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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3555 on: June 17, 2015, 01:38:08 AM »
Hi emjunkie, are you just now coming to the conclusion that there is a malevolent et/interdimensional presence messing with humanity.
They are a minority though in the universe, so they will not be harassing humanity for ever, thank god.
peace love light
Well you are right!
 It has always been, and always will be.
The human history shows us just that.
What is not tolerant is that there is still people thinking that way that in the current times. So much wasted energy ...

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« Reply #3555 on: June 17, 2015, 01:38:08 AM »

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« Reply #3556 on: June 17, 2015, 02:03:07 AM »
Well you are right!
 It has always been, and always will be.
The human history shows us just that.
What is not tolerant is that there is still people thinking that way that in the current times. So much wasted energy ...

If you really believe that then EMJunkie is the "malevolent et/interdimensional presence" because he is promoting complete nonsense that he can't even explain himself.  The reason he can't explain it is because he actually has no real idea what to say because his knowledge level for this stuff is very low.  If he could actually show something then it could be evaluated.

Here is a thought experiment for you:

Suppose EMJunkie manages to get a surprisingly large number of followers.  Let's say for the sake of argument he gets 100 followers.  Let's say that each follower invests 50 hours of their time on the bench trying to get "results."  I put results in quotations because EMJunkie is not capable of explaining what the "results" are supposed to be.

So, 100 x 50 = 5000 hours of time invested in this project.

Just for fun, let's imagine that the average experimenter's time is worth $25 per hour.

Therefore the hypothetical opportunity cost for basically doing nothing useful or practical is 5000 x $25 = $125,000.

So, if you follow EMJunkie and you value your time on the bench because in English we have an expression, "Time is money," the there will be a virtual cash burn of $125,000.

Now, let's say for fun, that each of the 100 participants would be willing to donate some cash instead of wasting 50 hours of their time on the bench.   Suppose they were willing to contribute 10% of their time value towards donating equipment to the experimenter community.

So that is a virtual donation of $12,500.   Keeping it simple, we can say that that would be equivalent to about 24 brand new four-channel digital storage oscilloscopes.

Now that's an interesting thing to think about, isn't it?  You can waste a whole bunch of time that is 100% guaranteed to accomplish nothing, or, you can give 24 brand new four-channel digital storage oscilloscopes to the experimenter community.

If you had a choice between one option or the other, which one would you choose?

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« Reply #3557 on: June 17, 2015, 02:26:10 AM »
If you really believe that then EMJunkie is the "malevolent et/interdimensional presence" because he is promoting complete nonsense that he can't even explain himself.  The reason he can't explain it is because he actually has no real idea what to say because his knowledge level for this stuff is very low.  If he could actually show something then it could be evaluated.

Here is a thought experiment for you:

Suppose EMJunkie manages to get a surprisingly large number of followers.  Let's say for the sake of argument he gets 100 followers.  Let's say that each follower invests 50 hours of their time on the bench trying to get "results."  I put results in quotations because EMJunkie is not capable of explaining what the "results" are supposed to be.

So, 100 x 50 = 5000 hours of time invested in this project.

Just for fun, let's imagine that the average experimenter's time is worth $25 per hour.

Therefore the hypothetical opportunity cost for basically doing nothing useful or practical is 5000 x $25 = $125,000.

So, if you follow EMJunkie and you value your time on the bench because in English we have an expression, "Time is money," the there will be a virtual cash burn of $125,000.

Now, let's say for fun, that each of the 100 participants would be willing to donate some cash instead of wasting 50 hours of their time on the bench.   Suppose they were willing to contribute 10% of their time value towards donating equipment to the experimenter community.

So that is a virtual donation of $12,500.   Keeping it simple, we can say that that would be equivalent to about 24 brand new four-channel digital storage oscilloscopes.

Now that's an interesting thing to think about, isn't it?  You can waste a whole bunch of time that is 100% guaranteed to accomplish nothing, or, you can give 24 brand new four-channel digital storage oscilloscopes to the experimenter community.

If you had a choice between on e option or the other, which one would you choose?

Hi Milehigh , i simple don't need to choose,  because i have a financial supporter that supply me with the equipments and materials, so for me this not fit .
I dont do this for convince someone to donate to me .
 Only for curiosity , a have only 2 donations in 2 years of 10€ and 60€ that i use for buy my first scope . So not much ahh ...

I think that is not the case with Chris too, we have their own equipment . Because speculate about a "touchy" issue like this?
What a wicked mind Milehigh! I think you should not go around.
Differences aside, I do not sense the "hypothesis" that you place in table, so forget .
The same think that Chris does this for donations? lol
You know what reciprocity for sure.Not everyone thinks the same way.

bye



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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3558 on: June 17, 2015, 02:36:32 AM »
Hi Milehigh , i simple don't need to choose,  because i have a financial supporter that supply me with the equipments and materials, so for me this not fit .

I know that English is not your first language, but I still am going to assume that you can think logically and you understand that if a person asks you a question that your response should discuss the points and issues raised in the question.

Your response is silly nonsense.   An analogy for your response would be something like this:  "What exotic sports car do you prefer, Ferrari or Lamborghini?"  You then respond with this, "I don't prefer either because my financial supporter supplied me with an electric bicycle."

