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Offline Spilled Fluids

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4755 on: July 19, 2015, 08:15:35 AM »
OOP'S-everyone hold on a minute here.
Spilled Fluids would like EVERYONE here that has posted a device that is no OU to kindly remove said posts of said devices,as it is not in accordance of the forum name.
Home page of the forum SF

Welcome to OverUnity.com
The International Open Source Free Energy Research Forum

free energy  will change the world - free energy will stop all environmental pollution

Free energy will help to heal the planet earth.
In our disccusion forum www.overunity.com we talk about all kinds of free energy and alternative
and renewable energy systems.
The world will soon be very green without any pollution and any chemical fuel polutants
with this new  technolgy.
What Tesla has begun in the 19th and 20th century we will now bring to
market in the 21th century.
With permanent magnet motors and Solid State magnet free energy converts into the future.

SF-once again,please post a link to where it states that a device must be OU to be presented on this forum.

And who is making such claim's
Your own hole gets deeper with every post you make.

By the very definition of 'free energy' as used here and within the context of overunity; what I said is true.
By extension, posting here implies that what is being posted is an overunity device, idea or scheme.

As for the mission statements of this forum, they are just emotive claptrap.

Free energy will not change the world; it will not stop environmental pollution and it won't heal the world.

We already have 'free' energy in the form of photo voltaics, wind, waves, tides, thermal, etc.
I haven't seen any significant changes to the world, pollution continues to grow and the world is definitely not healthier.

Even if the mythical free energy sought after here were real, nothing would really change because those already in control of free and not so free energy would end up controlling it also.
This is just the way of the world.

Fairy tales are fun to dream about but they don't exist in reality; at least not in this universe.

I came to this forum a couple of years ago looking for the one device or idea that had or would produce free energy. I built many of the devices featured here; none ever came close to being even as efficient as what is commercially available.
Through my experiments, it became obvious that the conservation of energy cannot be avoided. I don't waste time on those kinds of experiments any more, it's pointless and a waste of both money and time.

During my time here, I have discovered that most of the ideas and claims are wrong and nearly always because of poor measurement or lack of understanding about basic principles of physics.
I can't say if any of them are out and out frauds or scams but many of the people who make the claims fall back on the usual tactics of fraudsters when challenged with real science. That may just be a normal human reaction; I don't know since I'm not a psychologist. But the behaviours do nothing to eliminate skepticism about the individuals or the credibility of their claims.

When I was doing my experiments; I made no outlandish claims and I didn't go pissing on anyone who disagreed with what I thought was happening. I asked for explanations of why my thinking was wrong and learned a lot from the thoughtful answers I received. No need for adhom attacks, insults, innuendo or outright vulgar behaviour.

That is how this forum should function but alas, there are so many folks who simply don't have the knowledge, experience or training to understand what is going on most of the time. Then there are the outright trolls.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4755 on: July 19, 2015, 08:15:35 AM »

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« Reply #4756 on: July 19, 2015, 08:24:56 AM »
so what is it?

http://phys.org/news/2015-03-particle.html

(Phys.org)—Light behaves both as a particle and as a wave. Since the days of Einstein, scientists have been trying to directly observe both of these aspects of light at the same time. Now, scientists at EPFL have succeeded in capturing the first-ever snapshot of this dual behavior.

Quantum mechanics tells us that light can behave simultaneously as a particle or a wave. However, there has never been an experiment able to capture both natures of light at the same time; the closest we have come is seeing either wave or particle, but always at different times. Taking a radically different experimental approach, EPFL scientists have now been able to take the first ever snapshot of light behaving both as a wave and as a particle. The breakthrough work is published in Nature Communications.

When UV light hits a metal surface, it causes an emission of electrons. Albert Einstein explained this "photoelectric" effect by proposing that light – thought to only be a wave – is also a stream of particles. Even though a variety of experiments have successfully observed both the particle- and wave-like behaviors of light, they have never been able to observe both at the same time.

A research team led by Fabrizio Carbone at EPFL has now carried out an experiment with a clever twist: using electrons to image light. The researchers have captured, for the first time ever, a single snapshot of light behaving simultaneously as both a wave and a stream of particles.

The experiment is set up like this: A pulse of laser light is fired at a tiny metallic nanowire. The laser adds energy to the charged particles in the nanowire, causing them to vibrate. Light travels along this tiny wire in two possible directions, like cars on a highway. When waves traveling in opposite directions meet each other they form a new wave that looks like it is standing in place. Here, this standing wave becomes the source of light for the experiment, radiating around the nanowire.

