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tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4185 on: July 04, 2015, 02:56:19 AM »
What is RT, And What was fun?
Is this some kind of delay tatic?
Keep em guessing?
I'm starting to wonder about these forums.
artv

I was being sarcastic when i said !that was fun! shylo.
In fact,it was a week that will change the way i go about things from now on.

As far as delay tactic's go-->i made it very clear right from the start that everything i posted was for measurements only,and i would not be disclosing the device as a whole.<--And that is now set in concrete. I have provided what i have,and that is all there is.

hoptoad

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4186 on: July 04, 2015, 03:32:14 AM »
I was being sarcastic when i said !that was fun! shylo.
In fact,it was a week that will change the way i go about things from now on.

As far as delay tactic's go-->i made it very clear right from the start that everything i posted was for measurements only,and i would not be disclosing the device as a whole.<--And that is now set in concrete. I have provided what i have,and that is all there is.

Quote from: tinman
One would think that with all the pulse motors i have built that charge one battery while running from another-this would have been one of the first things i would have done-->but i never gave it a thought.Im heading back out to the workshop now lol.

Hope you don't mind answering one more simple question. How did your secondary battery test go.?

Cheers.

gotoluc

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4187 on: July 04, 2015, 05:41:34 AM »

As far as delay tactic's go-->i made it very clear right from the start that everything i posted was for measurements only,and i would not be disclosing the device as a whole.<--And that is now set in concrete. I have provided what i have,and that is all there is.

Hi Brad,

if you don't mind me asking, I was wondering if you tried adding a permanent magnet at different position on the stator core to see how it would affect the effect?

Thanks

Luc

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4188 on: July 04, 2015, 10:30:05 AM »
   BSJunkie:
   Stefan can't be sick as WE are, of having to wade through your endless garble.  Or maybe he is, it's hard to tell, as you're still here and posting more insulting comments, and useless threats.

 
 

Has he got a new username?

Stefan, Two more Trouble makers! Can you Ban these two also please!

Thanks again, and for the link! Was interesting!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

minnie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4189 on: July 04, 2015, 10:34:05 AM »



 The very old and the very new. According to books the house was
"remodelled in the 1600's".
          Johhn

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4190 on: July 04, 2015, 08:23:41 PM »
SO IF MOSES DOES NOT COME DOWN THE MOUNTAIN WE SHALL JUST FIND OUR OWN TEN COMMANDMENTS. 10 THY SHALL DO RESEARCH ON COIL SHORTING. EASY JUST SEAR :DCH FOR COIL SHORTING ON THIS SITE AND YOU WILL BE AMAZE.. OR GOOGLE COIL SHORTING. 9.PHYSICALLY  APPLY WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNT FROM YOUR RESEARCH. 8 GET YOURSELF A BOSCH, LG, WHIRLPOOL FRONT LOADER WASHER BRUSH TYPE MOTOR. 7 DISASSEMBLE TO GET ACCESS TO THE TWO WINDINGS..6 REMOVE THE WINDINGS.. 5 REWIND WITH 2 WIRES EACH COIL FOR BIFILAR CONECTION. 4 REASSEMBLE MOTOR..3 START USING YOUR RESEARCH CIRCUITRY. 2. FOLLOW TINMAN CIRCUIT .1 THE FIRST PERSON THAT GET THE BETTER RESULT THAN TINMAN I WILL SEND THEM 100 SEYCHELLES RUPEES BECAUSE THAT IS ALL I CAN AFFORD..http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4191 on: July 04, 2015, 08:33:03 PM »
I have a question for Tinman or anyone who is able to answer.


From my limited knowledge of DC brushed motors I know that you either need a permanent magnet on the stator or you need 2 coils on the stator to create 2 poles so that the motor can start and rotate there after.


Does Tinman's Motor has a permanent magnet on the stator or are the coils creating the permanent poles?  What am I missing here?


How does the motor start (when started in conventional mode - before turning on the switch to a lesser current draw) if the 2 coils re not connected to a power supply to create the permanent poles (if there is no permanent magnet)?

