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Offline Red_Sunset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3600 on: June 19, 2015, 07:59:01 AM »
Red, I second that!

How is progress coming along?

   Chris Sykes
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Chris,

Still searching, exploring and trying to keep my nose clean.
Your bucking coils are great for understanding of transformation but I am not so sure beyond that.
But then, what do I know ?  we are all traveling on the same planet, so much to discover.

Just seeing in the corner of my eye, the movie with Tome Cruise on the TV, "Jerry Maguire"
" SHOW ME THE MONEY "  is possibly a quote appropriate to your topic.

Regards, Red_Sunset

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« Reply #3600 on: June 19, 2015, 07:59:01 AM »

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3601 on: June 19, 2015, 08:55:14 AM »
I can not believe that you guys are still at it after all this time !

Throwing muck at each other and claiming that the kettle is blacker than the pot.

Guys, grow up & get a life, move on & progress !

Sometimes it's worth it to argue your case on pure principle.  Life is already crazy enough with what is going on in the world.  There is more than enough dishonesty, hate, and violence in the world.  How much dishonestly can take place before people have had enough?

I will give you an example from my real life.  I got sucked into an infomercial about 25 years ago.  It was selling a system to teach you and make it easy for you to start a new business.  All of the "inside" information was supposed to be in the package.  Marketing, protecting your intellectual property, registering your business, etc.

It looked very impressive.  There were two books, a few worksheets, and a fancy big plastic-molded binder that opened up like a large coffee table book and held eight cassette tapes for you to listen to.  The package cost about $200.  You were under the impression that you had your course material in the books and you could listen to the EIGHT cassette tapes presumably for supplemental information.

So I wait my "six weeks for delivery" for the instructional package.

When it arrives I see that the "two books" consisted of about say 25 sheets of 8" x 11" paper where they turn that into a "booklet" where they fold the paper down the center to create a "spine" and hold it together with two staples along the center spine.  I hope that is something you can envision.

The font in the booklets and the line spacing was quite large - there really was was not that much information there.

But the big surprise was the eight cassette tapes.   It turned out that each cassette tape was just a verbatim copy of what was in the booklets.

Eight cassette tapes, sounds pretty impressive, eh?

There was so little tape in each cassette that you couldn't even see any tape though the window on the cassette. The whole business about the "eight cassettes" was a sham.  All eight tapes could easily have fit onto a single cassette.

The "eight instructional cassette tapes" was pure marketing bullshit to create the perception of value.  Hence more sales, hence more profit.

To be continued....

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3602 on: June 19, 2015, 08:55:42 AM »
Now, let's take that metaphor and apply it it Chris.

Chris is trying to sell you an instructional package but there is no tape at all in each of the eight cassettes.

Do you understand what I am saying?

Chris is babbling like a fool and trying to say that he has some information to "sell" to you but in fact he has no information.

It is completely crazy.  It's so crazy it's surreal.  This guy is babbling saying that he has something but his cassettes are empty and his pockets are empty.

He looks you in the eye and he says, "Take my cassette and put it into your tape player."

You take the cassette and you examine it and you look Chris in the eye and say, "Chris, there is no tape inside the cassette."

Chris looks back at you and says, "Take my cassette and put it into your tape player."

That is what is happening here.  It's crazy and at this point I am starting to worry about Chris' sanity.

Plus, it's not much of a leap to go from Chris to a typical free energy con job, of which there are too many to mention.  Plus, Chris barely knows what he is talking about, and that is one of the reasons there is no tape in the eight cassette shells - just like many free energy con jobs.

That's what's happening.  You know sometimes in the world there are ferry disasters, and related calamities.  Often when they do the accident investigations they find nonsensical idiocy like this situation we are discussing right here is the cause of the disaster.  Ridiculous things like "They had no charts to enter the port with their container ship but the captain decided to try anyway and ripped the hull on a charted underwater rock formation."  (Costa Concordia?) Or there was that ferry disaster in Korea where 304 people died, mostly students, because the crew were so stupid and irresponsible that they advised people to stay in their cabins to keep up appearances.

So there are serious principles at play here, even if the whole thing is taking place on a free energy chat board and there is really "nothing at stake."

What's at stake is actually big:  It's the principles we live by.  What are we, a bunch of idiot monkeys, or do we have a responsibility to be be honest with each other and work together to make the world a better place?

Chris is acting like an idiot monkey looking for idiot monkeys to join him.  They are going to eat invisible pantomime bananas.  The problem is that if you mindlessly sit there and mime eating a banana eventually you are going to "die intellectually" because a god damned air banana has no calories.

