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Offline darediamond

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7500 on: November 21, 2016, 11:54:53 AM »
EMJunkie and all, I need your advice over the simplified circuit in the attached picture.

Can it cancel back E.M.F and also Short the coils for instant re-circulation of the reverse energy back into the coil?

What should be the value of the Center Capacitor? Should the Capacitor be AC or DC?

Please do not overlook me.

Thank you all in advance.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7501 on: November 21, 2016, 06:44:08 PM »
Hey Chris :) Very very nice work!!! I need your circuit!! :) will you please tell me which one is the schematic? thank you :D

@ team
I have some better results (from the old 40% gain - now I get 50% gain - I believe It can do much better with a small modification I have in mind, I 'll try it tomorrow). its a draft-setup or experiment you may call it, its not my main setup.. still waiting for materials. But I may reconsider the final design due to this last experiment.. :)
 
Its a POC transformer (4 coils) that has 3 cores (this time all cores are connected to each other) (2 silicon iron and 1 ferrite) in special combination.. No magnets this time :)

Its very easy to replicate.. it uses the known circuit, two identical small mains transformers (in:220V out:2x6V) modified a bit :) i ll post details), a small ferrite block easily found in every old or new laptop and an extra ac capacitor 1uf 400V.

results:
without load the circuit consumes ~0,20A
with load (full brightness) the current drops to ~0,10A
With output sorted the current drops also to 0.10A or less!
Playing with the resistor I can change the current up or down but the gain analogy stays the same no mater the load if its resistive or inductive or short circuited it stays at 50% :)

I am sorry can't post video today because I am away from home... But I will post info, video and photos tomorrow.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7502 on: November 21, 2016, 09:48:41 PM »
  Some years ago, about 10 years or so, there was an earth quake in Costa Rica. On the Caribean coast line where the land and coral reefs came up 2 meters, (about 6 feet) instantly. It also caused a lot of problems, tearing up the roads, bridges, plus the effect of the 6.8 quake had on the land, houses, buildings, and it's people. That is one of the reasons that I don't live there, on that side of this country.

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« Reply #7502 on: November 21, 2016, 09:48:41 PM »
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7503 on: November 22, 2016, 01:31:56 AM »
Hey Chris :) Very very nice work!!! I need your circuit!! :) will you please tell me which one is the schematic? thank you :D

@ team
I have some better results (from the old 40% gain - now I get 50% gain - I believe It can do much better with a small modification I have in mind, I 'll try it tomorrow). its a draft-setup or experiment you may call it, its not my main setup.. still waiting for materials. But I may reconsider the final design due to this last experiment.. :)
 
Its a POC transformer (4 coils) that has 3 cores (this time all cores are connected to each other) (2 silicon iron and 1 ferrite) in special combination.. No magnets this time :)

Its very easy to replicate.. it uses the known circuit, two identical small mains transformers (in:220V out:2x6V) modified a bit :) i ll post details), a small ferrite block easily found in every old or new laptop and an extra ac capacitor 1uf 400V.

results:
without load the circuit consumes ~0,20A
with load (full brightness) the current drops to ~0,10A
With output sorted the current drops also to 0.10A or less!
Playing with the resistor I can change the current up or down but the gain analogy stays the same no mater the load if its resistive or inductive or short circuited it stays at 50% :)

I am sorry can't post video today because I am away from home... But I will post info, video and photos tomorrow.



Hey L0stf0x - Thanks.

The Circuit is still based on the same I posted here: http://overunity.com/10773/physicsprof-steven-e-jones-circuit-shows-8x-overunity/msg289287/#msg289287

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7504 on: November 22, 2016, 01:36:54 AM »
  Some years ago, about 10 years or so, there was an earth quake in Costa Rica. On the Caribean coast line where the land and coral reefs came up 2 meters, (about 6 feet) instantly. It also caused a lot of problems, tearing up the roads, bridges, plus the effect of the 6.8 quake had on the land, houses, buildings, and it's people. That is one of the reasons that I don't live there, on that side of this country.



