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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7470 on: November 11, 2016, 09:04:13 AM »



Electrons = Electrons and Ions so I do not miss an Identity. An Atom is a Mass.


Actually Subatomic to be precise, what's an Electron? A Subatomic Particle, making up the Atom, along with Protons and Neutrons, all of which has Mass... An electrical Current is Electrons (Free Electrons, Outer Orbital Electrons) from the Atoms of Copper in our Case. Where One Ampere is 6.24 x 1018 of the Copper Atom's Electrons / Second.

Now who is the Idiot?


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7471 on: November 11, 2016, 09:25:18 AM »


Now who is the Idiot?


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twenty years before tech standart :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=22&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970102&CC=DE&NR=19522450A1&KC=A1


I hope that you does not -really- expect an answer to this rabulistic question !
I am not here to reflect yourself !
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7472 on: November 11, 2016, 11:13:58 AM »





E.G: Turn Ratio's which by the way is (Between 2:1 and 3:1 Approx - Step Down) - But, the Input Voltage is 312.7 and Output Voltage is only 9.46 Volts (Sync Rectification is the Reason)




So, with 312.7 Volts RMS on the Input, with a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio, we should have had 156.35 (2:1) or 104.23 (3:1) Volts on the Output.

Instead, Graham shows the Spike (As the Electric Field - Voltage) at Sync Rectification Switch off of the Mosfet. This Spike is 700 Volts ish. This DC Wave with the 700 Volt Spike is DC -9.46 or so Volts which is hard to see because of the scale. The Triangle, or Saw Tooth Wave is the magnetic Fields (Opposing)

This big spike is due to the Current Change, from one Partnered Output Coil to the Other, ah'la Time Rate of Change of the Magnetic Field between each coil, Electromagnetic Induction. Sharp Gradient's... John Bedini's Inductive Collapse at SG Transistor Off Time, Fly Back. As Graham said, this happens at Mosfet Switch Off.

Note, this is not the Current, its the Voltage on the Sync Rect side of the Output Coils, The scope Shot below the top Scope Shot shows the Current. The Green Wave is the Output Current.

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P.S: I still think there is a Measurement Error on Graham Gunderson's MIT - There should be 2x Current Probes on the Output Wires, One Probe on Each Wire, as there is more than 998mA in that Globe, each Coil, Partnered Output Coil will likely have the same, so the Amps Mean should be 2 or so Amps, not nearly one. E.G: Ohms Law: Current (I) = Voltage (V) / Resistance (R), so 9.46 / 7.56 = 1.25132 Amperes. I know that Resistance changes with heat in the Filament, @12.6 Volts the Resistance is 7.56 Ohms, a 21 Watt Globe. So Grahams Output is more than he measured in my opinion.

In my Globe, 21 Watts, @9.46 Volts, my DC Current is 1.4 Amperes So all I can see, is Graham has not accounted for all power on the Output!




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« Reply #7473 on: November 11, 2016, 11:18:56 AM »



@lancaIV - I have asked you before, please stop posting completely irrelevant rubbish to this thread. Go and start your own thread for that stuff. Please delete your last post.

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« Reply #7474 on: November 12, 2016, 11:24:54 PM »



I should make this point again, the Total Average Power in the Primary Coil is 2.0 Watts - At the same time, the Total Average Power in the Secondary Coil's is 8.378 Watts


That means, that the ONLY coupling from the Input, to the Output, is entirely MAGNETIC in Nature - Electromagnetic Induction


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7475 on: November 13, 2016, 03:22:46 AM »
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Hi wist, Hi gav, my setup has the 24awg. bifilar wound on top of the secondary and only on

one half or on top of one partnered secondary coil.
It might matter gav, not sure, don't forget my ferrite cores are beads or tubes, 1-1/8"

long x 3/4" outer diameter x little over 3/8" inner diamter.
As may be seen it the latest pic, i have another bifilar wound over other secondary in

opposite wind direction and only using one trigger coil and it does not perform as good

and current increases, probably because the inducer primaries are fighting each other a

bit.
With the wiring outlined in chris sykes pdf and my schematic, the current lowers when

loaded with the led bulb.
Seems like it prefers capacitive loads, so i assume the led bulb has some kind of

capacitor at some point it likes.
Also, as i said, i can take one particular wire from each secondary and use those 2 wire

ends to power the led bulb just as well, which means the coils are then open circuit.
Hope that helps, feel free to ask any more questions or give comments.
A picture or something might help, then i could see what you guys are doing.
peace love light

Edit: also, the secondary is 2 separate coils with a small space between the 2 coils,

because they have to be wound in opposite directions.