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4192 on: July 04, 2015, 08:34:46 PM »
THIS THE PRIZE

MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4193 on: July 05, 2015, 12:07:41 AM »
Well, I would suggest that this thread is done and over with.  There is no Bloch wall in the center of a bar magnet.  EMJ did not demonstrate that "partnered output coils" have any merit or do anything out of the ordinary.  We examined his setup and measurements and found serious fault with them and concluded that they were invalid.

Tinman appears to have decided to withdraw from showing any more data and the measurement checking process was not completed with the help of the experts around here.  Perhaps later he will decide to share some more data or give us his final judgement on his setup.  Perhaps a dedicated thread for that would be the best way to go.

Right now I am assuming some kind of problem with the measurements.  I find it interesting how often measurement problems or measurement errors falsely indicate over unity.  I suppose that measurement errors also exist that go in the other direction but of course in that case nothing is reported.  The only things that get reported are false positives, and not the false negatives.

Meanwhile, the inexorable transition over to renewable energy continues.  The Middle East continues to loose its geopolitical power because of that process.  One day perhaps one of the dozens and dozens of solar panel "breakthroughs" that get reported all the time will be real and realizable and will go into production.  Another dramatic drop in the cost of solar power per kilowatt-hour coupled with ongoing improvements in energy storage technology supplemented by all of the other renewable forms of energy will simply hasten the transition towards a better and cleaner world.

MileHigh

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4194 on: July 05, 2015, 11:20:57 AM »
WAKEY WAKEY HANDS OFF SNAKEY.. IT SEEMS NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY. WELL HERE ENCLOSED IS ONE SHORTING COIL CIRCUIT..THE HALL SENSORS HAS TO BE PLACED EXPERIMENTALLY ..GOOD LUCK.

minnie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4195 on: July 05, 2015, 06:58:34 PM »



   The nearest I could find to Tinman's truck is something called
Dodge "Pilot-House" whatever that means.
 It certainly looks in fair condition going by the tailgate, they're
usually the first thing to go.
     Very interesting.
                John.

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4196 on: July 05, 2015, 10:44:51 PM »
WAKEY WAKEY HANDS OFF SNAKEY.. IT SEEMS NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY. WELL HERE ENCLOSED IS ONE SHORTING COIL CIRCUIT..THE HALL SENSORS HAS TO BE PLACED EXPERIMENTALLY ..GOOD LUCK.
It is trivial to switch a coil at low frequencies.  The question is:  "Given what we know about electromagnetics, why would you think that any switching arrangement would yield surplus energy?"

Tinman reported on experiments where from the data supplied there was a puzzling appearance that the input power ws less than the output power.  While the appearance was intriguing there was insufficient data  to show that he had found an escape to the First Principle of conservation of energy.

Where that leaves us is more or less back at square one:  Coils switched in a myriad of configurations in billions of circuits when reliably measured show no sign of OU.

If tinman changes his mind and brings his experiments back then we can pursue them to their natural conclusion.  If not, then we can wonder about his apparent results until such time as he either delivers on the appearance, discloses information that establishes conventional behavior, or his demonstrations fade from our collective memory.

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4197 on: July 06, 2015, 04:51:12 AM »
AND PLEASE KIND SIR EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS CIRCUIT WORK. DO NOT TELL ME IT DOES NOT WORK FOR I HAVE ACTUALY MAKE IT WORK..PARTICULARLY WHAT DOES THESE DIODES DO..

seychelles

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4198 on: July 06, 2015, 05:01:53 AM »
AND PLEASE SIR BE AT YOUR LEASURE TO TRY OUT FOR YOURSELF.. ALL YOU NEED IS A BRUSH TYPE MOTOR EG BOSCH, LG FRONT LOADER WASHING MACHINE MOTOR..AND BY THE WAY TINMAN NEVER DISCLOSED HIS CIRCUIT OF THE ROTARY TRANSFORMER I HAVE..IT IS AS OF ABOVE..NOTE THIS MOTOR HAS A MIND OF ITS OWN BECAUSE THE WAY THE COIL IS WOUND..SO THAT IS WHY THE COIL HAS TO BE REWIND.

TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4199 on: July 06, 2015, 05:50:45 AM »
Sigh.

Or should I say.... SIGH.

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