanks Dieter!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7721 on: February 09, 2017, 09:03:18 PM »
[/font]What did you miss here?A flow of current is needed to create a magnetic field--so where is this flow of current within a PM-how do we tap into this current flow ?-and currents do flow within a PM.Brad
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Please my personal interpretation of the subjects physics  here:
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg499621/#msg499621


As a conclusion of that, in a PM is no DC, only a rectifier for the random ambient magnetic force. Current will only flow if electrons are forced to change their position, which a static magnet field cannot achieve. At least that is my current understanding.


Not saying that you cannot somehow pull DC out of a solid state PM device. But it needs a further player in the game.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7722 on: February 10, 2017, 01:07:35 AM »
The E field induces the EMF across the secondaries.

Hi Tinman, What`s the E field (my question button isn`t working)
Have you tried placing the formation of the resisitive field to aid in propagation.
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7723 on: February 10, 2017, 01:05:10 PM »
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Hi Tinman, What`s the E field (my question button isn`t working)


Hi Shylo

The E field is the electric field.

As the magnetic field is contained within the ferrite toroid core,then that means that only the electric field can induce an EMF across the secondary coils.

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Have you tried placing the formation of the resisitive field to aid in propagation.

What is the !resistive ! field ?


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7724 on: February 10, 2017, 01:20:43 PM »

Please my personal interpretation of the subjects physics  here:
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg499621/#msg499621


As a conclusion of that, in a PM is no DC, only a rectifier for the random ambient magnetic force. Current will only flow if electrons are forced to change their position, which a static magnet field cannot achieve. At least that is my current understanding.


Not saying that you cannot somehow pull DC out of a solid state PM device. But it needs a further player in the game.

I am referring to the current flow within a PM,that maintains the PMs powerful magnetic field.

Look at the magnet as a pump,where the virtual photons are ejected out one end,and sucked back into the other-just like a water pump draws/sucks water in one end,and forces it out the other.

How do we access this current/energy, that continually pumps these virtual photons in a continual loop.


Brad

 

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