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Offline l0stf0x

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7440 on: November 01, 2016, 07:39:11 AM »
Hi guys!
Just a little update. I have no result to share yet but i have some spare time tonight and i want to let you know about my setup. I use a reed switch to trigger the primary. I try the primary poc in a bucking way but have no good result... So i put the 2 primary coil the same way (North upside) and it seem to work. For now i have a hard time to set the magnet for it to maintain it to run... :( but when it run it seem to have a nice output. :)

To be continue...

Lostfox, does your primary are north and south upside?

Hey Wistiti :), Nice setup.. (try to eliminate the gap between the secondaries coils to get better results)
Yes north and south upside, the other way does not work at all.

I still build and do testings with different (coil) setups. Trying to understand why and where is the key to POC.
I have nice gain but no "wow" results yet too Wistiti,
I can charge other battery (a bit faster than drive battery) but cannot charge the drive battery yet.

Until now, All my setups that use bifilar for primary have less output than those with Primary in POC arrangement.
Also the POC coils (if no core is used) need to be very very close to each other (in the same spool if possible). Eliminate the space between them to raise the gain.
The secondaries need to magnetically communicate to each other in order to get overunity.

From all testings, I end up to a different setup idea..
I am about to build a more advanced setup. I will be back.. :)





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« Reply #7441 on: November 01, 2016, 09:36:40 PM »
Ok thank you!
I will wait to see your next setup... :)

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« Reply #7442 on: November 02, 2016, 04:28:40 AM »




@Wistiti and LostFox - The Fields will Oppose, as the Current in one Partnered Output Coil will be in the opposite direction to the other. That is, if you measure the Current on each Coil. Remember our past experiments: See below Image.

If there is no Voltage Potential, there can be no Current, this we have also covered.

I have some work to share soon also. Got my parts and building now.

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« Reply #7443 on: November 02, 2016, 09:37:03 AM »




It is true, there are many smart people here.

When I was in discovery, which, by the way, I am still in, I always wondered, where was the secret to the mysterious Negative Energy, what were we missing, and where does this magic lay. Where was this strange form of Induction, how could just Inductors and Capacitors make a machine run itself and a series of other devices?

I searched high and Low!

It was right in front of our Eyes all along. Sir Richard Feynman made a comment some time back, I always thought it was odd:

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So you see, that the real Energy change is the Negative of the Mechanical Work, and that's why I keep writing this as EArtificial, because the true Energy of the world, is the Negative of EArtificial, in this case is μ.B - I just want to point out that difference in Sign, but that's just interesting.


This is such an IMPORTANT statement!!!

What does this say, really?

It says, the Energy we "Generate" with our "Electrical Generators" is EArtificial, the opposite to the True Energy of the World which is -EArtificial.

What is the significance here? There is a massive difference, Lenz's Law is reversed.

What we see as Electrical Energy currently, is this EArtificial, this is Electromagnetic Induction, but the Reverse of it -EArtificial, is the True Energy of the World, where Energy begets Energy, Yin Yang.

So many smart people seem to completely forget about this simple, well known, phenomena!

I show you above, how this works, this is the Yin Yang of Electromagnetic Induction.

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« Reply #7444 on: November 02, 2016, 06:33:54 PM »
 -EArtificial and EArtificial


 
 The equation "5 in 1 household divided, 3 against 2 and 2 against 3", found in the New Testament,
 
 (Note: Is a mathematical formula embedded into the narrative by someone who knew of the properties of quantum physics as we are beginning to discover. The embedders of this information go far, far back beyond any Hebrew civilization, beyond Phonician, beyond Cannanite, to perhaps Sumerian civilization or more).
 
 "There is a total of 6 forces reduced to 5 (6 / 5 ratio) because of the   dual role of Mother/Mother-in-law, divided - / - =  +.
 
 According to the custom, + was assigned to male    = 2+
 And.................  - was assigned to female = 4-
 6 factors in all and considering the dual role, changes - to +, it now   becomes 5 forces:
 
 1 = 3 positive (+), 2 negative (-), or
 1 = 1 force divided that is apparently a negative force but is    actually a positive force operating against 2 manifestly negative   forces, and with 2 manifestly positive forces".
 
 
 "Only if you understand that a negative number self-divided, is   equivalent to a positive number, can you resolve the number of    forces (5) in one's house, with the number of signs (6). Furthermore,   the above matrix of forces give rise to 12 signs:
 
 8 positive, 4 negative (Note: This is B. Fuller again).
 