So these couple experiments have proved to me that:
1- there is actually something to the whole partnered secondary thing
2- the Current draw and Voltage consumption is reduced by having the partnered secondaries
3- Even though this configuration is supposed to be nearly eliminating the magnetic flux

in the core, there is still magnetic flux, but it can be used to our advantage

the whole statement of having magnetic fields cancel and E fields adding (or doubling)

doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. In order to have electrification, both magnetism

and dielectricity must be present. Electrification happens at the points where the

dielectric and magnetic fields intersect, so if we were to completely cancel out the

magnetic field, we would have only dielectricity, which is pure voltage.
In order to have real electricity, we must have Voltage (dielectricity) and Current

(magnetism)
However, this is the interesting thing: A current can be induced into an inductor in 2

different ways:
1) a changing magnetic flux ( A passing magnet)
1)When magnetic flux induces a current into an inductor, the resultant collapse of said

magnetic field results in a spike of dielectricity (voltage spike)
2) Voltage (dielectric field) being applied to an inductor
2)When a voltage is directed into an inductor, a magnetic field builds up and current is

induced, and the resultant collapse of said magnetic field produces a spike of

dielectricity.

Capacitors are holders of dielectricity
Inductors are holders of magnetic fields
So one holds Voltage, one holds Current. That is why I added capacitors to my device - to

see if I could create some sort of system of mutual partnership between capacitor and

inductor, which it seems I did do.

I haven't fully figured out how my device is functioning the way it is, but I am working

on it. The more tests I perform, the better I will understand.


So it appears that Tesla took this principal [bucking coils] from his original little

transformer and up-scaled it and applied it to the Tower, or at least with one particular

design or configuration of it.

Found within Leland Andersons “Rare notes” is the following picture or schematic version

of the Tower… In this particular schematic the tower’s Extracoil is driven by the two

[bucking?] dual secondary coils. So Tesla calls it “Statically Charged”.

Statically Charged:


Notice two primary coils, (or split primary) driving two secondary [bucking] coils, then

both secondary coils driving one common Extra Coil. The [reflected] output of the two

bucking secondary coils are output to ground.


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In one of Tesla's lectures, he describes the construction of a induction coil which is a

bucking coil design. He said that the "electromagnetic fields cancel" in the space between

the coils. He also said that the "electrostatic" effects at the open end were "sufficient"

to replicate most of the interesting high frequency phenomenon he describes in his

lectures.
So it appears that Tesla took this principal [bucking coils] from his original little

transformer and up-scaled it and applied it to the Tower, or at least with one particular

design or configuration of it.

Found within Leland Andersons “Rare notes” is the following picture or schematic version

of the Tower… In this particular schematic the tower’s Extracoil is driven by the two

[bucking?] dual secondary coils. So Tesla calls it “Statically Charged”.

Statically Charged:


Notice two primary coils, (or split primary) driving two secondary [bucking] coils, then

both secondary coils driving one common Extra Coil. The [reflected] output of the two

bucking secondary coils are output to ground.
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Hi folks, I have been making tests with different windings for the primary oscillator.
I tried a single 24awg. strand combined with a 30awg. trigger strand and wasn't satisfied

with the results, frequency too low and output weak at 15 volts input.
Now the primary oscillator is using five 24awg. strands, one being used for the feedback

trigger wire.
The frequency is nice and high, cannot hear it at 15 volts input and the output is great

into the led bulb load.
Initial input current is 200 milliamps and under led bulb load, it drops to 100 milliamps

at 15 volts input and to my eyes is just about full brightness and it is a 3.6 watt led

bulb, gutted.
More tests to be done.

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Hi folks, hi sputins, thanks for sharing and share all you want, looks applicable to me.
I think i have an idea what you are saying about the static and non-static idea.
I posted a scope picture from naudin earlier that may show some evidence of that, where

the bucking coils when dc pulsed, cancel input current wise, however the field still

exists and is given back on collapse.
I would say that is static initially and then electrostatic is given back.
I have been making many tests and i observed an anomalous result when using only 4 volt

input, unfortunately i could not repeat the result after trying it again for some reason.
Output of led bulb was brighter than normal for only 400 milliwatt input.
Just before hand, i had been using around 20 volt input and then switched to the 4 volt

input and observed the impressive efficiency.
Also, i thought to try AC power from the wall and used a 12 volt AC 1 amp output wall

