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digitalindustry · « **Reply #6285 on:** December 02, 2015, 01:35:46 PM »

Quote from: tinman on December 02, 2015, 08:30:27 AM

http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/1dbd/

this is the part i'm missing to complete my ship.

my mission on this planet is complete.

standby by for termination.

: D

digitalindustry · « **Reply #6286 on:** December 02, 2015, 01:47:07 PM »

Quote from: EMJunkie on December 02, 2015, 07:24:11 AM

@Digital,

If you would like some advice, before you build anything at all, I suggest you study in detail How and Why an Electric "Generator" Works. This knowledge will be the most useful information you can obtain. Perhaps in your entire life.

An Inventor once said:

I can not stress this enough! Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion!!!

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

Thank you for this advice i always take good advice -

i'm the 'Build it and if the explosion doesn't kill you, you will learn' type.

agreed , as TM stated we see this 'trend' in nature we'd be silly to ignore nature.

i've even seen a permanent magnet more or less 'portrayed' as so many spinning vortexes. (dynamo's)

I agree with your sense of urgency, (i think it is warranted as i've stated) however my study of this place doesn't warrant probably the same outcomes. we may or may not disagree.

for that you may need a larger set of information, but you can/will gain that in time like anything.

digitalindustry · « **Reply #6287 on:** December 02, 2015, 01:52:42 PM »

Quote from: EMJunkie on December 02, 2015, 09:04:23 AM

yes, you see the point I was making.

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

isn't it not the case that with many of these various devices, such as the 'Akula' and the "Barbarossa Leal' 'Don smith' in essence it is using the 'Earth' as the other capacitance plate thus providing that 'disruption'?

this seems rather reasonable especially considering the Barbosa Leal device functions at 50/60Hz

tinman · « **Reply #6288 on:** December 02, 2015, 02:32:22 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2015, 08:30:29 AM

And yet... the people who believe, and calculate, that the Earth _does_ orbit the sun are able to land robot spacecraft on other planets and moons many many millions of miles away after years of travel along complicated paths, even sending photographs back from Pluto... they can calculate where those moons and planets will be many years in advance and can navigate their remote-controlled vessels to just those places and times.

Meanwhile the folks that don't believe the Earth orbits the sun are doing.... what, exactly?

Relativity, and the choice of an appropriate frame of reference for the task at hand, are important.

Who said they use orbital calculations ?. Have you worked at NASA?. You are confusing planet positions with orbital calculations.
Take a tennis ball in one hand(the sun),and take a golf ball in the other hand(the earth). Now,while walking across the backyard (space)hold the tennis ball(our sun) up in the air,and then take the golf ball(our earth),and rotate that around the tennis ball while you are walking across the back yard. Then draw the path the golf ball took--do you come up with an orbital path,or do you come up with a helical path?.

The fact is,you cannot orbit a moving body,and our sun is moving through space. The only path the earth and other planets take in relation to the sun is a helical path. Space craft trajectories are based around planet position to the sun,gravitational forces,ETC,-not around there orbital path in relation to the sun.

Watch the video below,and then you'll be full bottles on our path through our galaxy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws

digitalindustry · « **Reply #6289 on:** December 02, 2015, 02:49:13 PM »

Quote from: tinman on December 02, 2015, 01:42:46 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lgkl2EEsVk

just watching this now 1997 hey?

makes you think doesn't it.....

anyone got any theories on what went wrong?

hey Tinman is that your flat Aubry accent i hear? ha ha

you developed this didn't you? you are a time traveling reptilian. sent to bring us the magic of electricity.

Look a flux capacitor !

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details of this experiment:

for any keen experimenters out there.

- this is just a coil wound in 4 segments (like Lucs two)

- each segment is wound opposing to the other, i.e 'left to right' or 'inside to outside' (however you like to say it)

- and they are connected serial with a cap (polarized in this case) in-between.