 Still finer divisions of forces underlie the matrix (field). A force   that involves "doubly stated double negatives" giving rise to a    negative effect which is of positive value in life. (See "negative   entropy" statement above, by Schrodinger). This negative effect in   life is expressed as "nothing positive" (0+),
 
 
 (Note: 0+ is = tao, holy ghost, space, negative entropy, zero and the "S" between the yin/yang symbols, and of course, neutrality. The negative effect Harold speaks about here, expressed as "nothing positive", feels as if he is pointing to the neutralization that life delivers to us all, doesn't it? What do you think?).
 
Shining Stranger, pg. 186.       
 
 1 / 1/1 = 1/1 =   "5 in 1 household divided".
 
 3/2 x 2/3 = 1    is "3 against 2 and 2 against 3", 1 quantum.
 
 also,
 
 0/0 = 1 - 1 / 1 - 1 = 1
 
 (Note: All are redundant, repeated or iterated as in the process of fractal construction).
 
   
 
  The fractional expression disappears and 1 appears. "Something"    in life inverts to bring 1 whole".
 
 
  "Expresses the Fitzgerald contraction- 2 measures of 1 posed    against each other.
 
 This is the "unequal principle", binary growth, or the logarithmic    spiral".

  "The maximum working against the minimum. Light sometimes    takes the longest path. Both processes operate at once".
 
 

 (Note: Light sometimes takes the longest path simply because 1/2 of it is inverted-reversed-mirror imaged-traveling backwards, like unto Terrance Mc Kenna's Timewave or Marko Rodin's bi-directional toroidal sphere).
 
   
 
  Asymmetry of "1". Parity (distinguishing between odd and even    number). If 2 integers are both even (2, 2) or both odd (3, 3) =    same parity.  If one is even and the other odd (2, 3) = opposite    parity.

 What applies to ones least measure (the neutrino) must also apply   to the greatest measure (universe). Self-conserving     principles of 3 / 2 x 2 / 3 = 1 represents greater/lesser systems,   left/right handedness.

 3/2 represents action.   Loss in one is
 2/3 represents reaction.  Gain in the other.
 
   
 
 "It was discovered that the neutrino, the least, first (1) particle, is a  structure with true spatial asymmetry.
 
 "1" = 5 points. Parity is opposite. Plus aspect 3 / 2, minus aspect 2 / 3   cross(+) action. The neutrino is also symmetric".
 
   
 
 Yang said, "If one performs a mirror reflection and  converts all   matter into antimatter, then physical laws remain unchanged".   
 
 He also asked, "Why is it necessary in order to have symmetry, to   combine the operation of,
 
  switching matter and antimatter with
 a mirror reflection".
 
   
 
 "This 5th dimension (5th level of structure, 5th power) is seamless,   positive (+) and leads from negative to a plus situation (nothing to   something)",
 
 (Note: This 5th level sounds like the big bang cosmogony at first, then thousands of millions of little bangs of transformation. But Harold, here seems to be speaking of human reality evolving into the 5th dimension. Its hard to tell if this applies to human reality or to cosmology isn't it? Let me say, that the two are not separated. They both are from one and the same Life Force but one is a reflection of the other).
 
 "through thousands of millions of transformations, therefore, change  is not the single reality, to the contrary, positive being is the single  reality (I Am) in the midst of these changes".
 
   
 
 "The neutral, redundant power of 1 is the most penetrating, as is the  neutron, the arrangement of opposite forces giving rise to 50%   redundancy. In communication, the English language is 50% redundant  in that 1 / 2 of what is said could be omitted and the basic    information could be conveyed and understood".
 
 "Electrical neutrality may depend upon forces that are not 50%   redundant as in this grouping (+ - + - +) for if the signs are canceled   to zero (0 + 0) the arrangement becomes 50% redundant in neutral   signs (force) so that neutrality rather than positive charge would be  communicated although the positive value (+), in the original    expression of signs is necessary to give rise to (0 + 0), is greater".
 
 (Note: Can you see now, what happens inside a bifilar, counterwound coil? Or, what Tom Bearden is communicating? If your thinking that neutral nothing is called scalar, your thinking correctly. And if you counterwind 2 pure scalar potentials against each other, will you get an even higher form of energy? And what higher energy would we get if we opposed two products of two scalar cancellations? Thats called phase conjugating them so they also cancel, but, I would wear my safety glasses if I were you. I would also wear heavy armor!).
 
