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Offline allcanadian

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3630 on: June 20, 2015, 01:35:06 AM »
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It may be something like this:  In say 2022, renewables will supply say 15% of our energy.   But then in just five years, with new and better energy technologies, by 2027 renewablles will supply 95% of our energy.  There will be a positive feedback loop and a "snap" effect and before you know it coal and oil and gas-fired power plants will be like the Dodo bird.


I would agree and technology is moving so fast in the last few years it is almost impossible to keep up. Recently the Saudi's said oil at $10 a barrel cannot compete with solar and in less than 5 years we can expect the price of solar to be half of what it is today. I think the next step is integration of micro inverters like Enphase into the panel as a one chip solution at which point it's simply plug and play. The trick here is to have a smart, safe and reliable system which does not need an electrician to install and is no more difficult to install than plugging in a toaster. That plus the Ultra High Voltage North American transmission line should pretty much toast coal fired power plants in the near future.


As well if the super capacitor technology keeps leap frogging forward and cheap bulk energy storage becomes the norm then it's anybody's ball game. We live in pretty exciting times and I think I like it, let's face the facts... we were nerds before most people reading these threads could eat solid food and even say the word nerd, lol.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3630 on: June 20, 2015, 01:35:06 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3631 on: June 20, 2015, 01:49:57 AM »



MarkE - Because you're an Idiot, and make wild ASSUMPTIONS that clearly suit your preconceived ideas and prove you to be nothing more than a Blabbering GOON, I will spell this out for you:







WHERE have I said that this was Bucking Coils?


CLEARLY, the Objective, as I stated:

Is NOT BUCKING COILS, but because you have ASSUMED THIS, proves that you're an IDIOT along with PW!



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LOL, once again you went off topic in your own thread.  I pointed out that the configuration is not bucking which it is not and which established that you once again went off-topic.  Now, once again you have gone into a nonsensical tirade.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3632 on: June 20, 2015, 01:57:58 AM »
@MH

I would agree and technology is moving so fast in the last few years it is almost impossible to keep up. Recently the Saudi's said oil at $10 a barrel cannot compete with solar and in less than 5 years we can expect the price of solar to be half of what it is today. I think the next step is integration of micro inverters like Enphase into the panel as a one chip solution at which point it's simply plug and play. The trick here is to have a smart, safe and reliable system which does not need an electrician to install and is no more difficult to install than plugging in a toaster. That plus the Ultra High Voltage North American transmission line should pretty much toast coal fired power plants in the near future.


As well if the super capacitor technology keeps leap frogging forward and cheap bulk energy storage becomes the norm then it's anybody's ball game. We live in pretty exciting times and I think I like it, let's face the facts... we were nerds before most people reading these threads could eat solid food and even say the word nerd, lol.


AC
People have been after integrated DC-DC converters and/or AC microinverters for years.  It is generally a really bad idea because it puts the electronics in intimate contact with the hot solar module.  Microinverters are generally not worth the price premium.  Some installers have sworn off enPhase due to losing money after repeated service calls due to problems with the signaling system.  ABB (Power One) makes central inverters that have two separate MPP loops.  1:1 against microinverters they generally yield equal or better energy output at far lower cost and complexity.  Read that as bettter long term reliability.  A roof is a very hostile place to put microelectronics.  That will always be a distinct disadvantage to microinverters.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3632 on: June 20, 2015, 01:57:58 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3633 on: June 20, 2015, 01:59:23 AM »
To all following.

Just a little more data: SEE Attached PDF

On Google: http://www.google.com.au/patents/US1702771

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When the OP of a thread titled "Partnered output coils-free energy" posts links to "just a little more data", who would actually think that he was not referring to what is mentioned in the OP of this thread.  On top of that, when MarkE pointed out that the secondaries were in series, you sure seemed to make the case that you believed he was wrong.

This, combined with your apparent read/assumptions of that "1200 watts out for 140 watts in article" does make me question whether you actually read the links you post.

Also note that unlike you, I did not feel the need to sling insults or derogatory comments your way, as is your apparent concept of a "discussion".

And as for having an open mind, are you sure yours indeed is? 
 
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3634 on: June 20, 2015, 02:17:24 AM »
Perhaps it is you that should read the patent...

MarkE is correct.  The patent discusses coils that are wound and connected in such a manner as to reduce inter-winding capacitance.  The patent does not discuss connecting secondaries in a manner that would cause them to buck the voltage produced.

In the related patent image posted above, only if the two middle leads of the secondary windings were connected together, would the coils buck as you would have us believe.  As drawn, the secondaries do not buck, but the effective capacitance between pri and sec is reduced (i.e., partially canceled).