- the reason there are 3 caps connected is (obvious because the two wires leading out of the coil are the 'neg and positive' which would then possibly connect to another cap in a resonate circuit ( haven't go that far)

- in essence i suppose you could say this is a 4` 'series LC tank circuits' connected into a coil with a common core. (straight powdered Fe)

- caps are 100uf
- each segment is about 70 micro h only.

maybe caps are too large will experiment.

other things that could be done, experiment with parallel in the same or similar design, many other things.

EMJunkie · « **Reply #6290 on:** December 02, 2015, 10:12:14 PM »

Quote from: tinman on December 02, 2015, 02:32:22 PM

Who said they use orbital calculations ?. Have you worked at NASA?. You are confusing planet positions with orbital calculations.
Take a tennis ball in one hand(the sun),and take a golf ball in the other hand(the earth). Now,while walking across the backyard (space)hold the tennis ball(our sun) up in the air,and then take the golf ball(our earth),and rotate that around the tennis ball while you are walking across the back yard. Then draw the path the golf ball took--do you come up with an orbital path,or do you come up with a helical path?.

The fact is,you cannot orbit a moving body,and our sun is moving through space. The only path the earth and other planets take in relation to the sun is a helical path. Space craft trajectories are based around planet position to the sun,gravitational forces,ETC,-not around there orbital path in relation to the sun.

Watch the video below,and then you'll be full bottles on our path through our galaxy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws

Its been recently shown that the Value of PI is not correct, this means that NASA Would miss nearly every trajectory they ever calculated if they were using Orbital Calculations using the incorrect Value of PI!

So, someone has been duped, we are all being led astray, thoughts and inceptions being misguided! You are not who you thought you were and we are all living a lie... That is if you believe all you are told without questioning it!!!

Ref: The Great Pi Conspiracy

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

EMJunkie · « **Reply #6291 on:** December 02, 2015, 10:37:26 PM »

Re: our "Study of the Dynamo":

I thought this would be interesting to share: Invention of the Dynamo

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

EMJunkie · « **Reply #6292 on:** December 02, 2015, 11:06:33 PM »

What beautiful Machinery!!!

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

TinselKoala · « **Reply #6293 on:** December 02, 2015, 11:57:03 PM »

Quote from: tinman on December 02, 2015, 02:32:22 PM

Who said they use orbital calculations ?. Have you worked at NASA?. You are confusing planet positions with orbital calculations.
Take a tennis ball in one hand(the sun),and take a golf ball in the other hand(the earth). Now,while walking across the backyard (space)hold the tennis ball(our sun) up in the air,and then take the golf ball(our earth),and rotate that around the tennis ball while you are walking across the back yard. Then draw the path the golf ball took--do you come up with an orbital path,or do you come up with a helical path?.

The fact is,you cannot orbit a moving body,and our sun is moving through space. The only path the earth and other planets take in relation to the sun is a helical path. Space craft trajectories are based around planet position to the sun,gravitational forces,ETC,-not around there orbital path in relation to the sun.

Watch the video below,and then you'll be full bottles on our path through our galaxy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws

No, I'm not the one who is confused. Planet positions are indeed calculated from orbital dynamics. No, I don't work at NASA but I know people who do and am in frequent contact with some of them. In fact I got started in this field while working _for_ a senior scientist at NASA Ames. And I'm an amateur astronomer, with a telescope mount that can find and track objects in the sky based on _orbital dynamics_.
Yes, it is perfectly clear that if you adopt some reference frame that is somehow stationary with respect to the entire solar system's movement through galactic space, the paths of the planets, etc. will describe a helix _as seen from that arbitrary stationary reference point_. So what? You are just confusing _yourself_ if you think that that means that planets and satellites etc. aren't orbiting. If you want, you can choose a reference frame that seems utterly motionless, like Ptolemy or Copernicus did, and make up all kinds of epicycles that then describe the observed motions, just like your helix does from your chosen arbitrary reference frame outside the solar system. Sometimes I think you just enjoy doing the wind-up, even though there are myriad demonstrations all around you that show that you are actually wrong, and the real scientists who deal in such matters every day with success would just laugh at you. There are literally thousands of satellites up there that are placed in orbits around the Earth by people who understand orbital dynamics and who would just shake their heads and laugh at your misconceptions. "Not even wrong" is the phrase that applies here, since you are right about your helixes but are wrong that that idea is particularly useful or that it supplants the conventional idea of orbits. You are choosing to focus on one arbitrary reference frame that is less useful and more complicated than the reference frame that is more commonly used, and is more useful, for actual things like navigation of spacecraft, descriptions of planetary positions and so on. And I think you are doing it just for the sake of argument, since you surely know the facts of the matter.
Like this claim that pi has some other value than 3.14159.... etc. It's just a silly windup, unsupported by actual data from the real world and refuted by devices and systems that are in daily use all around you. Like the internet itself, and the computer you are using to read this post, and the machines that built the tiny components within it for examples.