It is sad, so many People, killed, hurt and displaced! Japan just had another 7.4 Tsunami hits Japan after strong quake, nuclear plant briefly disrupted - Seems Edgar Cayce was spot on:

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The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline l0stf0x

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7505 on: November 22, 2016, 10:41:27 AM »
Well.... I forgot to do some testings on this setup with the coils position and to test other type of size of ferrite... today I will complete them and I ll post the final circuit and details.

For now this is a fast video
https://youtu.be/uHBfBQXWun4

and one closer look at the transformer video.
https://youtu.be/h37aUqobKUc

Yesterday I had slightly better results but anyway..

voltage with load 7.58v
voltage without load 7.54v
current with load 0.11A
current without 0.19A

to be continued later today..

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7506 on: November 22, 2016, 11:49:44 AM »
              http://overunity.com/10773/physicsprof-steven-e-jones-circuit-shows-8x-overunity/msg289287/#msg289287
                                                              answer 141 and 144 related :

                Partnered- hot and cold energy-output coils by hot/cold energy input :
                                                             ac-celerated                                 de-celerated

                                  you are experimenting,they did also experimented and publicated "results":
                                                            worth,to think about their "results" ?

                                      http://www.inpama.com/index.php?content=invention&id=733

                                      https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021121&CC=US&NR=2002171299A1&KC=A1#

                                      https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920507&CC=DE&NR=4035445A1&KC=A1#

                    you are in search for the "ambient energy transforming superconductive circuit" ,here you have to understand
                    the thermodynamic rules and orders (see : IBM work ,Bednarz Physics-Nobel-Award)
           
                   see the work from Adolf Zielinski and read also these:

                   German 
                   https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20000906&CC=EP&NR=1033807A1&KC=A1#
                 
                   2English translated
                   http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=EP&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=1033807&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en

                  cited documents:
                  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citedDocuments?CC=EP&NR=1033807A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=4&date=20000906&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

                Can "power amplifying" be so easy ?
                 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=5&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19981126&CC=DE&NR=29812556U1&KC=U1#

                https://www.google.pt/search?q=schwei%C3%9Ftransformator&client=firefox-b-ab&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAvPvtnrzQAhXMPxQKHb98CmwQsAQIKQ&biw=1366&bih=667

( META C work-out could explain the effect https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=META+C&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

f.e. : https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090227&CC=MY&NR=137586A&KC=A# )

                and  about reply 7559 : P.S:               One must ask why the Coil Orientation is so important!

                                                    In God we trust,but in this :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20031204&CC=US&NR=2003222512A1&KC=A1#

                                                       also ?  ::)   Magnetic earth lines !
 
                                                                          As flying object :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040101&CC=US&NR=2004000251A1&KC=A1#


Also important: the winding(-s) orientation ! ccw or cw,vertical or horizontal,....... .
and not to misunderstand:    "physical" coils turns and "virtual" coil"Ampere"turns/windings

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline l0stf0x

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7507 on: November 22, 2016, 04:33:11 PM »
Ok I had no better results yet.. so this is the circuit if you use the primaries (secondaries of normal use)next to each other.. using the small c core ferite.

If you flip the pairs of coils and you use the secondaries next to each other then you need a straight ferite block to get the same effect.

both ferites are found in the same component.. its an hf transformer for lcd back light used in laptops. (photos)



@ Chris: What you think of Don Smith generator? Is it a legit or a hoax and if its legit (I think it is) why we don't try it? :)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7508 on: November 22, 2016, 04:41:58 PM »
I wanted to place a ferite as a block between the secondaries (imagine the coils flipped) in the drawing.. But it needs work to cut the laminations :) maybe I ll do it later.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7509 on: November 27, 2016, 11:13:34 PM »



As always, nice work Lostfox!!!