Also, the use of the word 'amplifying" to describe the transformer action discussed in the patent is a bit misleading at best.



I mean really Look at the context of what this Patent is saying! This is my point, even if Brain Dead, Infected Parasites like MileHigh cant comprehend these basic principals that this Patent clearly lay's out, for a specific reason, to achieve a goal, by design!!!

The stated objective is to achieve a goal by Separating the Secondary Coils, which is what I have been saying for many years now! Partnered Output Coils!

Ask yourself, what else can be done by separating the Secondary Coils? One comes to mind, KOEING, as I have already stated: http://www.padrak.com/ine/KOENIG2.html

I don't care about Parasites like MileHigh, well I do, I hope they come to their senses but hold no hope, but for others, trying to learn, trying to make a difference....

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3634 on: June 20, 2015, 02:17:24 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3635 on: June 20, 2015, 02:24:08 AM »
When the OP of a thread titled "Partnered output coils-free energy" posts links to "just a little more data", who would actually think that he was not referring to what is mentioned in the OP of this thread.  On top of that, when MarkE pointed out that the secondaries were in series, you sure seemed to make the case that you believed he was wrong.

This, combined with your apparent read/assumptions of that "1200 watts out for 140 watts in article" does make me question whether you actually read the links you post.

Also note that unlike you, I did not feel the need to sling insults or derogatory comments your way, as is your apparent concept of a "discussion".

And as for having an open mind, are you sure yours indeed is? 
 
PW


PW, Be embarrassed, because the very first line of your reply starts with yet another ASSUMPTION!!!

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When the OP of a thread titled "Partnered output coils-free energy" posts links to "just a little more data", who would actually think that he was not referring to what is mentioned in the OP of this thread.


I mean come on! Really, you have no idea! Please do yourself a favour, ask yourself, what's the point of this Patent? Why would Chris bring this patent here, showing what it does?

Your BIGGEST Assumption is simply, that:

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Bucking, is limited to Magnetic Fields Opposing with no Electrical Output!


When, for years, I have VERY CLEARLY shown, that this is NOT the limit to Partnered Output Coils! See how terrible this ASSUMPTION really is!!!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3636 on: June 20, 2015, 02:37:20 AM »


I mean really Look at the context of what this Patent is saying! This is my point, even if Brain Dead, Infected Parasites like MileHigh cant comprehend these basic principals that this Patent clearly lay's out, for a specific reason, to achieve a goal, by design!!!

The stated objective is to achieve a goal by Separating the Secondary Coils, which is what I have been saying for many years now! Partnered Output Coils!

Ask yourself, what else can be done by separating the Secondary Coils? One comes to mind, KOEING, as I have already stated: http://www.padrak.com/ine/KOENIG2.html

I don't care about Parasites like MileHigh, well I do, I hope they come to their senses but hold no hope, but for others, trying to learn, trying to make a difference....

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This post is not resonating with me at all.  You claim to have free energy devices that use a "specially wound" transformer.  Now you seem to want to use any instance of any transformer that has a split or separated secondary for any reason whatsoever (reduction of inter-winding capacitance or voltage for example) as some sort of straw man proof to bolster your free energy claims (in the complete absence of any proof directly related to your free energy claims).

Instead of trying to prove your technology actually generates "free energy" by using unrelated examples such as this patent, why do you not provide any evidence (actual measurements or a device powering something without the need for external power)?  Your "self assisted oscillations" video was from 2011 and I believe prior to that was your COP=1.7 device.  Why are you not proudly displaying those "technologies" doing something useful?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3636 on: June 20, 2015, 02:37:20 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3637 on: June 20, 2015, 02:57:38 AM »
This post is not resonating with me at all.  You claim to have free energy devices that use a "specially wound" transformer.  Now you seem to want to use any instance of any transformer that has a split or separated secondary for any reason whatsoever (reduction of inter-winding capacitance or voltage for example) as some sort of straw man proof to bolster your free energy claims (in the complete absence of any proof directly related to your free energy claims).

Instead of trying to prove your technology actually generates "free energy" by using unrelated examples such as this patent, why do you not provide any evidence (actual measurements or a device powering something without the need for external power)?  Your "self assisted oscillations" video was from 2011 and I believe prior to that was your COP=1.7 device.  Why are you not proudly displaying those "technologies" doing something useful?

PW

PW, look, I don't mind you, you're just difficult... I sort of understand why.

Spend 8 seconds and watch this: Click Here

Listen VERY carefully! Listen to what is said! Understand the Meaning! Then ask yourself, I wonder why such a statement would be made?

