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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 1985743 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3645 on: June 20, 2015, 06:55:57 AM »

PW,

Like I have said all along, my work is simply replications of other devices that I have already shown, my work is nothing new, my work started with a simple re-discovery, I then found that this was nothing new, its all been done before! Many of the greatest devices in history have shown these same configurations. Many devices that have run themselves, powered useful loads, done useful work... Bill Alek's work is nothing new, he even says this!

Because youre ignorant to the facts, quite a few people right now have Free Energy Devices, the amazing thing is, they know how to build them, they can replicate them and make them work every time!

I am not asking you to take my word for this, or anyone to. But I can say, with a little dedication, some thought, and perseverance this is readily achievable with the Data I have already given you! You sit, complaining, while others are working, experimenting, seeing things work, measuring excellent efficiencies! But, you, PW, sit and complain!

I posted this at the start on this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

I posted on YouTube, around 7 months ago, but the Video was around 2 years old at the time. Yet you disputed this, I show what I have presented: Partnered Output Coils, doing usefull work, Shorted with no effect on the Input, I explain how to do it and explain that it was low level OU... But you, are too old, to tired, and too lazy to get off your Ass and do the investigations!

Is it that you need someone to hold your Hand? Is it that you are mentally unable to try? Incapable because of a Roll of Electrical Tape has disabled your ability's to extend your Arms?

Look, honestly, if you don't like t, don't believe it, don't want to see possibilities, leave, don't come back! But here in lies the situation, you do keep coming back, you cant put this down, because subconsciously you do know what I have said it the truth, its the path forward, you just don't want to admit it!

There is only one person that can help you Picowatt, that person is YOU!

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You ccan make claims all day long.  They are known to be false.  Your claims of working free energy machines are a particular joke.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3645 on: June 20, 2015, 06:55:57 AM »

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« Reply #3646 on: June 20, 2015, 08:46:47 AM »
Chris:  The problem is that there is not a single iota of substance to back up your grandiose statements.  Plus Mark is acknowledged as an expert and you are acknowledged as a rank amateur that spent 15 years on your bench but you still managed to show everybody that you barely have a clue about how a coil works.

Tinman:  If you have data to back up your claim then please present it.



I have done this many times over the years,and yet no one wanted to really know about it,nor was much interest shown.
The L.A.G
The rotary transformer-->along with a few others.
Using the bucking coil configuration, coupled in with PM's on a stator that attract an electromagnetic field of a rotor,but appose the generated field of a generating coil,it would seem that the overall output has exceeded that of the input-->and i am pretty up to date on measuring P/in and P/out with DC system's ;) The latest setup seems to show a COP>+ without even having to try and measure the mechanical output to the fan. That output would be just an additive to the output. By removing the fan,the P/in go's down,and the P/out to the resistive load go's up.

But here your damed if ya do,and damed if ya dont.
So i post a video here showing what i have,and it show's a COP>+ --> then what? ::)
Yes-all the crap starts (as it has so many times before).
People want all the details,so as they can start there build of there own COP>+ device.
They take short cut's,and dont follow instructions,and when there device dosnt work,they call you a fake-->or the device works as stated,and now some rich prick patents the device,and were all screw'd,and im left with nothing more than i have today despite all my hard work over the years.

So rather than post all the details here MH,and have others profit from my hard work(as we seen in the case of SEC exciter being pilfered by teslatronix) How about i just post a video of the device running,and show how i am calculating my P/in and P/out-->would that be acceptable?.
From there you can pick it apart as much as you like.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3647 on: June 20, 2015, 09:29:26 AM »
It sounds fine to me.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3648 on: June 20, 2015, 10:39:35 AM »
Quite a few people claim to have free energy devices, yet none have been confirmed by a qualified third party or made available commercially.
I do not complain (except with regard to your insulting tones).  I just don't believe you have any free energy devices.  And yes, as you are not offering any evidence to support your claims, you are indeed asking us all to just take your word for it.

I don't dispute it at all.  I am just not impressed.  What do we see?  A lamp running from 5V at 300mA.  Are we supposed to be impressed because when you short the secondary the input power does not change?  I find that totally uninteresting and unremarkable.  I definitely do not see that as evidence of "free energy".  Your other video (self assisted...) shows something similar, a dimly lit bulb with 14 watts or so of supply current and again, you short the secondary with minimal input power change as if that is something truly amazing.  If that is your definition of "success" (the coil shorting thing) then I am less than impressed.


And again, notice how you just can't resist making assumptions about people and getting your insulting digs in any time you can.  Try growing up and learning how to have a discussion without your constant need to insult or denigrate as if that somehow bolsters your position.  It does not.

The truth is indeed the path forward, make sure you are listening to your own advice.

So again, can you demonstrate a free energy device doing anything useful with the free energy it manifests?

PW

PW, honestly I read your post and see the same old things...

I have one point I want to make: When you say:

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you are indeed asking us all to just take your word for it.


I have NOT asked you, or anyone for anything! Period. I have given you my findings! You, and for that matter, everyone is free to do what they want with those findings!

I certainly have not asked you to "Believe me"! This is A PW Assumption. Ever heard of Free Will?