Sorry I have not replied earlier! Been busy, World domination is a big job - Hahaha Just kidding.

Do you know why the Input current goes down under load? I think this is a real important point to understand and see why this works as it does.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7510 on: November 28, 2016, 12:27:45 AM »


As always, nice work Lostfox!!!

Sorry I have not replied earlier! Been busy, World domination is a big job - Hahaha Just kidding.

Do you know why the Input current goes down under load? I think this is a real important point to understand and see why this works as it does.


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Yes,the inductance value increases on the primary when a load is attached.


Brad

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« Reply #7510 on: November 28, 2016, 12:27:45 AM »
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« Reply #7511 on: November 28, 2016, 12:28:33 AM »
From one of sir zep.vids, notice the geometric design of the field around the magnet

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7512 on: November 28, 2016, 11:02:31 AM »


As always, nice work Lostfox!!!

Sorry I have not replied earlier! Been busy, World domination is a big job - Hahaha Just kidding.

Do you know why the Input current goes down under load? I think this is a real important point to understand and see why this works as it does.

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Hey Chris, Everyone is busy these days :)

About your question..
From my observation and understanding.. I got an idea of what its happening..
Actually to be more accurate, the gain is more when the resistor is less, means sort circuit of POC secondaries = best gain.  <Its true but this is not the only factor :) .. placing the right capacitor/s at secondaries or primaries (tuning of coils) the gain maybe even much better! And that maybe can explain my different gains from transformer to transformer.

But lets see the POC effect..
Current is being directed back to source? or primary inductance is raised so less current required for the same work?", or both? But we don't get so much extra power, we just use less for the same work.! So the magic wing is the poc but the magic happens to primary mostly!

I think the poc combination does an extra "self" oscillation "at the background".. this "free" (this is free energy) extra oscillation not only boost the current at secondary it self, but also raise the inductance at the primary at the battery's eyes because "positive back induction(reversal of BEMF)" happens and extra electrons are trapped in primary making battery's life better. So POC hits back the primary electromagnetically as its being 'another' secondary

sort circuited = Reversed BEMF transmitter fully ON (but can be better if the right cap or load is connected)
load connected = Reversed BEMF transmitter ON or middle state (resistance and inductance depended)
open circuit = Reversed BEMF transmitter OFF

The right sorted coil (or more) or an LC tank can in general do that if you position it correctly.. But POC is "3 in 1".. secondary, sorted coil and BEMF revertor all in one secondary. Its simple as it should be, and its free energy by its nature.

I think for the best results secondary/ies and primary/ies coils need to be tuned to the same wavelength(or dividable) so this "free" transmitting/receiving communication will be at its best. And that probably its the reason for so many different results from transformer to transformer.. Some has great results and others better constructed has worst results.. Some accidentally get close to matched wavelengths or harmonics, some not :)
I haven't complete any testings yet to prove that but I will soon. maybe I am wrong!

..................

I have completed most of the possible combinations with POC transformers design.. No better results from the last ones. The effect is there.. Better construction means better coupling.

So I stopped messing with cores etc and now I am testing the tuning of coils and combining of 2 or more transformers in a single setup.

The last days I am building a setup with two "tuned" transformers, combined with 2 grounds, spark-gaps, caps etc. something similar to Tesla and Don Smith work.

I ll be back :)


« Last Edit: November 28, 2016, 01:44:33 PM by l0stf0x »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7513 on: November 28, 2016, 04:02:59 PM »
Yes,the inductance value increases on the primary when a load is attached.


Brad




Hey Brad - Are you sure? With any increase in Magnetic Field, there should always be a reduction in Inductance... How could simply Loading a Coil increase its inductance? Nothing else has changed, Core Permeability, Turns, Area...

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7514 on: November 28, 2016, 04:42:40 PM »
Hey Chris, Everyone is busy these days :)

About your question..
From my observation and understanding.. I got an idea of what its happening..
Actually to be more accurate, the gain is more when the resistor is less, means sort circuit of POC secondaries = best gain.  <Its true but this is not the only factor :) .. placing the right capacitor/s at secondaries or primaries (tuning of coils) the gain maybe even much better! And that maybe can explain my different gains from transformer to transformer.