 "That is, what is communicated may depend upon what is 50%    redundant and what is not. Perhaps 'mammon' cannot communicate   itself as it truly is because its real nature is hidden behind a    redundancy of neutral energy which is all it can communicate".
 
 "2 cannot be a mirror image of 3 nor can the negative force be equal   to the positive force. Asymmetry is the basis of opposites. Positive   is the more. One aspect of positive force arises through the division   of a negative matrix (field). But in universe, a negative aspect is   more apparent".
 
   
 
 "1" is not a number, 1 is the measure of number. Thus,
 "2" would be the measure number of negative energy, the lesser, and,
 "3" would be the measure number of positive energy, the greater".
 
 "If opposite types of energy (3 / 2 x 2 / 3) are related to "1' whole, it   must begin by relating them to the least neutral particle (the    neutrino: an indestructible union of positive/negative energy). Its opposite force must be seen as (3+) aspects engaging
 (2-) aspects to give (5) upon which (1) operates. It is self-   conserving. This "iota" of energy (3/2) is neutral, and within it the   positive outweighs the negative. 3 / 2 x 2 / 3 says there is no simple   "1" in manifestation. There is "1" and "1" .
 
 "2 arrangements of positive / negative energy". As B. Fuller would say,   "AAB and ABB modules", giving rise to 2 kinds of neutrinos".
 
 
   
 
 "The secrets hidden from the foundation of the world", (a bible    quote), may be:
 
  Manifest positive energy outweighs the negative energy.

 Space, which appears negative in its "non-being" is actually     positive-being, so that space repels and thus supports     manifest energy within it which (energy) can operate only upon   the matrix (field).

 Within the whole (macro or micro), positive-being outweighs    (outmeasures) negative-being therefore,

 A. neither matrix (field) energy nor manifest energy can      completely occupy space.
 
 B. and matter in ground state cannot communicate positive-being,
 
 C. matrix (field) energy cannot communicate as negative-being    because
 
 D. each type being is redundant only in terms of neutral      energy".
 
 
 Shining Stranger
 By Harold
 232. H23

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« Reply #7445 on: November 04, 2016, 12:23:08 PM »



@Meta - This is a fantastic post!

There is a ton of data in there, I had to read a few times to absorb it.

Yes Tom Bearden has tried to tell us this also. I also think we have been very much more advanced at a much earlier time in our history. At least we had gained a knowledge that we are only just grasping now.

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« Reply #7446 on: November 06, 2016, 10:22:50 AM »
Hey Wistiti and all.
I have been doing several setups using cores and without.
Without cores is more triky than I thought.. there are coupling problems. (but the gain effect exist)
The last days I testing setups with cores.. trying to understand few things.


I wanted to show you a setup to see the switching using cores.  Its a 3 core setup secondaries are at center (poc) and the two primaries with separate cores (the one has magnet on it.. it raise the gain)
if you are interested I will make a detail drawing for you.

I don't know if you will understand much, anything you want me to test on it, or anything else, just tell me.

As you see in the video the small c core can switch the load and the gain effect. Forgive me for not have oscilloscope readings etc, I still waiting for them :( Ordered all from China :(

Anyway measuring the battery output,
the current without load is ~0.23A,
with load (220V mains small led bulb) is ~0.13A (good britness) I got very very nasty kick also from output :(

Voltage accross battery:
battery alone 3.92 Volt
on circuit with load 3.90 Volt,
on circuit without load 3.85 Volt

So the gain with load is ~43%

I'll be around..

https://youtu.be/EZeePXIPqi4

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« Reply #7447 on: November 07, 2016, 12:06:22 PM »
I had an idea of testing an extra coil fitted at secondary's core to boost the current. that coil is earhted from one side.. the circuitry is slightly different, the other side of the extra coil goes to the common wire of the secondaries.. I forgot to say that the secondaries are in series this time ...and also the secondary's core is open (half U ferite).

The problem with my setup is that is totally mess and sometimes drives me crazy trying to find a bad connected crocodile etc.

Anyway

the current with load goes from 0 to -0.05A (very bright) (this time I put a higher wattage led bulb)
without load (the green crocodile clip) its 0.23A
without the earth (the red crocodile clip) the current goes to 0.18A. (the light stays on)

I don't know what to say!!! That is really crazy, or the multimeter show wrong, or that is a way to use energy from earth in the system..??!!??  tell me if you know..

