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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7215 on: September 09, 2016, 01:44:15 PM »
Each one in this world,who is using capacitors/condensators for the secondary output is using this "partnered coil" principle cause capacitors can also be configurated as bi-up to multifiliar coils !


"partnered coil" let some remember of Earl Koenig ::)  misinterpretationaly
Oh,I see here that he is also refered: http://www.hyiq.org/downloads/guidelines%20to%20Bucking%20Coils.pdf


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7215 on: September 09, 2016, 01:44:15 PM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7216 on: September 09, 2016, 01:58:12 PM »
Each one in this world,who is using capacitors/condensators for the secondary output is using this "partnered coil" principle cause capacitors can also be configurated as bi-up to multifiliar coils !


"partnered coil" let some remeber of Earl Koenig ::)  misinterpretationaly




lancaIV - Earl Koenig deserves credit for his patented devices! Weather you think it is "misinterpretationaly" or not.

Your Capacitor thoughts are null and void, don’t apply and are completely irrelevant!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7217 on: September 09, 2016, 02:02:26 PM »
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=DE&NR=19927355A1&KC=A1&FT=D


We are developing the converter of Maxwells displacement current ,as you probably know !


The magnetic output of partnered coils,and the f.e.:


Each coil (5) (6) is performed in a carriage with nucleus of cylindrical or rectangular (15) shape, air nucleus, and two lateral covers. The coil system(16) consists of two copper tapes, separated by a dielectric of macrofol, " an insulator tape". They are simultaneously rolled up m 397 spires where are connected, in upper extremity of one of the tapes a feed cable and m the lower extremity of the other tape another feed cable. Closed the coiled process is vulcanized with epoxide resin, which gives mechanical resistance, insulation and allows its utilization m high humidity level. After this phase, a paramagnetic ( 17) nucleus is inserted inside the coil where the upper side has a width equal to the general body and the other extremity is screwed down to allow its fixing. All this system is controlled by a module that allows the variation of the polarization, constructed with materials and components existing on the market and already attested. The conjugation of several potentialities and applications of these components allow it a believable and linear behaviour in the control of the referred system. The technical range of this system stands in the present electromagnetic spectre, nevertheless is different owing the coils not having a standard behaviour in relation to the power consumption, they have not internal resistance, placing several questions of theoretical quality: According to the ohm's formula R=V/ I. With R=O and having a tension V on the coil, appear us the first theoretical difficulty to solve this equation, impossibility or irresolution. According to the Joule's formula w=I<2>xR, appears the same impossibility. According to Weber's formula Um= ψxRm we see that the magnetic tension (Um) is the result of the multiplication of phi (φ) by the reluctance (Rm) . We go on with the same impossibility. According to Lenz's formula Δ(cosψ)/Δt we obtain that the induced electro-motive power (Ei) is the result of the division of the rate of the cosine of phi (Δcosφ) by time variation. As cosine of phi is equal to zero, the irresolution is maintained. In practice submitted to several measures and tests we obtained a residual power consumption of 6 mA resulting more from cable feed then coil power consumption. The value of phi (ψ) stands unaltered and equal to zero. Practical situation without theoretical justification known. ;)


The system, owing to the fact of producing mechanical energy, apply to all the mechanisms that need it, namely collecting water, water pumps, apply also to raising systems, centrifugal engines and pumps, etc.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7218 on: September 09, 2016, 03:01:52 PM »
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=DE&NR=19927355A1&KC=A1&FT=D


We are developing the converter of Maxwells displacement current ,as you probably know !


The magnetic output of partnered coils,and the f.e.:


Each coil (5) (6) is performed in a carriage with nucleus of cylindrical or rectangular (15) shape, air nucleus, and two lateral covers. The coil system(16) consists of two copper tapes, separated by a dielectric of macrofol, " an insulator tape". They are simultaneously rolled up m 397 spires where are connected, in upper extremity of one of the tapes a feed cable and m the lower extremity of the other tape another feed cable. Closed the coiled process is vulcanized with epoxide resin, which gives mechanical resistance, insulation and allows its utilization m high humidity level. After this phase, a paramagnetic ( 17) nucleus is inserted inside the coil where the upper side has a width equal to the general body and the other extremity is screwed down to allow its fixing. All this system is controlled by a module that allows the variation of the polarization, constructed with materials and components existing on the market and already attested. The conjugation of several potentialities and applications of these components allow it a believable and linear behaviour in the control of the referred system. The technical range of this system stands in the present electromagnetic spectre, nevertheless is different owing the coils not having a standard behaviour in relation to the power consumption, they have not internal resistance, placing several questions of theoretical quality: According to the ohm's formula R=V/ I. With R=O and having a tension V on the coil, appear us the first theoretical difficulty to solve this equation, impossibility or irresolution. According to the Joule's formula w=I<2>xR, appears the same impossibility. According to Weber's formula Um= ψxRm we see that the magnetic tension (Um) is the result of the multiplication of phi (φ) by the reluctance (Rm) . We go on with the same impossibility. According to Lenz's formula Δ(cosψ)/Δt we obtain that the induced electro-motive power (Ei) is the result of the division of the rate of the cosine of phi (Δcosφ) by time variation. As cosine of phi is equal to zero, the irresolution is maintained. In practice submitted to several measures and tests we obtained a residual power consumption of 6 mA resulting more from cable feed then coil power consumption. The value of phi (ψ) stands unaltered and equal to zero. Practical situation without theoretical justification known. ;)