MileHigh

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Offline minnie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3603 on: June 19, 2015, 10:07:50 AM »



  I feel that I've got a lot out of this and Ken Wheeler's book. It has started me on
an incredible journey through all the steps that have led up to the current state of
knowledge on magnetism and quantum theory.
     I think  Einstein said something on the lines of "Nature is as simple as required,
but no more simple than that". I've had to make my own mind up about Wheeler's
book and my conclusion is that it's much good.
    I thought that ATOM1 was a total nut-case but some of the things he comes out
with seem to make a bit of sense.
   Anyway what I've decided is that with a subject like partnered coils and the like
what needs to be done is to look at it from the photon level rather than making
silly circuits and meaningless tests. We do know that there is no stored energy in
an ideal transformer so how can we get past 1-1=0 ?
                 John

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3604 on: June 19, 2015, 10:14:07 AM »
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Sometimes it's worth it to argue your case on pure principle.  Life is already crazy enough with what is going on in the world.  There is more than enough dishonesty, hate, and violence in the world.  How much dishonestly can take place before people have had enough?

I will give you an example from my real life.  I got sucked into an infomercial about 25 years ago.  It was selling a system to teach you and make it easy for you to start a new business.  All of the "inside" information was supposed to be in the package.  Marketing, protecting your intellectual property, registering your business, etc.

It looked very impressive.  There were two books, a few worksheets, and a fancy big plastic-molded binder that opened up like a large coffee table book and held eight cassette tapes for you to listen to.  The package cost about $200.  You were under the impression that you had your course material in the books and you could listen to the EIGHT cassette tapes presumably for supplemental information.

So I wait my "six weeks for delivery" for the instructional package.

When it arrives I see that the "two books" consisted of about say 25 sheets of 8" x 11" paper where they turn that into a "booklet" where they fold the paper down the center to create a "spine" and hold it together with two staples along the center spine.  I hope that is something you can envision.

The font in the booklets and the line spacing was quite large - there really was was not that much information there.

But the big surprise was the eight cassette tapes.   It turned out that each cassette tape was just a verbatim copy of what was in the booklets.

Eight cassette tapes, sounds pretty impressive, eh?

There was so little tape in each cassette that you couldn't even see any tape though the window on the cassette. The whole business about the "eight cassettes" was a sham.  All eight tapes could easily have fit onto a single cassette.

The "eight instructional cassette tapes" was pure marketing bullshit to create the perception of value.  Hence more sales, hence more profit.

LOL it is funny to seee and understand for the future, how a “smart” guy fell for such elementary things. It is quite funny when after you falling for such things, trying to make sense of it by being your own detective after the facts lol.

I'm kind of 100% sure you are still being manipulated in the same way but just more gentle...lol

How many commercials do you watch a day?  :o

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3605 on: June 19, 2015, 10:37:42 AM »
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How many commercials do you watch a day?

I probably average about 0.1 commercials a day.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3606 on: June 19, 2015, 10:43:09 AM »
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Now, let's take that metaphor and apply it it Chris.

Chris is trying to sell you an instructional package but there is no tape at all in each of the eight cassettes.

Do you understand what I am saying?

Chris is babbling like a fool and trying to say that he has some information to "sell" to you but in fact he has no information.

It is completely crazy.  It's so crazy it's surreal.  This guy is babbling saying that he has something but his cassettes are empty and his pockets are empty.

He looks you in the eye and he says, "Take my cassette and put it into your tape player."

You take the cassette and you examine it and you look Chris in the eye and say, "Chris, there is no tape inside the cassette."

Chris looks back at you and says, "Take my cassette and put it into your tape player."

That is what is happening here.  It's crazy and at this point I am starting to worry about Chris' sanity.

Plus, it's not much of a leap to go from Chris to a typical free energy con job, of which there are too many to mention.  Plus, Chris barely knows what he is talking about, and that is one of the reasons there is no tape in the eight cassette shells - just like many free energy con jobs.

That's what's happening.  You know sometimes in the world there are ferry disasters, and related calamities.  Often when they do the accident investigations they find nonsensical idiocy like this situation we are discussing right here is the cause of the disaster.  Ridiculous things like "They had no charts to enter the port with their container ship but the captain decided to try anyway and ripped the hull on a charted underwater rock formation."  (Costa Concordia?) Or there was that ferry disaster in Korea where 304 people died, mostly students, because the crew were so stupid and irresponsible that they advised people to stay in their cabins to keep up appearances.

So there are serious principles at play here, even if the whole thing is taking place on a free energy chat board and there is really "nothing at stake."