This is where the experiment's trick comes in: The scientists shot a stream of electrons close to the nanowire, using them to image the standing wave of light. As the electrons interacted with the confined light on the nanowire, they either sped up or slowed down. Using the ultrafast microscope to image the position where this change in speed occurred, Carbone's team could now visualize the standing wave, which acts as a fingerprint of the wave-nature of light.
The first ever photograph of light as both a particle and wave
Credit: Fabrizio Carbone/EPFL

While this phenomenon shows the wave-like nature of light, it simultaneously demonstrated its particle aspect as well. As the electrons pass close to the standing wave of light, they "hit" the light's particles, the photons. As mentioned above, this affects their speed, making them move faster or slower. This change in speed appears as an exchange of energy "packets" (quanta) between electrons and photons. The very occurrence of these energy packets shows that the light on the nanowire behaves as a particle.

"This experiment demonstrates that, for the first time ever, we can film quantum mechanics – and its paradoxical nature – directly," says Fabrizio Carbone. In addition, the importance of this pioneering work can extend beyond fundamental science and to future technologies. As Carbone explains: "Being able to image and control quantum phenomena at the nanometer scale like this opens up a new route towards quantum computing."
The first ever photograph of light as both a particle and wave

Your point is what?

We know that light has a dual nature; particular at one time and wave at others.
What part of what Mark said does this not jibe with?
If the individuals who jumped all over Marks statements believed in or understood physics they would have know this.
None of this is new.

The experiment in this article was specially conceived to capture the dual nature of light in a picture/photograph.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4757 on: July 19, 2015, 08:29:14 AM »
  Is a wave, also a field? Is a field also a wave?
  If the photons are the carriers of light, how do you know they are moving from point A to point B.  Speed of light?  Or the speed of the polarization of light, by magnetic alinement of photonic needles, inside each photon.
This alinement of photons toward a light source polarizes them (the photons) and alines them in the direction of the light source, therefore light is created from darkness. Without any movement of any thing, or non-thing.
Light does not travel, at all. The so called "Speed of light" is a myth. While we are the subject of light, and myths.
  You won't find THAT in your physics books.  Call it false, call it what you want. but, some may know what I'm saying.

Does light, either waves, fields or particles penetrate foil helmets? I want to know because something has certainly addled your grey matter  :(

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4757 on: July 19, 2015, 08:29:14 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4758 on: July 19, 2015, 08:37:21 AM »
snip...

Why the need for a shield?,there was never anything about RF that had anything to do with what i was doing. Your continuing blunders are quite comical  ;D
snip...


Aah, sorry Tinman, but it was I who erroneously reintroduced the possibility of a shielding requirement based on an assumption I made after listening to a couple of your videos. Your motor sounded very noisy. More than usual.


I assumed, (and clearly stated that it was my assumption - that I didn't actually know) that your brushes may be deliberately narrowed to a width less than normal. This would of course result in a lot of sparking, like poorly worn or unevenly worn brushes. The reason I made this assumption was because of the noise your motor makes when its running.


I have a universal motor at the moment which sounds exactly the same, though much worse. The brushes were filed down to less than the width of the gap between the elements of the commutator. I had to infill the gaps with high temp epoxy so the brushes wouldn't keep breaking off. But even with epoxy infill, the HV sparking arcs from the kickback still make for a noisy armature. You can well imagine the noise it makes. It's a motor I used for playing with other experiments a few years ago.


Of course, as the saying goes, assumptions make an ass out of u and i.
Still, given that you are keeping things close to your chest, conjecture and assumptions are always going to arise in those of us who are curious.


Sorry if I've created any red herrings for anyone.


Cheers

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4759 on: July 19, 2015, 08:44:23 AM »
What you would be known as here in Australia is a dropkick.


It would also describe someone joining an OU forum who does not believe such a device is even possible and all who do are deluded. How do we block users posts again


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4760 on: July 19, 2015, 08:47:12 AM »
@ Luc
And anyone else that is interested.

Thanks for sharing TinMan

BTW, don't bother spending too much time on the new drip SF, good chances it's MH (on moderation). Seems he likes to take dual user names. Before MH he was Polar Breeze aka PB. Anyways, maybe you answer for fun?

Just thought I would give you a heads up mate

Luc

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« Reply #4761 on: July 19, 2015, 08:52:30 AM »
It would also describe someone joining an OU forum who does not believe such a device is even possible and all who do are deluded. How do we block users posts again

If you are referring to me; I did not come here as a non believer. It was only through trying to duplicate experiments posted here(and elsewhere) and reading so much junk science, pseudo science and blind faith nonsense that I came to realize that OU is nothing more than a fairy tale or wishful thinking.