So, can you think straight and attempt to answer the hypothetical question or are you too scared to answer it?

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« Reply #3559 on: June 17, 2015, 02:45:05 AM »
Nelson:

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What a wicked mind Milehigh!

Don't fall into the trap of using silly and foolish rhetoric just like Chris and Mr. Peace, love and light.

I am not "wicked" and it's time for you to act like grown man and stop this.  We had a user named "Enjoykin" that did this all the time and when this issue was raised with Stefan he ran away like a humiliated and scared rabbit, presumably never to come back here.

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Offline nelsonrochaa

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« Reply #3560 on: June 17, 2015, 02:54:18 AM »
I know that English is not your first language, but I still am going to assume that you can think logically and you understand that if a person asks you a question that your response should discuss the points and issues raised in the question.

Your response is silly nonsense.   An analogy for your response would be something like this:  "What exotic sports car do you prefer, Ferrari or Lamborghini?"  You then respond with this, "I don't prefer either because my financial supporter supplied me with an electric bicycle."

So, can you think straight and attempt to answer the hypothetical question or are you too scared to answer it?

Sorry about English .
If i talk portuguese with you it will more difficulty certainly.
Why should I be afraid to answer?
I owe you anything?
Also not going to hurt me so :), what you say is something no sense.
Why do you ask me questions of this kind?
Where do you come up with this conversation? Just do not understand.
I'm not on the "team" of anyone. Understand that? I'm just on my own.
Only post when I want.
There seems to be a good team and the other bad...  ::)
Finish it with this please.
We walked here in circles with this conversation to fill "sausages" nothing more.
You will never hear from me what possibly would like to hear.
Thus we are just wasting time not you agree?
I expect you to stay as well.

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« Reply #3561 on: June 17, 2015, 03:05:08 AM »
I asked you a hypothetical question and you are refusing to answer.  So be it.

In life and in business, where you invest your personal time, energy, money, and resources is always a very important issue.  Therefore the hypothetical question I asked you is an interesting question and worth considering.  It's a perfectly valid question.  You are trying to be dismissive of the question and you are wrong.

Let's say you have a project and you go see an expert consultant.  You say to the consultant, "Please advise me on this project, it will take up 50 hours of my research time but I don't know if it is worth it.  Please advise me on the best thing to do."

The expert consultant evaluates the project and he says, "NO GO, this is a bad project."

You pay the expert consultant $125 for his services.

That was a GOOD DEAL.  The consultant saved you 50 hours of work wasted, and you paid him $125.

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« Reply #3562 on: June 17, 2015, 03:06:56 AM »
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There seems to be a good team and the other bad...

Time for you to stop.

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« Reply #3563 on: June 17, 2015, 11:37:39 AM »
Hi emjunkie, are you just now coming to the conclusion that there is a malevolent et/interdimensional presence messing with humanity.
They are a minority though in the universe, so they will not be harassing humanity for ever, thank god.
peace love light

hey SkyWatcher123,

No, I was being vicious!

You must come and join our forum! EMail me and I will set you up!

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« Reply #3564 on: June 17, 2015, 11:44:32 AM »
All while the Goon Squad quibble over the Who Said You Said ramblings that Crazy people are prone to investing their time into, the list of successful replications is growing!

We are making some real head way, the ball is now rolling.

Like I said, this is about as cheap and as easy that you will ever find to replicate and build a device that shows huge efficiencies. If you are worthy and wish to join my forum please contact me. Everything is free, no money, no donations, not a single thing is required except your dedication and hard work to improve your world!

Warning, trolls and idiots will be booted immediately! Trolls and Idiots need not apply!

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Offline nelsonrochaa

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« Reply #3565 on: June 17, 2015, 01:14:04 PM »
Time for you to stop.

Stop with what ? Are you fine ?
You start talk about  subject and now say that i need to stop..
I will stop answer to your questions . good for you ?
It was not what I wanted, but your petty spirit does not give me alternatives.I'll just start ignoring you.
In addition there are more people "capable" than you at this forum to speak on the subject partnered coils.
So do yourself a favor to yourself, follow your path that I follow mine.

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« Reply #3566 on: June 17, 2015, 04:16:11 PM »
Junkie!

Did you miss this?

<<< What technology are you talking about and what is it that we are not understanding?

If you say "go to page 1 of the thread" then you are going to get a virtual swift kick in the ass from me.  >>>
 

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« Reply #3567 on: June 17, 2015, 04:39:29 PM »
Stop with what ? Are you fine ?
You start talk about  subject and now say that i need to stop..
I will stop answer to your questions . good for you ?
It was not what I wanted, but your petty spirit does not give me alternatives.I'll just start ignoring you.
In addition there are more people "capable" than you at this forum to speak on the subject partnered coils.
So do yourself a favor to yourself, follow your path that I follow mine.

Stop this:  There seems to be a good team and the other bad...

Stop trying to say "Oh!  There are bad evil people here!  MileHigh and people like him are evil!"  It's complete nonsense and you make yourself look like a fool.