Actually the leads of multimeter are oposite (i realised that after the video) and with load and grounded shows from 0 to 0.05A instead of -0.05A .. What is that mean?? excess current going back?? I need your help team here ???

https://youtu.be/8EfiSPY-XhI

When I disconnect the ground the current climb to 0.18A from 0 to -0.5A when its connected (and I can't see any change in brightness) ;)
I will stick to this setup and stop testing others.. This looks very interesting..

I will make a clean circuit and setup and I ll be back..
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 04:52:53 PM by l0stf0x »

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« Reply #7448 on: November 07, 2016, 03:19:48 PM »
Wow!
Really great result Lostfox!!!
I dont know why but it seem you have some power reflect back to the primary... Mabe some more experimented people can say why it happen...
Anyway, it is a real pleasure to see your progress with the POC!

how goes your batt voltage with this setup?
I would like to reproduce but im not quite sure how it is made; specifically the core part...

Thank again for sharing!
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« Reply #7449 on: November 07, 2016, 04:51:54 PM »
Wow!
Really great result Lostfox!!!
I dont know why but it seem you have some power reflect back to the primary... Mabe some more experimented people can say why it happen...
Anyway, it is a real pleasure to see your progress with the POC!

how goes your batt voltage with this setup?
I would like to reproduce but im not quite sure how it is made; specifically the core part...

Thank again for sharing!
 :) :) :)

Voltage reading go funny up and down :(
I removed the circuit because is wrong... I will post a new one twomorow.
I believe my multimeter go crazy when measuring this circuit..but anyway i ll do more twomorow.

Welcome Wistiti.. Don't worry I will post construction details.. just let me make sure that its proper gain and not multimeter error first. :)

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« Reply #7450 on: November 08, 2016, 01:15:04 AM »
Hi, All
I found this article to be interesting. It contains bucking coils for input or output. And there is another winding L3 for short pulses modulation. It says it uses parametric method. The link is here and I hope it helps somehow.

http://gorchilin.com/articles/experiment/parametric?lang=en

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« Reply #7451 on: November 08, 2016, 04:43:02 AM »
In properly wound coils (2) you will have a reading of 0, which is what you want.

You may also wind both bucking coils on one spool. Its called a Caduceus Coil.

You are very close to finding the gravitic, now.

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« Reply #7452 on: November 08, 2016, 11:42:31 AM »
@steadyfield, Thank you for that circuit! it may give ideas!

@ Wistiti
 I need to do more to clear up what is going on.. I realized that the earth connection acts funny in other coils as well.. So this needs work first. But ones you make the transformer then you can experiment by your self. :) After all the main work that I have done until now was only at the transformer. The earth combining was just an idea out of the schedule.

So lets forget the -0.05A at the moment and concentrate at the 0.13A from 0.23A thats a gain 43% in test1 which is not bad at all as a start.. and its clear and steady and repeatable.

I include a disassemble video showing how its made.. its very simple actually. All you need is the cores from 3 flybacks from old tvs.

I had 3 sizes of them, but 2 of them are not the same with their pairs. Any way play with the sizes if you can.

But I suggest the larger core to be placed on the side without primary, only secondaries will use it
The other 2 smaller cores will have the primaries each.

Why we use 3 cores? It looks like that the secondaries need their own core and primaries also. I never had so good results using 1 or 2 cores (flux conflict). (Actually I got a better core/coil arrangement in my mind which I will build next). But for now, the known setup is cheaper, easier, faster to replicate, and with good results. :)

The coils either primaries or secondaries may need to be flipped over for the circuit to work.
You may also need to swap cables of primaries too.

The magnet works only if you stick it the right orientation/polarity on the one particular primary's core only (it will not work on the other primary's core, you will find out playing... you will find the way by looking at current reading as you play with it).

You will get different gain if you use different size half cores. Test what you have. In test1 I used this little half core to close the loop at the one primary's core. I had worst results with bigger size. So this need testing.

My primaries coils are taken from small mains transformers.. are different in sizes as you can see at the video but I balance their inductance before i tape them so to be magnetically equal.

As you see at the video the extra coil is not connected to anywhere but its position on core have role.
If you don't want to use the extra coil... just close the loop of core with the ferrite and use the small half ferrite (as in test1 video) at the one primary... the one with no magnet on its core.