I have now made my point! A conversation between Adults, requires two! It sounds like you're getting MarkE to proof read your posts before submitting them? What's going on here?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3649 on: June 20, 2015, 10:41:03 AM »
It sounds fine to me.

Says he who will dispute entirely the very gospel he preaches - What a total joke!!!

What is it: GIGO is the official term to dispute known and IEEE Accepted Power Equations!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3650 on: June 20, 2015, 12:15:34 PM »
So here is where im at with V3 of the rotary transformer. Adding the bucking coil setup did indeed increase the overall output of the system-both mechanical and electrical. When i say bucking coil,i mean a coil that acts as a magnet that can be switched on and off at the right time. As it is a coil that is being shorted,and thus becomes an electromagnet that pushes against the rotors collapsing field just at the right time. This field also travels around the stator core,and boost the field within the secondary(generating)coil that provides the power for the globe.
So we do have a coil that is bucking both against the rotor's field and also the field of the generating coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7rqm9lAlk

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3651 on: June 20, 2015, 01:04:18 PM »
So here is where im at with V3 of the rotary transformer. Adding the bucking coil setup did indeed increase the overall output of the system-both mechanical and electrical. When i say bucking coil,i mean a coil that acts as a magnet that can be switched on and off at the right time. As it is a coil that is being shorted,and thus becomes an electromagnet that pushes against the rotors collapsing field just at the right time. This field also travels around the stator core,and boost the field within the secondary(generating)coil that provides the power for the globe.
So we do have a coil that is bucking both against the rotor's field and also the field of the generating coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7rqm9lAlk

Very good work Tinman

If i understand correctly , when there is no load, the motor draws about 27.7 watts (13.4 volts x 2.07 A )

 when the bulb is on your motor draws about 10 watts ( 13.4 V x 0.75 A ) and the generator produces about 18 watts (10.4 V x 1.64 A)

Very interesting can you please élaborate on the motor and the bucking circuit

Thank's for sharing

Laurent

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3652 on: June 20, 2015, 01:43:57 PM »

Woopy
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If i understand correctly , when there is no load, the motor draws about 27.7 watts (13.4 volts x 2.07 A )

 when the bulb is on your motor draws about 10 watts ( 13.4 V x 0.75 A ) and the generator produces about 18 watts (10.4 V x 1.64 A)

Very interesting can you please élaborate on the motor and the bucking circuit

Thank's for sharing

There is a bit more to it Woopy,but thats as far as we go ATM in regards to information.
I once thought that the lockridge device was some concockted BS dreamed up by hudini and his band of clowns-just as a cash injection-->but now im not so sure,and may have to eat my words.
:-\
What i will be doing(once again) is showing you all the very basic/initial setup,and from there you guys will have to do your own thinking,as im not doing it all for ya's.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3653 on: June 20, 2015, 04:10:59 PM »
Tank's Tinman

waiting for your info and will try a replication ASAP

Laurent

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3654 on: June 20, 2015, 05:14:12 PM »
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Quite a few people claim to have free energy devices, yet none have been
confirmed by a qualified third party or made available commercially.
I would agree however I have a small circuit on my bench which injects a low voltage current into a high voltage current but it does not use an inductor to boost the voltage nor does it use capacitive doubler/triplers etc... . It works but has not been confirmed by a qualified third party or made available commercially, does that mean it does not exist despite the fact it's sitting on my bench working right now as we speak?. I should note it is not free energy or overunity it's just a simple circuit using a few components which injects a low voltage current into a higher voltage AC or DC current and energy is conserved.

The thing to remember here is that just because you did not think of it or understand how it works does not mean it cannot work or cannot exist, it means you do not have all the facts to prove the matter for yourself. The other option is to believe anything we personally cannot understand cannot exist and I think we all know where that leads and this was the same kind of mentality used in the dark ages. The fact remains that there is infinitely more that we do not know than we know and judging anything based on a lack of real facts is generally a losing proposition.
Do the circuits proposed here in this thread work?.... I don't know, that is the correct answer generally given by intelligent open minded people... I do not know because I do not have all the facts one way or the other.
 
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3655 on: June 20, 2015, 05:39:31 PM »
So here is where im at with V3 of the rotary transformer. Adding the bucking coil setup did indeed increase the overall output of the system-both mechanical and electrical. When i say bucking coil,i mean a coil that acts as a magnet that can be switched on and off at the right time. As it is a coil that is being shorted,and thus becomes an electromagnet that pushes against the rotors collapsing field just at the right time. This field also travels around the stator core,and boost the field within the secondary(generating)coil that provides the power for the globe.
So we do have a coil that is bucking both against the rotor's field and also the field of the generating coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7rqm9lAlk

Tinman,

Very interesting!  Why don't you start a thread on this gizmo?  Even if you don't want to reveal the innards, measurements could be discussed.

I have a question regarding the video.  At 3:30 or so, you appear to be running the motor with the gen switched off (no load...) and show a motor current draw of 2.07 amps.  Then later on in the video, at 6:27, it appears your are again running the motor with the gen switched off (no load...) but now the motor appears to only be drawing .222 amps.