The system, owing to the fact of producing mechanical energy, apply to all the mechanisms that need it, namely collecting water, water pumps, apply also to raising systems, centrifugal engines and pumps, etc.




Thanks lancaIV!

A very interesting post! I will read several times and try to better understand.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7219 on: September 09, 2016, 03:27:37 PM »
http://servicosonline.inpi.pt/pesquisas/GetSintesePDF?nord=2946450
these coils as electro-magnets on a rotor/stator structure has been examinated and the technology became granted 26.10.2009,but the commercial patent right got lost.
Now "open source".


Who can justify the physical/kinetical practisizing in theoretical manner get the prize !

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7220 on: September 09, 2016, 03:45:49 PM »



@Chet - I would like to remind you: Page 5 of this thread





I am not going down the "Measurement" path - Bill Alek a qualified EE has been ridiculed without any evidence to the contrary. My measurements are not up for debate here.

I am giving people the How's, Why's and the Secrets to build their own Devices. Its up to them to make their own decisions.

I encourage people to use their Common Sense and decide for themselves if this device makes sense and is worth the 1hr and $20:00 to Build and Learn.




@Partzman - Did your device cost much more than $20.00 - Below:


Graham Gunderson used very expensive Equipment, Equipment I don’t have. Graham also is very well trained on how to use his equipment - Are you ridiculing Grahams Measurements?


Partnered Output Coils will forever haunt you Chet. They are not going away! We have successes and you cant deny this!!!


@lancaIV - Thanks Interesting Patent App.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7221 on: September 09, 2016, 04:36:11 PM »
Chris
Sorry for the delay

You seem to be involved or trying to involve yourself in a lot of business ...
 "I was first "!! "I have the paper trail "!! "he was no where until I came along"" ETC EYTC ETC 

,I suppose this would be called Free energy business ,?

I am not involved in these types of things ..never have and never will I put business in front of this cause!

You say you do this all these years "for the next generation" ??

It would seem you are much more concerned with Business than the next generation or your head would not hit the pillow at night for the loss of one "next generation[Child]" which such a tech would truly save !

how many more years will you fiddle ?
and how many more "for the next generation" must pass from this world ??

yours is the only continuously running "show" hosted by the Claimant [POC] at this open source forum , a place where many truly are working for open source and truly have the "Next generation" in mind.[Not book sales or micro managing Free energy to the Paying Customers in small drips]

what is your true goal here ?
how many more "next generations {KIDS}" must perish ??

you must realize the true "price" of withholding such a tech from the world ,as well as how it would be if your
"next generations" life depended on a tech like this  and some man claiming to have the ability to save their lives was fiddling with it for years and years at an open source forum ....

and just for clarity
the Only thing which would "Haunt Me" would be your example set here.

@ Lanca
I see your contributions here show the truth worthlessness of NEW Business ventures in these matters .




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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7222 on: September 09, 2016, 04:45:24 PM »

This double coil arrangement
(Andreas Schenk was also in a commercial partnership with Dr.Imris: Hydrotech )
and the application partners,f.e. Fraunhofer Ges., shows the development stage from this technology :
  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110119&CC=EP&NR=2274755A1&KC=A1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7223 on: September 09, 2016, 05:02:25 PM »
Chris
Sorry for the delay

You seem to be involved or trying to involve yourself in a lot of business ...
 "I was first "!! "I have the paper trail "!! "he was no where until I came along"" ETC EYTC ETC 

,I suppose this would be called Free energy business ,?

I am not involved in these types of things ..never have and never will I put business in front of this cause!

You say you do this all these years "for the next generation" ??

It would seem you are much more concerned with Business than the next generation or your head would not hit the pillow at night for the loss of one "next generation[Child]" which such a tech would truly save !

how many more years will you fiddle ?
and how many more "for the next generation" must pass from this world ??

yours is the only continuously running "show" hosted by the Claimant [POC] at this open source forum , a place where many truly are working for open source and truly have the "Next generation" in mind.[Not book sales or micro managing Free energy to the Customers in small drips]

what is your true goal here ?
how many more "next generations {KIDS}" must perish ??

you must realize the true "price" of withholding such a tech from the world ?




