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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3930 on: June 26, 2015, 07:46:59 AM »
For a walking, talking, engineering encyclopedia (with the optional built in calculator), you're a real funny guy...

You are, however, absolutely correct.

Oh PW, Greaser You!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3931 on: June 26, 2015, 07:49:02 AM »
Well I confess my guilt but when EMJ played the MIB card I wanted to give him some push-back.  At least I try to inject some wry humour into it.

It does tend to wear one's patience a bit thin.

In between posting, I managed to sil-braze some brass fabrications and if I can get this piece of polypropylene machined yet tonight, all will not be lost.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3932 on: June 26, 2015, 07:50:38 AM »
For a walking, talking, engineering encyclopedia (with the optional built in calculator), you're a real funny guy...

You are, however, absolutely correct.
This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.

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« Reply #3932 on: June 26, 2015, 07:50:38 AM »
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Offline picowatt

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3933 on: June 26, 2015, 07:51:02 AM »
Oh PW, Greaser You!

I have a lot of respect for MarkE.

No "grease", just fact.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3934 on: June 26, 2015, 10:32:28 AM »
It does tend to wear one's patience a bit thin.

In between posting, I managed to sil-braze some brass fabrications and if I can get this piece of polypropylene machined yet tonight, all will not be lost.


Ah-and what are you building PW?.

Maybe we should have a !Throw your cards on the table! thread,where only actual devices may be presented,and no theoretical talk.

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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3935 on: June 26, 2015, 01:00:19 PM »
Well I confess my guilt but when EMJ played the MIB card I wanted to give him some push-back.  At least I try to inject some wry humour into it.

some wry humour into it? Are you kidding ?Come again? I thought you had been sulking.
I was now reading the last four pages of posts,
And really how far stupidity can get genuinely people and for free.
I not have words to describe the feeling of disgust I feel when seeing these type of speeches.
Get real! Always saying that others should read it, learn it .... books of VHS types ? lol
Are you that act like "stupor," which for such ignorance coming out of your mouth are not enough hundred pliers to remove it.
You're the man of the moment, by the stupidity of the time!
Congratulations!
But attempts to celebrate alone!Stupidity thanked!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3936 on: June 26, 2015, 01:18:18 PM »
Oh Nelson, you came here like a rabid and aggressive believer in free energy and you were saying nasty things about anyone that questioned blind belief with no proof.  You are still an aggressive blind believer and you still have no proof.  Right now we know that EMJ has nothing and Tinman is still in testing so we don't know if he has something or if he doesn't have anything.

Your best course of action would be to just wait and see and to not attack people for expressing their opinions if you don't like those opinions.  Just sit back and relax and let Tinman work with MarkE and Picowatt and do the investigation.  We will just wait for the final results of the testing.
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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3937 on: June 26, 2015, 02:09:41 PM »
Oh Nelson, you came here like a rabid and aggressive believer in free energy and you were saying nasty things about anyone that questioned blind belief with no proof.  You are still an aggressive blind believer and you still have no proof.  Right now we know that EMJ has nothing and Tinman is still in testing so we don't know if he has something or if doesn't have anything.

Your best course of action would be to just wait and see and to not attack people for expressing their opinions if you don't like those opinions.  Just sit back and relax and let Tinman work with MarkE and Picowatt and do the investigation.  We will just wait for the final results of the testing.

How many times do I have to say is not criticism but how critical? Act like you had in school garden! Making jokes in bad taste, calling into question the veracity and integrity of others.
About you say to relax, and see the results  of MarkE and picowatt , what results ?

I am not waiting for their confirmation or anyone.
You do you need the work by hand and listen more and speak less, for you are at a distinct disadvantage.

Marke told me once that are already known all ways to increase the efficiency of circuits and collecting energy. Why would listen to someone who even being pinnacle in electronica say such a thing?
You must think I'm kind dog and I live in the shadow of others.
There is nothing that time does not reveal even the truths that endure hidden for years the ignorance of society in general.
Rationality is always relative to a reference.
The nature of my rationality  not the same as yours.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3938 on: June 26, 2015, 08:56:16 PM »
Quote from Tinman;

"Coil B's current can flow into the cap along with coil A's current for a brief period of time, but coil A's current cannot flow into coil B at any point".