What's at stake is actually big:  It's the principles we live by.  What are we, a bunch of idiot monkeys, or do we have a responsibility to be be honest with each other and work together to make the world a better place?

Chris is acting like an idiot monkey looking for idiot monkeys to join him.  They are going to eat invisible pantomime bananas.  The problem is that if you mindlessly sit there and mime eating a banana eventually you are going to "die intellectually" because a god damned air banana has no calories.

It is kind of obvious by now that you can't understand evolution! It is blatantly obvious that you want to get a “revenge” for buying that $200 self study thing. Lol How will you get a revenge? Obviously you fell a victim of GREED! Lol all of your explanations why just makes it funny! This than and the other avoiding the fact that you FUCKED UP! All of that is still going on right now!!! Just because you mentiened how you got taken advantage of does not mean you have the SOLUTION!!! lol Three seconds ago another milehigh just payed $200 USD to learn the truth! LOL


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« Reply #3607 on: June 19, 2015, 10:52:29 AM »
It is kind of obvious by now that you can't understand evolution! It is blatantly obvious that you want to get a “revenge” for buying that $200 self study thing. Lol How will you get a revenge? Obviously you fell a victim of GREED! Lol all of your explanations why just makes it funny! This than and the other avoiding the fact that you FUCKED UP! All of that is still going on right now!!! Just because you mentiened how you got taken advantage of does not mean you have the SOLUTION!!! lol Three seconds ago another milehigh just payed $200 USD to learn the truth! LOL

This is just nonsense talk Joel.  I bought something 25 years ago and got burned and you are getting all excited about it?  Just like your imaginary "frequencies" and "vortices" everywhere you look?  You are falling into the same trap and getting intellectually burned yourself. So don't try to play this up and make a big deal about it because you are in the very same position now that I was in 25 years ago.  You are an invisible banana eater also - right now.  And there is also a big difference - there was no Internet back then so it was very difficult to do banana research.  But in your case you have a huge vast information base to do the research and inform yourself and know better - but you don't know any better and you are still eating air bananas and quite content to play the monkey.  That makes you a much dumber monkey than I was 25 years ago.

The moral of the story is that Chris is doing exactly the same thing right now in this thread.  That's the real story.

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« Reply #3608 on: June 19, 2015, 10:56:04 AM »
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I probably average about 0.1 commercials a day.

= you don't watch TV and nor have a need for one. Which means you can't really be closer to truth! I'm surprised an "intelligent" person cannot understand the science behind commercials. if you average 0.1 commercials a day, what channel are you watching each day? lol. You 00% lie to me regarding watching TV! Why do you find it that lying is the ANSWER? It is facts that for commercials to be profitable, more than 50% of the watchers have to fall for it...if you are saying 0.1 that means you are unique and disconnected from the corruption, BUT why waste energy "debating" with the CORRUPTED minds?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3609 on: June 19, 2015, 11:02:37 AM »
Now, let's take that metaphor and apply it it Chris.

Chris is trying to sell you an instructional package but there is no tape at all in each of the eight cassettes.

Do you understand what I am saying?
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What's at stake is actually big:  It's the principles we live by.  What are we, a bunch of idiot monkeys, or do we have a responsibility to be be honest with each other and work together to make the world a better place?

Chris is acting like an idiot monkey looking for idiot monkeys to join him.  They are going to eat invisible pantomime bananas.  The problem is that if you mindlessly sit there and mime eating a banana eventually you are going to "die intellectually" because a god damned air banana has no calories.
MileHigh

Hi MileHigh,

I fully understand what you are saying.  The core of the issue is not "right" or "wrong"

The issue here is that you are trying to convince the "inconvincable" , convert the prophet away of his own writing.
It is like you are trying to convince the "ISIL fundamentalist" in the deserts of Syria or Iraq to an other religion.  He is at the top of of his conviction.   The chances to convert this guy in the desert away from Jihad to peaceful Buddhism is out of reach in the present time.  Only time fixes these things

In the pursuit of your conviction, you started to act like a nagging wife.  Let it be that she has a point that is right in a certain context.  She would also know that we are not prepared to go there yet.  So she want to force the point, so she keep on nagging ...nagging.. and in this domineering process she does more harm than good.

Your viewpoint was stated way early on in this topic.
Your viewpoint is very correct and if measured against standard references is indisputable.
Chris happens to see it different, that is all. 

It is up to anybody else to interpret, analyze and extract whatever they might find useful in the posted information, let it be from Chris, from You or from Others.   
To convince with force is not appropriate from my viewpoint.

I can live with the difference,  can you?