tinman · « **Reply #6294 on:** December 03, 2015, 01:16:33 AM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2015, 11:57:03 PM

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And I'm an amateur astronomer, with a telescope mount that can find and track objects in the sky based on _orbital dynamics_.

As am i. I too have a go to/ tracking scope(4 inch),and a dob 10 inch.

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No, I'm not the one who is confused. Planet positions are indeed calculated from orbital dynamics. No, I don't work at NASA but I know people who do and am in frequent contact with some of them. In fact I got started in this field while working _for_ a senior scientist at NASA Ames.
Yes, it is perfectly clear that if you adopt some reference frame that is somehow stationary with respect to the entire solar system's movement through galactic space, the paths of the planets, etc. will describe a helix _as seen from that arbitrary stationary reference point_. So what?

So what

If you want to know the motion of celestial objects through space,then the correct view point is from a fixed point in space-not aboard one of those celestial objects that is moving along with the rest of them. Being an amateur astronomer,this is something i thought you would know.

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Sometimes I think you just enjoy doing the wind-up, even though there are myriad demonstrations all around you that show that you are actually wrong, and the real scientists who deal in such matters every day with success would just laugh at you.

There is no proof what so ever that shows that i am wrong when i say the earth dose not orbit the sun. What there is,is proof in the very science you love,that says i am correct. The fact remains-you !!cannot!! orbit a moving body,where as that orbit is taught and shown that the earth will rotate around our sun,complete 1 orbit per year,and end up back where it started. The same applies to the moon in relation to the earth.

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There are literally thousands of satellites up there that are placed in orbits around the Earth by people who understand orbital dynamics and who would just shake their heads and laugh at your misconceptions.

And how are they misconceptions TK. Are you really saying that we just complete a full circle around the sun every year,and we end up right back where we started from?. The only misconception here is what we are taught in school about the orbits of the planets around the sun. Do you really think that the path of those satellites is an orbital path around the earth?. Are you one that would try and measure(say by radar gun) the speed a ball is traveling while in a vehicle that is traveling down the road-from within the vehicle it self? Those that understand orbital dynamics do nothing more than just measure the speed the vehicle is traveling to obtain the speed the ball is traveling. I guess sometimes they just dont get it right,where many times we see satellites falling into a decaying orbit,and come crashing back down to earth,or shooting off into the neva neva.

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"Not even wrong" is the phrase that applies here, since you are right about your helixes but are wrong that that idea is particularly useful or that it supplants the conventional idea of orbits. You are choosing to focus on one arbitrary reference frame that is less useful and more complicated than the reference frame that is more commonly used, and is more useful, for actual things like navigation of spacecraft, descriptions of planetary positions and so on. And I think you are doing it just for the sake of argument, since you surely know the facts of the matter.

So we should just stick to the-!!near enough is good enough! ,rather than use what we know to be true.

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Like this claim that pi has some other value than 3.14159.... etc. It's just a silly windup, unsupported by actual data from the real world and refuted by devices and systems that are in daily use all around you. Like the internet itself, and the computer you are using to read this post, and the machines that built the tiny components within it for examples.

Sounds much like the magnetic force syndrome to me. We know how to use magnetic fields so as they work how we want them to work in all our electronic product's,so why the hell do we need to know what the magnetic force actually is. This is a !go no where! attitude TK,and leeds you up a circular garden path,where you really end up going back to where you started-->oh look,and orbit lol.