wart, only observed 6.5 volts AC output and since the secondaries are thin gauge, it

dropped to low volts under a small resistor load.
However, i put a killiwatt meter on the wall wart and did notice the input drop a bit when

the secondary load was applied.
Another observation when using the AC wall wart power, when placing the primary coil/core

onto secondary core, it was like the primary core was repelling from the ferrite secondary

core, whereas with the pulsed DC, it wants to stick to the core.
Will be making more tests as i think of them.
peace love light

edit: here is a link to the naudin bucking coil experiments. My Bucking Coils

The question is, how can the bucking coil arrangement, induce a current into the L3

secondary on collapse, if it does not do so when current is initially pulsed into it.
Still thinking about that one me self.

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When you negate Lenz in a Coil or transformer, to achieve overunity, just increase the

magnetic flux and frequency and the Zero Point Energy Field will flow freely into your

Coil to multiply your Output.
The use of Bifilar will not give much Magnetic Flux like using serially connected 20

strands and above.
The rate at which you drive the Concentrated Flux will determine the amount of Radiant

Energy the Secondary will be able to Pump out for you. Also, the Gauge number of your

secondary matters.
Though it can be used that way, Partnered output coils are actually overunity Generator in

Disguise so treat them as such by using thin Gauge like 0.31mm wire for your Primary which

must be wound with Multifilar wire of that stated gauge. Now drive the Powerful output

FLUX of that Primary with HIGH FREQUENCY. Wind your secondaries with Thick gauge like

AWG15 or AWG 8 etc. to get concentrated Electrons from the environment and thus keep down

the driving current from the power supply.
Note: the amount of Flux your primary is outputting and the gauge of of your secondaries

will determine the amount of usable power that will be available in the Primary. Your Core

Must be Moulded Core be it industrially manufactured or homemade (recommended). You need

High Frelquency, Super Strong Flux from the primary to fully turn bucking output coils

into Overunity Generator. Your Core must be Big enough to withstand the Flux your Splitted

Pralled Primaries will be Producing.
*Do not limit yourself to 20 strands as I mentioned earlier, you can go as high as 200

strands.
0.31mm coated copper wire is 5grams per 24foot 5inches. So 200 strands of that twisted

together will give 1kg which you can even divide into two to make it 400 strands and

connect each strand in series to the next one provide you can patiently do so.
Hint: To remove coating of enamel on each leads at a time, briefly subjet them all to

burning Gas.
AWG#30 is 32ohms per 100g and 1.5ohms per 5g. Generally, the higher the ohmic value of a

coil, the higher the needed voltage to drive to generate it Maximum Flux.
Learn to make Litz wire making machine. You need it. There are 2 versions now which can be

made using wood like I did.
To get high magnetic flux high current is not needed so using thinner gauge is better as

that will require high voltage which will also aid the flow of z.p.e over the secondaries

and reduce input current further.
You can power your bucking coil using AC to avoid back emf of DC. Just make an High

Frequency Pure Sine Wave Inverter which Have Moulded Core Center tapped High Voltage

Transformer and supply the output of the Transformer from the inverter to your Bucking

Coil Overunity TrafoGen Primary and use Diodes to rectify the higher output with High

frequency diodes like HER508 and Invert it again to Generate AC and from there, make the

set up self charging by converting the AC from the second inverter to DC using an AC to DC

converter and link that to your Battery or better High Farad Serially Connected Super

Capacitor Bank(The BEST OPTION)
Good luck.

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Chris Sykes am read to migrate to your new site.  builders hyiq.org. but my old account and parol were disappeared with my hardly demaged HD drive with 0.5 TB importnant experimental and other valuable informations so i need new account at your buuilders site. Would you like to send me a link or better old account data ?

ps_wistiti. About Wire gauge. You even can understand how much you are righjt in your conclusion.
Bucking or OZ nomenclature "PARTNERED" like MALE-FEMALE coil configuration work also in AIR CORES CONFIGURATION and in the FERRITE CORES CONFIGURATION. In last you need to put Ferrites in Saturation mode and should use ferrites with bistabile B-H configuration (best ManganZync) for the best power output. You can even use old rasty iron nails as a core and it will work also. REMEMBER WE CAN CANCEL MAGNETIC OR ELECTRIC FIELDS WE CAN ONLY RECONFIGURE THEM or precise RECONNECT THEM particulary.WHY ?? BECAUSE BOTH ARE THE MATTER WITH OWN PROPERTIES !! ELECTRICAL MATTER AND MAGNETIC DIPOLE MATTER.  :D

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« Reply #7476 on: November 14, 2016, 12:19:22 AM »




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The 7.8 Quake and aftershock's (45 + to date) have completely destroyed my Stompin Ground when I was a Kid. I am heart Broken for you guys, seeing the damage and the recent massive movements is shocking.