Please figure out how to block my posts so I don't have to worry about bothering you with science, facts and reality.

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« Reply #4762 on: July 19, 2015, 08:59:29 AM »
@ Luc
And anyone else that is interested.

Thank you and inspite of what you may think, I am interested.

I will attempt to figure out what your circuit does and how it works.
Even though I've said I'm not building these things any more, I may just try this one. The itch never really goes away  ;)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4763 on: July 19, 2015, 09:03:21 AM »



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Free energy will not change the world; it will not stop environmental pollution and it won't heal the world.

We already have 'free' energy in the form of photo voltaics, wind, waves, tides, thermal, etc.
I haven't seen any significant changes to the world, pollution continues to grow and the world is definitely not healthier.

Even if the mythical free energy sought after here were real, nothing would really change because those already in control of free and not so free energy would end up controlling it also.
This is just the way of the world.

And?--Quote post 4524-: Unfortunately it is a misguided truth that is not a truth at all. We already have free energy devices in the way of solar panels. So if a free energy device was going to save all the starving children in Africa,then why dont they have the !already available!free energy devices saving there live's?.Why are solar panels not pumping there fresh water,providing them with food,electricity,and the likes?.

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Fairy tales are fun to dream about but they don't exist in reality; at least not in this universe.

I came to this forum a couple of years ago looking for the one device or idea that had or would produce free energy. I built many of the devices featured here; none ever came close to being even as efficient as what is commercially available.
Through my experiments, it became obvious that the conservation of energy cannot be avoided. I don't waste time on those kinds of experiments any more, it's pointless and a waste of both money and time.

Ah-just trolling for a quick fix then?,hoping that some one else had done all the hard work for you,and you could just copy that hard work,and use it as you will. But because of your own fails,you now have come to the conclusion that !what you call! OU cannot be achieved.

This is only due to your tunnel vision,and not because of the way things really are. I have always stated that there is no such thing as OU-->this you would have missed due to your premature,unfounded,and idiotic comments-->along with your inability to read before opening your mouth. But just so as you know my stance on what OU is,i will repeat it.

OU--> A term used to describe a device that seems to deliver more energy out than is being consumed,until the total energy !in! is found and understood.

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During my time here, I have discovered that most of the ideas and claims are wrong and nearly always because of poor measurement or lack of understanding about basic principles of physics.
I can't say if any of them are out and out frauds or scams but many of the people who make the claims fall back on the usual tactics of fraudsters when challenged with real science. That may just be a normal human reaction; I don't know since I'm not a psychologist. But the behaviours do nothing to eliminate skepticism about the individuals or the credibility of their claims.

It is a good thing then that i made no claims of such a device (!that i dont believe in anyway!) then.

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When I was doing my experiments; I made no outlandish claims and I didn't go pissing on anyone who disagreed with what I thought was happening. I asked for explanations of why my thinking was wrong and learned a lot from the thoughtful answers I received. No need for adhom attacks, insults, innuendo or outright vulgar behaviour.

Or posting lie's about what some one is claiming-who is not claiming anything at all.

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That is how this forum should function but alas, there are so many folks who simply don't have the knowledge, experience or training to understand what is going on most of the time. Then there are the outright trolls.

Indeed :D

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4763 on: July 19, 2015, 09:03:21 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4764 on: July 19, 2015, 09:05:47 AM »
If you are referring to me; I did not come here as a non believer. It was only through trying to duplicate experiments posted here(and elsewhere) and reading so much junk science, pseudo science and blind faith nonsense that I came to realize that OU is nothing more than a fairy tale or wishful thinking.

Please figure out how to block my posts so I don't have to worry about bothering you with science, facts and reality.
So why are you here? You contribute nothing and are simply noise and distraction. You say you are an experimenter but there is no "verifiable proof" of that. What a sad life you must have to spend time hurling insults in a forum of which you have no interest. You have my pity

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4765 on: July 19, 2015, 09:09:49 AM »

Aah, sorry Tinman, but it was I who erroneously reintroduced the possibility of a shielding requirement based on an assumption I made after listening to a couple of your videos. Your motor sounded very noisy. More than usual.


I assumed, (and clearly stated that it was my assumption - that I didn't actually know) that your brushes may be deliberately narrowed to a width less than normal. This would of course result in a lot of sparking, like poorly worn or unevenly worn brushes. The reason I made this assumption was because of the noise your motor makes when its running.