But lets see the POC effect..
Current is being directed back to source? or primary inductance is raised so less current required for the same work?", or both? But we don't get so much extra power, we just use less for the same work.! So the magic wing is the poc but the magic happens to primary mostly!

I think the poc combination does an extra "self" oscillation "at the background".. this "free" (this is free energy) extra oscillation not only boost the current at secondary it self, but also raise the inductance at the primary at the battery's eyes because "positive back induction(reversal of BEMF)" happens and extra electrons are trapped in primary making battery's life better. So POC hits back the primary electromagnetically as its being 'another' secondary

sort circuited = Reversed BEMF transmitter fully ON (but can be better if the right cap or load is connected)
load connected = Reversed BEMF transmitter ON or middle state (resistance and inductance depended)
open circuit = Reversed BEMF transmitter OFF

The right sorted coil (or more) or an LC tank can in general do that if you position it correctly.. But POC is "3 in 1".. secondary, sorted coil and BEMF revertor all in one secondary. Its simple as it should be, and its free energy by its nature.

I think for the best results secondary/ies and primary/ies coils need to be tuned to the same wavelength(or dividable) so this "free" transmitting/receiving communication will be at its best. And that probably its the reason for so many different results from transformer to transformer.. Some has great results and others better constructed has worst results.. Some accidentally get close to matched wavelengths or harmonics, some not :)
I haven't complete any testings yet to prove that but I will soon. maybe I am wrong!

..................

I have completed most of the possible combinations with POC transformers design.. No better results from the last ones. The effect is there.. Better construction means better coupling.

So I stopped messing with cores etc and now I am testing the tuning of coils and combining of 2 or more transformers in a single setup.

The last days I am building a setup with two "tuned" transformers, combined with 2 grounds, spark-gaps, caps etc. something similar to Tesla and Don Smith work.

I ll be back :)



A very astute observation indeed!!!

"Actually to be more accurate, the gain is more when the resistor is less, means sort circuit of POC secondaries = best gain." This is exactly right! Lower the Resistance, the more Current Flow, the higher the Magnetic Fields go in Value! Because  Magnetic Field Gauss(B) = Permeability(μ) Turns(N) Current(I)

Walt Rosenthal said:

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The VTA "likes" to always see a minimum load of 25 watts


We are dealing with three Primary Magnetic Fields and Three Secondary Magnetic Fields. Each Primary and Secondary Field from Each Coil. Primary being the Forward Positive, and the Secondary, being Lenz Reflected, field.

Brad is right as you are, the Inductance is pushed backwards, instead of forwards like we normally see. Thus the Input Coil sees less "Load" and the Current drops.


Its all to do, directly, with the Magnetic Fields, its beauty is fantastic! Its simplicity is Breath Taking and yet its the most complicated process I have ever seen. Not something that most will be able to understand withot doing Experiments to see it work.

Exactly: "I think the poc combination does an extra "self" oscillation "at the background".. this "free" (this is free energy) extra oscillation..." My video: Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation should have been a give away for so many, maybe so many just didn't want to see?

This video was published nearly 6  years ago now!!!

Janice Manning and Tom Bearden both quoted Floyd Sweet:

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"On rare occasions, Sweet saw this effect, called self-oscillation, occur in electric transformers"

and

"Sweet was also a transformer designer and expert, and he remarked that he had also observed specialized self-oscillation in certain transformers. "



One has to get the Magnetic Fields of the right value, or this does not work. One has to make sure that each field is of a very close total value.

You do great work, and yes we do get busy these days. Sometimes life takes control and we cant enjoy it, sadly we work for the Machine we have created rather than for ourselves!

I should point out, the total Impedance is changed, not just the Inductance.

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