The secondaries are wounded on 3 batteries as I show in video.. 75 turns each as I remember and can be connected either in series or in parallel with the load. In my case its in series. Add more turns if you can. My next setup will have much more turns. You may raise the output voltage but you raise the gain effect as well. At least that is what I understand so far on that part. Secondaries has to be strong electromagnets too to raise the gain. Unfortunately all limits in coils sizes depends from the core sizes.

The purpose of having all coils and cores separate and mobile is for easier moving and testing.

That's all at the moment...

Here a helping drawing and a disassemble Video.

https://youtu.be/rnZfULccP9Y

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« Reply #7453 on: November 09, 2016, 02:10:58 AM »



Quote from: Peter Lindemann

To Everyone,

 It is with the deepest sorrow that I have to announce the sudden and unexpected Death of John Bedini today (Saturday, November 5, 2016). Those of us who knew him well are without words at this time. Anyone who would like to leave a comment here about this truly brilliant and generous Soul, please do.

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A Tribute to John Bedini:

I never met John Bedini, although it feels like I did. We exchanged a few E-Mails many years back. In my research and investigations into the Floyd Sweet VTA, it felt like I got to know him. I am in shock, John was a man that influenced more human beings than any other I know. John, you’re an Inspiration to all who knew you and know of your work.

Thank You for all you have done!


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« Reply #7454 on: November 09, 2016, 02:58:30 AM »



@L0stf0x,

Fantastic Work!!!

Thanks for sharing and showing how easy this really is! Building and Fiddling, making observations, simple ones, nothing needs to be complicated and you have done an excellent job at showing this! Thank You!!!

Your observations are correct, re the Magnet and adding energy to the System:


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To provide a means of capturing more incoherent quanta to complement the existing integrated flux densities and BHc or energy product. More feedback in the form of volt-ampere product at a cos of = 1 or unity of watts in the form of D.C. potential.

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The flux produced by the moving charges comprising the load current goes through zero, thus the complimentary flux, that is integrated with the coherent flux, aiding the cross flux between the attracting magnets.





Floyd Sweet gave us a very good analogy regarding this phenomena:



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How does the Space Flux Coupled Alternator appear to operate beyond unity? An approximate analogy, not by any means perfect, is as follows:

Picture a side-wheel paddle steam boat making its way down stream in the same direction as a fairly strong tidal flow. Assume the steam engine to be highly efficient, say 80%. Now assume the engine to be working at this efficiency and that the tidal energy integrates with that of the engine in propelling the ship. The acceleration increases to a point where the horsepower increases beyond that equivalent energy consumed by the engine. If one were not aware of the tidal flow energy integrated with that of the consumed energy, one would conclude the engine efficiency was greater than unity. This is hypothetical. As the momentum of the tide relates only to the mass of the steamboat’s displacement of the medium, water. Actually if the forward momentum of the tide was able to relate only to the paddle wheel the forward or positive force would tend to force the wheel to turn in the opposite or negative direction.

Then in the hypothetical case, the force of the tide on the mass of the ship would equal the force acting on the paddle wheel and the ship would be motionless. In order to move in the forward direction, the engine would need to overcome the negative force of the tide on the wheel. Little engine HP would be needed, as it would integrate with the positive flow of the tide, acting on the displacement mass of the ship. The above is not achievable in practice, as the only way the tide could relate to the paddle wheel in such a manner, the mass of the ship would have to be completely out of the water and only the wheel within the flow of the tide would turn, as the momentum of the flow of the tide would not be in effect. This is reactive power – no work is done. The wheel turns but the ship is motionless. Conversely, if this were a possibility, then a ship moving against a strong tide, would be able to traverse a river without either engine of sail, by means of the force of a moving mass of water against the wheel paddles. As stated, the force of the mass of water flowing against the displacement mass of the ship predominantly opposes the positive motion of the ship. The analogy though far from perfect, suggests that if one were not aware of the visible force acting on the movement of the ship, at times, assuming all parameters were measurable, the indication might be that the engine was capable of greater than unity efficiency.




The Flux from the Permanent Magnet does Integrate with the Coils we are working with as is mentioned. This inturn increases the Output, as Floyd Sweet puts it: "thus the complimentary flux, that is integrated with the coherent flux, aiding the cross flux between the attracting magnets".

You have shown this to the world, in your experiment's, well done!


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