EMJunkie · « **Reply #6295 on:** December 03, 2015, 02:13:43 AM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 02, 2015, 11:57:03 PM

Like this claim that pi has some other value than 3.14159.... etc. It's just a silly windup, unsupported by actual data from the real world and refuted by devices and systems that are in daily use all around you.

Right here we see the words of a Fool!

Obviously this is a complete and utter rambunctious Non-Sensical piffle that the mind of a Fool would spout with out doing a single bit of research!!!

Do the research:

http://www.math.utah.edu/~palais/pi.pdf
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/let-s-use-tau-it-s-easier-than-pi/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2008963/Why-mathematicians-campaigning-pi-replaced-alternate-value-tau.html
http://www.livescience.com/14836-pi-wrong-tau.html
http://goodmath.scientopia.org/2010/12/08/really-is-wrong/

Surely anyone that can read, can understand, can do their own bit of Research and see the many millions of pages of discussion on how to fix this problem would see that the evidence is: PI is Wrong!

Experimental proof was provided in the first article I referenced: Ref: The Great Pi Conspiracy

To dispute any such data provided is the work of a FOOL - TK youre a total brainless FOOL!!!

Nothing can help you or save you from your total Blundering Ignorance and Arrogance!

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

MileHigh · « **Reply #6296 on:** December 03, 2015, 02:18:23 AM »

This forum becomes a tragicomedy when people actually propose a new value for Pi and they say it with a straight face. The people that just lurk and are not members and just come for the comedy value are getting their worth here.

EMJunkie · « **Reply #6297 on:** December 03, 2015, 02:39:52 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on December 03, 2015, 02:18:23 AM

This forum becomes a tragicomedy when people actually propose a new value for Pi and they say it with a straight face. The people that just lurk and are not members and just come for the comedy value are getting their worth here.

MileHigh - You're absolutely right!

In many hundreds of posts, we, us mere Nubs' prove the so called "Knowledgeable" to be Blundering IDIOTS!

This is more than Comedy! I have been in hysterics many times proving to you IDIOTS with referenced Data from Institutions that alone show Piffle from your mouths to be foolish Utter Rubbish!!!

Like you and your comment on the Decimal Point!!! WOW did you do a back flip on that one!!!

It's time for you Dufuses to take a back seat, admit you're so far out of touch with everything that goes on in Nature and keep it zipped!

I know you cant however, so mostly I try to ignore you!

Chris Sykes
hyiq.org

Refute this: The Great Pi Conspiracy - PI = 4/square root of golden ratio: 3.144605511

tinman · « **Reply #6298 on:** December 03, 2015, 03:42:33 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on December 03, 2015, 02:18:23 AM

This forum becomes a tragicomedy when people actually propose a new value for Pi and they say it with a straight face. The people that just lurk and are not members and just come for the comedy value are getting their worth here.

Numbers and time are a man made thing that inaccurately try to align with the mathematics of the universe.
365,365,365-->oop's,falling behind,366 *** 365,365,365,

I am so amazed that those here that insist on being accurate with measurements,are the very same people that refuse to move from the inaccuracies of years gone past.

digitalindustry · « **Reply #6299 on:** December 03, 2015, 05:58:21 AM »

Quote from: tinman on December 03, 2015, 03:42:33 AM

Numbers and time are a man made thing that inaccurately try to align with the mathematics of the universe.
365,365,365-->oop's,falling behind,366 *** 365,365,365,

I am so amazed that those here that insist on being accurate with measurements,are the very same people that refuse to move from the inaccuracies of years gone past.

answer is simple - while you are spending time arguing over the orbital patterns of celestial objects you are not creating and sharing or discussing a new device.

isn't it clear that these guys know so much more but have to pretend they don't, i fully well expect (some) have a computer model they punch your systems into you see they are working then base a distraction on that result.

could you see how that is feasible?

a system if programmed correctly could simulate outcomes based on the real data, it's just that the 'public' doesn't have such a system.

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