I have a universal motor at the moment which sounds exactly the same, though much worse. The brushes were filed down to less than the width of the gap between the elements of the commutator. I had to infill the gaps with high temp epoxy so the brushes wouldn't keep breaking off. But even with epoxy infill, the HV sparking arcs from the kickback still make for a noisy armature. You can well imagine the noise it makes. It's a motor I used for playing with other experiments a few years ago.


Of course, as the saying goes, assumptions make an ass out of u and i.
Still, given that you are keeping things close to your chest, conjecture and assumptions are always going to arise in those of us who are curious.


Sorry if I've created any red herrings for anyone.


Cheers

Thanks for that but it wasn't your mention of the motor noise that led me to my conclusions.
Tinman said that it wasn't the MiB or any other of the usual conspiracy type people that told him to stop. Given that the only likely interested parties would be the power utilities, Search and Rescue or the regulators of wireless transmission frequencies; I had to assume it was one of them. It is not even the least bit likely that anyone from the government or big oil or name your suppressor; could even be bothered with this.

My assumption is more than reasonable under the circumstances and tinman has not acknowledged nor denied that this was in fact what took place.

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« Reply #4766 on: July 19, 2015, 09:11:20 AM »
Thank you and inspite of what you may think, I am interested.

I will attempt to figure out what your circuit does and how it works.
Even though I've said I'm not building these things any more, I may just try this one. The itch never really goes away  ;)

Do not bother building the device i posted-->it is not for you,as you believe that the laws are set in stone.This being said, you would also be one who believes that a PM cannot do any useful work in any situation it is placed in,and thus you know within yourself that this project would be another waste of time for you.
Alternate path field mechanics are not for you,as your laws do not allow for such things.

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« Reply #4767 on: July 19, 2015, 09:15:52 AM »
So why are you here? You contribute nothing and are simply noise and distraction. You say you are an experimenter but there is no "verifiable proof" of that. What a sad life you must have to spend time hurling insults in a forum of which you have no interest. You have my pity

I am still looking for that nugget of truth and the ever so remote possibility that some one might come up with an over unity device, albeit it won't really be over unity because there will be some as yet undiscovered extra energy input source(think LENR).

Drop over to R-G and have a look around; you'll find my posts and some of my magnet motor experiments there. All failed to become self runners  :'(

Save your pity for someone who cares and please block my posts so that you no longer bother me either.

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« Reply #4768 on: July 19, 2015, 09:20:41 AM »
I came to this forum a couple of years ago looking for the one device or idea that had or would produce free energy. I built many of the devices featured here; none ever came close to being even as efficient as what is commercially available.
Through my experiments, it became obvious that the conservation of energy cannot be avoided. I don't waste time on those kinds of experiments any more, it's pointless and a waste of both money and time.

During my time here, I have discovered that most of the ideas and claims are wrong and nearly always because of poor measurement or lack of understanding about basic principles of physics.
I can't say if any of them are out and out frauds or scams but many of the people who make the claims fall back on the usual tactics of fraudsters when challenged with real science. That may just be a normal human reaction; I don't know since I'm not a psychologist. But the behaviours do nothing to eliminate skepticism about the individuals or the credibility of their claims.

When I was doing my experiments; I made no outlandish claims and I didn't go pissing on anyone who disagreed with what I thought was happening. I asked for explanations of why my thinking was wrong and learned a lot from the thoughtful answers I received. No need for adhom attacks, insults, innuendo or outright vulgar behaviour.

That is how this forum should function but alas, there are so many folks who simply don't have the knowledge, experience or training to understand what is going on most of the time. Then there are the outright trolls.

So you came to this forum 2 years ago?
Your oldest post is May of 2015: http://overunity.com/15732/rosch-taking-orders-on-ou-bouyancy-device/msg450188/#msg450188

Please tell us your user name when you first joined 2 years ago and why you would change it.

Luc

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« Reply #4769 on: July 19, 2015, 09:21:01 AM »
Do not bother building the device i posted-->it is not for you,as you believe that the laws are set in stone.This being said, you would also be one who believes that a PM cannot do any useful work in any situation it is placed in,and thus you know within yourself that this project would be another waste of time for you.
Alternate path field mechanics are not for you,as your laws do not allow for such things.

Are you now saying that this is a Perpetual Motion machine; it sure looks like it!
It would seem that you are afraid of what I might discover! That is most definitely enough incentive to spend the time no matter what the outcome  8)

BTW; they are not my laws, they are the laws of physics and how things work in this universe.

 

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