It is stunning to see, this video is The last 48 hours in NZ at 30 second intervals. All quakes above the magnitude of two.

A good part of the reason I have researched and shared what I have learnt about Power Generation can be seen in this video: Power Lines On Parkers Rd Tahuna Going Off - Due to 7.8 Quake. I think sooner, rather than later, the Lights will go out and not come back...


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« Reply #7477 on: November 14, 2016, 02:21:19 AM »
Chris...  😕

Team i have some spare time today...   
Project on the go!! 😊

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« Reply #7478 on: November 14, 2016, 09:14:47 AM »
Hey Wistiti!! I like your setup!!! :)
You are going to use the ready coils on toroids as secondaries or primaries? Don't forget to check both ways. :)

I am building as well ... ;)


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« Reply #7479 on: November 14, 2016, 10:41:23 AM »
The use of Delay Lines to increase efficiency - http://gorchilin.com/articles/ideas/delay?lang=en

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« Reply #7480 on: November 14, 2016, 01:48:16 PM »
Hi Lostfox!
For now i have just the time to do a few test with the coil on the toroid as the primary (120vac). This way depend of the center leg POC connection i have 16v or 32v at the output... I have more configuration to try... For sure i will also try it the other way, center poc as primary and toroid as secondary... :)

To be continued...  ;)

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« Reply #7481 on: November 14, 2016, 01:49:28 PM »
@ arhitrade,
Interesting concept! :)

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« Reply #7482 on: November 14, 2016, 09:31:19 PM »


@Wistiti - Looking Good! This idea reminds me of another device: am-fm chaotic self-organized oscillator from a 3ph solid state rotoverter

Gustavo Roveran's channel has a lot of good videos.

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« Reply #7483 on: November 15, 2016, 01:13:16 AM »



The use of Delay Lines to increase efficiency - http://gorchilin.com/articles/ideas/delay?lang=en



Thanks Arhitrade! This is a fantastic Article!

I am still reading and studding the Math, but I already see that we have seen some of this already. It is clear that the thinking behind this article is the same, as you have pointed out. We are looking at two Power Sources.

   P1
   P2

Each quantity is the direct result of Ohms Law: Power P = Current (I)2 x Resistance (R)

It is pointed out that the Impedance (Z) is a factor of this power output, which is the combination of DC and AC Resistances, AC Resistance is the Reactance (X), which both Coils will have.

The Voltage Source's are defined as:

   U1
   U2

We see an equation that we have covered before:

   da+/dt + da-/dt = I

Where (a) is the angle, or direction indicated by the Current, Positive or Negative. This equation brings the same result as:

   I1 + I2

extending:

   (I1 + I2)2 * R = Pg

which is the same as:

   Ig2 * R = Pg

Which is Ohms Law. The Capacity that is mentioned (Kη2) is an interesting addition, perhaps something I have been missing for all this time. Any Math Guru's, I would really like to hear any comments you might have hear?

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P.S: All here should see that LDL2 is in implementation of the Tariel Kapanadze Device:


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« Reply #7484 on: November 15, 2016, 03:33:00 AM »



I want to make a point of this as there is a lot of very good reasoning behind the ideas and concepts:

@Giantkiller - The thread you started has solid foundation! You have the right concepts in your head, how do I know? I started in a very similar area.

See: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout

When Electromagnetic Induction occurs, there is initially a Voltage Potential gained, there can be no Current, unless a Load is applied, and then a Current will flow, this process can not work the other way.

When Electromagnetic Induction occurs, if there is no Voltage, then there can be no Current.

Do the Magnetic Fields Buck in an Electromagnetic "Generator"? - Yes, the Magnetic Fields oppose on Rotor approach to the Stator, the Fields Buck - But not how Conventionally Bucking is defined or understood! Simply because typically there is No Voltage Potential, if there was, then this would be a different storey! Sharp Pulses can do this!
   
There is another way, its easier to understand and it starts with Floyd Sweets Equation mentioned above, and the MrPreva Circuit shows how this works.

Remember, the Magnetic Field is Current and Current is the Magnetic Field, Current directions oppose, Magnetic Fields Oppose!

See:

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