Hi Chet - What is your true goal here?


Dont tell me, youve failed to replicate the Graham Gunderson Device!!!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7223 on: September 09, 2016, 05:02:25 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7224 on: September 09, 2016, 05:08:27 PM »
Good to Know
RE the Gunderson device
that is an ongoing [just got started} open source thread here at this open source forum [only two of those forums I am aware of]
will add a link for you later
for clarity
That example would represent My goal here at these open source forums.

But you forgot this part

Snip
?and just for clarity
the Only thing which would "Haunt Me" would be your example set here."

And yes Chris I know
"it all looks good from your house"...has for years and years...

Sleep well .......

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7225 on: September 09, 2016, 05:20:54 PM »
Good to Know
RE the Gunderson device
that is an ongoing [just got started} open source thread here at this open source forum [only two of those I am aware of]
will add a link for you later

But you forgot this part

Snip
?and just for clarity
the Only thing which would "Haunt Me" would be your example set here."

And yes Chris I know
"it all looks good from your house"...has for years and years...

Sleep well .......



Chet - You’re really kidding yourself!!!

Last year: http://grahamgunderson.com/ nothing there, This year Nothing there... 10 years from now still nothing there...

Six weeks ago: http://perpetua.green/?reqp=1&reqr nothing there, Tomorrow, still nothing there, 10 years’ time, still nothing there...

Open Source my Horse!!! They got your $25, now its Tomato Sauce!!!


Chet, face facts, I have given all, all you need to do is, Learn it, put it together and build it. I have spent some 30,000+ hours trying to help people here, and doing graphics and documents and so on. My website has been running for some 15 odd years with a thousand times the hours’ worth of content on it.


I have given you all that you need; now it needs you to put it together!!!


I have never asked for anything!!! I don’t want anything!!!


Actually, that’s not true, what I want, is for all of you to get into it, share work, progress, get off your dammed high horse and work together!!!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7226 on: September 09, 2016, 05:36:27 PM »
Chris
I am not here to count the hours spent by you..myself or many others to Justify a lifes work.
or weigh the return on investment for you.
Grandma worked fifty years scrubbing dishes at a big factory In NYC and got a "watch' for her reward.


I know time is a commodity which comes at a cost ,and as such wasting a mans time also has a cost.

in this case the cost for withholding these techs or hindering them in any way whatsoever for any reason
comes at a great price.

The next generation[children] does indeed depend on this and to say you are not aware people are dying without it ..is very very hard to believe.

You are the man running THIS show and You are responsible for your actions here.

respectfully
Chet K
ps
here is a link to the open source Gunderson Thread
an example of my goal here
http://overunity.com/16724/graham-gundersons-energy-conference-presentation-most-impressive-and-mysterious/#.V9LThnz6tdg

No business's  books or DVD's and such ..just the hard work of dedicated men looking for answers.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7227 on: September 09, 2016, 05:44:35 PM »
Chris
I am not here to count the hours spent by you..myself or many others to Justify a lifes work.
or weigh the return on investment for you.
Grandma worked fifty years scrubbing dishes at a big factory In NYC and got a "watch' for her reward.


I know time is a commodity which comes at a cost ,and as such wasting a mans time also has a cost.

in this case the cost for withholding these techs or hindering them in any way whatsoever for any reason
comes at a great price.

The next generation[children] does indeed depend on this and to say you are not aware people are dying without it ..is very very hard to believe.

You are the man running THIS show and You are responsible for your actions here.

respectfully
Chet K
ps
here is a link to the open source Gunderson Thread
an example of my goal here
http://overunity.com/16724/graham-gundersons-energy-conference-presentation-most-impressive-and-mysterious/#.V9LThnz6tdg

No books or DVD's and such ..just the hard work of dedicated men looking for answers.



Oh My Chet - That is classically funny!!!

Where is Graham Gunderson? Has he made a single post trying to help anyone out?

Chet, I have not and am not withholding anything! I have given you all! I have told you, shown you exactly how these devices work!

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P.S: If you actually read the thread, it is I that have given you most of the hard facts known today about the Gunderson Device!!! Well before anyone else even had the slightest on what was going on!!! I was asked to leave by Reyeuki because My work did not fit with what you wanted to hear!!!




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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7228 on: September 09, 2016, 05:51:43 PM »
another good thing to know
you find the plight of your target benevolence  [the next generation] 'classically funny' !!

sleep tight

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7229 on: September 09, 2016, 05:55:43 PM »
another good thing to know
you find the plight of your target benevolence  [the next generation] 'classically funny' !!

sleep tight



I dont make the Bombs that Kill em Chet, if I had my way you guys wouldnt either!!!

There is no joke about murder!!! It is sad that you try to make it sound that way!

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