Red_Sunset





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« Reply #3610 on: June 19, 2015, 11:09:08 AM »
Red_Sunset:

All very fine and nice sentiments and your points are valid.

But the truth usurps what you are saying.  The truth keeps on slipping away and that's not a good thing.

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« Reply #3611 on: June 19, 2015, 11:22:07 AM »
I see it from different point of view. You have 8 cassetes, full of tape, big book of example , descriptions, readings, technical data, experiments, interviews, stories about past masters, famous inventors and respectable scientists and school physics teachers and electrical engeneers working with power grid plant generators. You are almost there, you feel the smell and taste of good coffee you would drink while you are doing a big presentation on a large hall full of the people screaming : show us the magic ! show us the magic !.....


yet all the books are in some cryptic language nobody knew how to decipher and the cassettes ...well... they are in so strange shape that you are sure you coudn't listent to them without some millitary grade super secret device....  >:( [size=78%] [/size]

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« Reply #3612 on: June 19, 2015, 11:28:57 AM »
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I bought something 25 years ago and got burned and you are getting all excited about it? 

How are you 100% sure that you are not getting burned right now? YES! You figured out why you got burned back then, BUT, did you figured out why that person “burned” you? And, since you figured out why you got burned, the burning will stop? It is kind of obvious by now that making people change their mind requires outside opinions besides yours….even if you mean well for one person, that person needs two at least to reassure them. More than that, then you are wasting your time on a CRAZY person. Which could be interpreted as a “catfish” from that TV show.

AT any rate, you are telling me that YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN BURNED 25 YEARS AGO? Lol Ever since then, the government has never burnt you till this day? = which is 100% false!

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« Reply #3613 on: June 19, 2015, 11:44:14 AM »
Red_Sunset:

All very fine and nice sentiments and your points are valid.

But the truth usurps what you are saying.  The truth keeps on slipping away and that's not a good thing.

MileHigh,

"The truth keeps on slipping away"  or so it appears!
In our efforts to complete a puzzle, a piece might have been inserted in the wrong place but it appeared relevant at the given moment in time.  In time, it will become obvious that the piece doesn't belong there and must be relocated.
The correct location of this piece will transpire down the road as the picture of the puzzle becomes more clear and our contributed knowledge becomes extensive.  This is governed by where were are on the ladder of knowledge.

The power of a forum like this is the diverse viewpoints and different angles to attack a OU problem, In this pursuit we are not necessary on the same rung of the ladder to see or imagine/visualize the same thing.  So this requires some leeway.

Proofing is always the confirmation of the validity of an idea. 
Your objection is very valid in that area and I am sure most members here are sympathetic with you on that.

The question now is,  and what need contribution is..... "why"  ?
The unfortunately requires an elevation in ladder rungs which is difficult and time consuming in order to correct the appearance of a perceived OU situation.

Give it time,  your words will not go to waste.

Red_Sunset

 

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« Reply #3614 on: June 19, 2015, 01:54:33 PM »
Red_Sunset:

Simply put, that "empty cassette tape/invisible banana" analogy popped into my mind because of the frustration in reading Chris say the same platitudes over and over and the fact that he actually has zero information content in what he says.  It was just a new angle for fun.  Hence the empty cassette shells with no tape and the pantomime bananas.  It's just so strange to hear him say, "Come and join me and experiment" with no substance or content to what he says.

What is your technology?               Answer, "                                          ."
What do we need to understand?    Answer, "                                          ."

Yet he still makes his pitch as if it's all real.  It's just so bizarre.  It's actually Orwellian, sort of like "Zero Content Big Brother."

Where is your proof and supporting data?   Answer, "                                   ."

Then there is the 130+ years that transformers have been around.   A transformer is a transformer, it's as dead as a dead duck, it's as dead as a doornail.  If you do this "partnered output" wiring on the secondary, it's still as dead as a dead duck, it's still as dead as a doornail.

There is a complete disconnect between what Chris says and what he actually has.

Anyway, I am 98% confident this has fallen on deaf ears when it comes to Chris.  You know the old buzz phrase, "reality distortion zone."

But I am not losing any sleep over it, truly.  There is always the possibility of going into hibernation to wait for results.  Then you can imagine a science fiction movie where they discover me in the year 6543 in my hibernation pod.  They bring me back to life and I wake up and say, "Any results yet?" and Chris' great grandson 180th generation says, "Nope, but it works and we are still testing and hope to have some proof soon."

The follies of life....   And then in the year 6544 John Rohner comes out of _his_ hibernation pod and meets his great grandson 176th generation and together they say, "We will be demonstrating the amazing Papp engine for the first time at PowerGen 6545."

MileHigh

 

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