Now, what have I said in the past, I remember saying something to the degree of, there are lots of ways this can work, it's not limited to one way in particular. There is always a possibility to build a better mouse trap! Why limit ones options?

Akula0083 has done many demonstrations, did you ever benifet from these?

Floyd Sweet?

Steven Mark?

Really the list goes on! No one can build this from a demonstration unless they are outright Lucky! One needs to think about the Coils, How they can work Together! Look at reasons what Other devices have worked. Besides, you and others here still to this day dispute my existing videos so why would another demonstration be of any use? You, as others will, also dispute that also! There is no point me showing you anything except Real Data this, the only thing that the Human mind can look at and absorb and make conscious decision on, "Well, this is good data and makes sense!"

This is the best way to present something, let you see some data and you can make your mind up. Its called Free Will...

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3638 on: June 20, 2015, 03:03:10 AM »
EMJ,

Did you actually read the previous link you posted?  It was more an argument against the claimed "partnered" coils than it was in any way in support of your claims.

Again, why are you not demonstrating YOUR stuff doing something useful?

Is any one of those claimed "free energy devices" of yours, or those "successes" you claim others are having, able to do anything at all useful?

PW

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3638 on: June 20, 2015, 03:03:10 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3639 on: June 20, 2015, 03:09:20 AM »


I mean really Look at the context of what this Patent is saying! This is my point, even if Brain Dead, Infected Parasites like MileHigh cant comprehend these basic principals that this Patent clearly lay's out, for a specific reason, to achieve a goal, by design!!!

The stated objective is to achieve a goal by Separating the Secondary Coils, which is what I have been saying for many years now! Partnered Output Coils!

Ask yourself, what else can be done by separating the Secondary Coils? One comes to mind, KOEING, as I have already stated: http://www.padrak.com/ine/KOENIG2.html

I don't care about Parasites like MileHigh, well I do, I hope they come to their senses but hold no hope, but for others, trying to learn, trying to make a difference....

   Chris Sykes
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LOL, the patent you cite does not separate the coils.  It: splits the secondary into two halves, and winds those two halves oppositely to reduce capacitive coupling which distorts the signal and transfers unwanted common mode energy between the primary and secondary.  It specifically does not wire the secondaries in the bucking configuration that you advocate.  Neither does it attempt to gain efficiency or claim energy generation with the winding configuration used.  It attempts and succeeds at reducing the transfer of common mode energy.  That reduces the transmission of electrical noise between the primary and secondary.  Whereas what you promote reduces the differential signal ideally to zero while doubling the common mode energy transfer.  What you promote undoes the good of the patent and then aggravates the result.

Koenig's useless patent has been discussed in detail before.  If you wish to resurrect the discussion feel free to make what claims you will for Koenig and we can see if any have merit.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3640 on: June 20, 2015, 03:12:35 AM »
PW, look, I don't mind you, you're just difficult... I sort of understand why.

Spend 8 seconds and watch this: Click Here

Listen VERY carefully! Listen to what is said! Understand the Meaning! Then ask yourself, I wonder why such a statement would be made?

Now, what have I said in the past, I remember saying something to the degree of, there are lots of ways this can work, it's not limited to one way in particular. There is always a possibility to build a better mouse trap! Why limit ones options?

Akula0083 has done many demonstrations, did you ever benifet from these?

Floyd Sweet?

Steven Mark?

Really the list goes on! No one can build this from a demonstration unless they are outright Lucky! One needs to think about the Coils, How they can work Together! Look at reasons what Other devices have worked. Besides, you and others here still to this day dispute my existing videos so why would another demonstration be of any use? You, as others will, also dispute that also! There is no point me showing you anything except Real Data this, the only thing that the Human mind can look at and absorb and make conscious decision on, "Well, this is good data and makes sense!"

This is the best way to present something, let you see some data and you can make your mind up. Its called Free Will...

   Chris Sykes
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LOL, you are unable to back your own false claims so you try to associate yoursself with other false claimants:  nice.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3640 on: June 20, 2015, 03:12:35 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3641 on: June 20, 2015, 03:55:53 AM »
EMJ,

Did you actually read the previous link you posted?  It was more an argument against the claimed "partnered" coils than it was in any way in support of your claims.

Again, why are you not demonstrating YOUR stuff doing something useful?

Is any one of those claimed "free energy devices" of yours, or those "successes" you claim others are having, able to do anything at all useful?

PW


PW,

Like I have said all along, my work is simply replications of other devices that I have already shown, my work is nothing new, my work started with a simple re-discovery, I then found that this was nothing new, its all been done before! Many of the greatest devices in history have shown these same configurations. Many devices that have run themselves, powered useful loads, done useful work... Bill Alek's work is nothing new, he even says this!