Am I seeing this correctly or have I missed something?

PW

 

 

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3656 on: June 20, 2015, 06:22:33 PM »
PW, honestly I read your post and see the same old things...

I have one point I want to make: When you say:

I have NOT asked you, or anyone for anything! Period. I have given you my findings! You, and for that matter, everyone is free to do what they want with those findings!

I certainly have not asked you to "Believe me"! This is A PW Assumption. Ever heard of Free Will?

I have now made my point! A conversation between Adults, requires two! It sounds like you're getting MarkE to proof read your posts before submitting them? What's going on here?

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EMJ,

After the 245 pages that is this thread, I can recall only three "findings" presented by you.  The first is the claim and subsequent discussion both here and at OUR regarding your COP=1.7 circuit using the audio chokes and the flyback core.  Although I did not follow the thread over at OUR fully, I do recall that in the end, it was determined that you were making some measurement errors.  Please correct me if this recollection is not accurate.

The other "findings" that you presented were the two videos demonstrating two different versions of your device lighting a light bulb and showing how the secondary can be shorted with little or no change in output current.  In those two videos, the bulbs appear to be dimly lit and, based on the circuit's indicated input power, driven inefficiently overall.  As the ability to inefficiently light a lamp is no big deal, I can only assume that it must be the ability to short the secondaries with little or no change in input power that is the main point being demonstrated in the two videos (and yes, I have to assume this, because I have in the past asked you to clarify this to no avail).  With regard to shorting the secondary with little change of the input power, I do not see that as evidence of free energy or anything necessarily extraordinary. 

Those are the only three "findings" I can recall that you have presented.

PW

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3657 on: June 20, 2015, 06:55:53 PM »
@picowattI would agree however I have a small circuit on my bench which injects a low voltage current into a high voltage current but it does not use an inductor to boost the voltage nor does it use capacitive doubler/triplers etc... . It works but has not been confirmed by a qualified third party or made available commercially, does that mean it does not exist despite the fact it's sitting on my bench working right now as we speak?. I should note it is not free energy or overunity it's just a simple circuit using a few components which injects a low voltage current into a higher voltage AC or DC current and energy is conserved.

The thing to remember here is that just because you did not think of it or understand how it works does not mean it cannot work or cannot exist, it means you do not have all the facts to prove the matter for yourself. The other option is to believe anything we personally cannot understand cannot exist and I think we all know where that leads and this was the same kind of mentality used in the dark ages. The fact remains that there is infinitely more that we do not know than we know and judging anything based on a lack of real facts is generally a losing proposition.
Do the circuits proposed here in this thread work?.... I don't know, that is the correct answer generally given by intelligent open minded people... I do not know because I do not have all the facts one way or the other.
 
AC

AC,

Surely you see some difference between a circuit such as you describe and someone claiming to have free energy devices.

I have always believed and adhered to the idea that having a truly open mind actually means always being cognizant of the fact that anything you "know" may be wrong.  However, one cannot go thru life without some convictions regarding what is the reality being dealt with at any given point in time, so probabilities must be assigned to everything based upon perceptions or any data presented, both real time and historical.

EMJ claims to have free energy devices.  Based solely upon what he has presented as his "findings", the assigned probability is very low. 

PW

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3658 on: June 20, 2015, 07:07:30 PM »
I am going to run with Chris' "assumptions" theme.

Chris runs his test where he shorts out the secondary.  He assumes that the input power is supposed to go up.  This is a classic mistake that I have seen over and over.  So the input power doesn't really change and he incorrectly assumes that he is observing something special.

Tinman:

I looked at your clip and you are in very similar territory.  You add the light bulb load and the power draw goes down.  All that you have done is change the impedance of the circuit from the vantage point of the battery.  You added the light bulb load, the impedance of the circuit went up, and the current consumption went down.  Under no load your motor was drawing about 23 watts.  That's a lot of watts that are being turned into heat.  When you change the impedance of the circuit there are more than enough watts available to run the motor and light the light bulb.  The exercise to do when you add the light bulb load is to measure the power draw from the battery, and them measure the power dissipation in the various components of the circuit.  Everything will add up and balance so that the power draw from the battery equals the total power dissipated in the various components of the circuit.

Your big "flaw" when you experiment is to almost always jump to the conclusion that your setup is somehow different and "normal rules don't apply."  Nothing could be further from the truth.  In your bearing motor thread you say that somewhere.  It simply does not work like that.  Your setups always act perfectly normally.  The challenge for you is to simply measure properly and understand what is going on.  You can't invent "conventional rules don't apply to my circuit" short-cuts in logic to arrive at what you believe is a satisfactory conclusion.

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« Reply #3659 on: June 20, 2015, 07:14:40 PM »
AC:

There are major problems with this statement of yours, "I have a small circuit on my bench which injects a low voltage current into a high voltage current."

I am sure that you have a circuit that does something.  But whatever it does is not being described properly by your prose because it's a juxtaposition of terms that doesn't make sense.  It's almost like saying, "Please draw a circular square for me on paper."  So if you can get a better description going that would help.  I note that you are not claiming free energy.

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