The circuit schematic clearly shows the path for Coil B's current into the cap traveling through Coil A. Coil B is connected to the cap through Coil A.

My Lenz Reversal theory is based on JLN's "Core Lag" theory. What happens to Coil "A" core's "Remnant Viscosity" when the Coil B current reverses it's polarity, and Coil B's core demagnetizes? Does the Bucking connection briefly neutralize the core polarity?

How could it be possible to charge Coil A from Coil B if they weren't connected? The B Coil "Charge Event" of output Coil A may make a crucial difference in the Transformer's performance.

Tinman's not the first to retard the dwell by discharging into an output coil. Lengthening the "Hysterisis Loop" by inducing impedance.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3939 on: June 26, 2015, 11:15:11 PM »
Hi Tinman

just a question

Is the flyback spike the result of the collapsing field of the rotor coil, when the brushes are passing  from one segment of the commutator to another,
or  should it  be possible that the process creating  the flyback spike is able to tap in the environment's energy to CREATE A NEW MAGNETIC FIELD ?

Laurent

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3940 on: June 26, 2015, 11:19:18 PM »
Quote from Tinman;

"Coil B's current can flow into the cap along with coil A's current for a brief period of time, but coil A's current cannot flow into coil B at any point".

The circuit schematic clearly shows the path for Coil B's current into the cap traveling through Coil A. Coil B is connected to the cap through Coil A.

My Lenz Reversal theory is based on JLN's "Core Lag" theory. What happens to Coil "A" core's "Remnant Viscosity" when the Coil B current reverses it's polarity, and Coil B's core demagnetizes? Does the Bucking connection briefly neutralize the core polarity?

How could it be possible to charge Coil A from Coil B if they weren't connected? The B Coil "Charge Event" of output Coil A may make a crucial difference in the Transformer's performance.

Tinman's not the first to retard the dwell by discharging into an output coil. Lengthening the "Hysterisis Loop" by inducing impedance.



Coil B's current can flow into the cap along with coil A's current for a brief period of time,but coil A's current cannot flow into coil B at any point.



@Synchro1 - Nice Spotting! I missed this one! Thanks!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3941 on: June 26, 2015, 11:26:04 PM »
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As i have stated before,i do have concerns elsewhere in the system,and i have sort help in that area.
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Hi Brad,

Going through your posts on this interesting setup of yours, (I am a late comer because of being away) I noticed the above concern and would like to ask whether it got already cleared up or still need some help? provided of course if you wish to discuss it.

Another qustion: can you imagine a motionless setup  based on the similar working principle?

Thanks for showing your tests and the measurements.

Gyula

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3942 on: June 26, 2015, 11:46:28 PM »
Hi Gyula

What a pleasure to see you here

What do you think of my question to Brad , About the origin of the flyback spike,

This question is the result of my last experiments where i replaced the carbon brushes with tungstene rods and at my great surpise and under certain circumstances  , the positive tungstene rod just began to melt due to flyback spikes under an input power of only around 10 watts ??? ------Remind me of my SERGDO experiment !!!

thank's for sharing

Laurent

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« Reply #3943 on: June 27, 2015, 12:12:35 AM »
Hi Laurent,

Well, I would say yes to your suggestion of the flyback coming from the rotor coils (though the 'modus operandi' is not a 100% sure for me yet, Brad refers to components not shown which may modify things) and this flyback pulse induces also a voltage spike in the stator coils (rotary transformer).
And the shorting circuit (shown as a box on the left) may also create another voltage spike when the short is just off. We may also have to consider the magnetic field created by the shorted stator coil during the time moments it is shorted.
Regarding the melting of the tungsten rods (i.e. brushes),  this may indicate the input power may not get loaded correctly in the right moments by the stator coil(s). On the 'load' here I mean utilizing the magnetic flux coming from the rotor coils.
We will hopefully learn more from Brad.  8)   Thanks for your kind words.

Gyula

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3944 on: June 27, 2015, 12:33:42 AM »
@All - 2 Output Coils "Partnered Output Coils" Interacting together, to produce an output!

I am going to ask you, again, think about how these interactions can produce Excess Energy!

Any device that uses 2 Output Coils, "Partnered Output Coils" that Interact together to produce an Output are exactly what I have bought forth here for ALL to benefit from!

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