Because youre ignorant to the facts, quite a few people right now have Free Energy Devices, the amazing thing is, they know how to build them, they can replicate them and make them work every time!

I am not asking you to take my word for this, or anyone to. But I can say, with a little dedication, some thought, and perseverance this is readily achievable with the Data I have already given you! You sit, complaining, while others are working, experimenting, seeing things work, measuring excellent efficiencies! But, you, PW, sit and complain!

I posted this at the start on this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

I posted on YouTube, around 7 months ago, but the Video was around 2 years old at the time. Yet you disputed this, I show what I have presented: Partnered Output Coils, doing usefull work, Shorted with no effect on the Input, I explain how to do it and explain that it was low level OU... But you, are too old, to tired, and too lazy to get off your Ass and do the investigations!

Is it that you need someone to hold your Hand? Is it that you are mentally unable to try? Incapable because of a Roll of Electrical Tape has disabled your ability's to extend your Arms?

Look, honestly, if you don't like t, don't believe it, don't want to see possibilities, leave, don't come back! But here in lies the situation, you do keep coming back, you cant put this down, because subconsciously you do know what I have said it the truth, its the path forward, you just don't want to admit it!

There is only one person that can help you Picowatt, that person is YOU!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3642 on: June 20, 2015, 04:22:33 AM »
LOL, you are unable to back your own false claims so you try to associate yoursself with other false claimants:  nice.

A Parasite through and through, your one liners, with continued Non-Sense and full of Assumptions are all Laughable!

For a person that appears to be a little educated, you are terribly limited to such a small Bubble!

When your Bubble bursts, and its starting right now, you will be ever so lost in the Real World!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3643 on: June 20, 2015, 04:39:25 AM »

Did you actually read the previous link you posted?  It was more an argument against the claimed "partnered" coils than it was in any way in support of your claims.


I did actually post the wrong link!

The Link I meant to post: http://www.padrak.com/ine/KOENIG.html

The link I posted: http://www.padrak.com/ine/KOENIG2.html

So, apologies for this error. Yep, I make em too!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3644 on: June 20, 2015, 06:16:59 AM »



Because youre ignorant to the facts, quite a few people right now have Free Energy Devices, the amazing thing is, they know how to build them, they can replicate them and make them work every time!


Quite a few people claim to have free energy devices, yet none have been confirmed by a qualified third party or made available commercially.
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I am not asking you to take my word for this, or anyone to. But I can say, with a little dedication, some thought, and perseverance this is readily achievable with the Data I have already given you! You sit, complaining, while others are working, experimenting, seeing things work, measuring excellent efficiencies! But, you, PW, sit and complain!

I do not complain (except with regard to your insulting tones).  I just don't believe you have any free energy devices.  And yes, as you are not offering any evidence to support your claims, you are indeed asking us all to just take your word for it.

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I posted this at the start on this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

I posted on YouTube, around 7 months ago, but the Video was around 2 years old at the time. Yet you disputed this, I show what I have presented: Partnered Output Coils, doing usefull work, Shorted with no effect on the Input, I explain how to do it and explain that it was low level OU... But you, are too old, to tired, and too lazy to get off your Ass and do the investigations!

I don't dispute it at all.  I am just not impressed.  What do we see?  A lamp running from 5V at 300mA.  Are we supposed to be impressed because when you short the secondary the input power does not change?  I find that totally uninteresting and unremarkable.  I definitely do not see that as evidence of "free energy".  Your other video (self assisted...) shows something similar, a dimly lit bulb with 14 watts or so of supply current and again, you short the secondary with minimal input power change as if that is something truly amazing.  If that is your definition of "success" (the coil shorting thing) then I am less than impressed.


And again, notice how you just can't resist making assumptions about people and getting your insulting digs in any time you can.  Try growing up and learning how to have a discussion without your constant need to insult or denigrate as if that somehow bolsters your position.  It does not.

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Is it that you need someone to hold your Hand? Is it that you are mentally unable to try? Incapable because of a Roll of Electrical Tape has disabled your ability's to extend your Arms?

Look, honestly, if you don't like t, don't believe it, don't want to see possibilities, leave, don't come back! But here in lies the situation, you do keep coming back, you cant put this down, because subconsciously you do know what I have said it the truth, its the path forward, you just don't want to admit it!

There is only one person that can help you Picowatt, that person is YOU!

   Chris Sykes
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The truth is indeed the path forward, make sure you are listening to your own advice.

So again, can you demonstrate a free energy device doing anything useful with the free energy it manifests?

PW

 

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