I am going to use Google Translate:

Pare com essa bobagem ridícula e agir como um homem adulto.  Você se faz parecer um idiota tentando fingir que sou uma má pessoa mal.  É hora de você crescer e agir como um homem.  O seu amigo EMJunkie não tem tecnologia e ele não entende de eletrônica.  Não tente dizer que estou mal.  Eu me ressinto-lo e você vai parar com isso agora.  Vou repetir, é hora de você agir como um homem adulto.  Quando pergunto a seu amigo para explicar sua suposta tecnologia que ele não pode fazê-lo.  A razão pela qual ele não pode fazê-lo é porque ele não tem tecnologia.  Se você estiver indo para falar comigo, fale comigo como um homem adulto e não como uma criança.   Eu quero que o mundo seja um lugar melhor para todos.  Quero que as pessoas que são trapaceiros e mentirosos para parar.  Seu amigo que joga com transformadores é um mentiroso e ele não tem nenhuma tecnologia.  Se você quiser discutir a tecnologia comigo que é bom, mas parar de dizer o tempo todo que eu sou uma má pessoa.  Estou esperando a sua loucura para parar.  Seu amigo EMJunkie nunca vai produzir energia livre com seus transformadores.  Quando ele se recusa a responder a quaisquer questões técnicas que ele olha como um tolo.  Essa é a verdade e eu tenho muitos anos de experiência em eletrônica.

Pare de tentar fingir que eu sou uma pessoa ruim.  Eu espero que você a agir como uma pessoa racional e não uma criança louca.

Now I hope we understand each other.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3568 on: June 17, 2015, 07:36:22 PM »
Stop this:  There seems to be a good team and the other bad...

Stop trying to say "Oh!  There are bad evil people here!  MileHigh and people like him are evil!"  It's complete nonsense and you make yourself look like a fool.

I am going to use Google Translate:

Pare com essa bobagem ridícula e agir como um homem adulto.  Você se faz parecer um idiota tentando fingir que sou uma má pessoa mal.  É hora de você crescer e agir como um homem.  O seu amigo EMJunkie não tem tecnologia e ele não entende de eletrônica.  Não tente dizer que estou mal.  Eu me ressinto-lo e você vai parar com isso agora.  Vou repetir, é hora de você agir como um homem adulto.  Quando pergunto a seu amigo para explicar sua suposta tecnologia que ele não pode fazê-lo.  A razão pela qual ele não pode fazê-lo é porque ele não tem tecnologia.  Se você estiver indo para falar comigo, fale comigo como um homem adulto e não como uma criança.   Eu quero que o mundo seja um lugar melhor para todos.  Quero que as pessoas que são trapaceiros e mentirosos para parar.  Seu amigo que joga com transformadores é um mentiroso e ele não tem nenhuma tecnologia.  Se você quiser discutir a tecnologia comigo que é bom, mas parar de dizer o tempo todo que eu sou uma má pessoa.  Estou esperando a sua loucura para parar.  Seu amigo EMJunkie nunca vai produzir energia livre com seus transformadores.  Quando ele se recusa a responder a quaisquer questões técnicas que ele olha como um tolo.  Essa é a verdade e eu tenho muitos anos de experiência em eletrônica.

Pare de tentar fingir que eu sou uma pessoa ruim.  Eu espero que você a agir como uma pessoa racional e não uma criança louca.

Now I hope we understand each other.

That rich translation Brazilian you did not will be good  because have much differences between Portuguese and Brazilian language .
In case you may know, the translation is not the same despite the Brazilian language come from the Portuguese.
I will simply disregard what you wrote because surely that was not what you wanted to write for thy speech has translated offensive words.

Chris is not my friend, only known from youtube and forum just like you and others.
The difference between us is that we have nothing in common, so we can even speak amicably.

Did you see Chris to talk in free energy, like put nothing and output something ? Is only a improvement !
I now that you don't agree , because you say ,a normal transformer will always be more efficient than the design of "partned coils"
I respect your point of view , but i do not agree , because i have my own reasons to believe in opposite .

About the tests that you suggest made to compare the two transformers only a observation :
They are not comparable, because they work at different frequencies, as well as the materials of a conventional transformer be designed according fa use of low frequencies 50 / 60Hz. How do you want to make comparisons of this kind? You think it's correct to compare them to me things like that?
We can not just  compare tho differents scenarios .
Of course is my opinion nothing more.
Thanks about your help but respectfully tell you that I am not interested in your knowledge on this subject.
 
Energy has always been free, the energy conversion process to make work is not free, because energy never consumed only becomes another kind of energy after performing work.
I do not know of you enough, for say that you are a bad person, you look a little egocentric, but not a bad person.
But people also can not be judged as to the call of liars only because have a different point of view .

What I mean is there are divided opinions, and you must agree with me that sometimes the reviews are very corrosive.
I believe you work many years on the area of electronica, and maybe you be good in what you do, but what to do with this on this subject ?

Do you think this knowledge that you learn in books or school over time is an absolute truth?
 The history shows us several changes that have occurred on subjects that were given to right, and will continue to happen.
Do you think we might be parked here?
 You do not believe in data review that were seen as certain, that may be reviewed in the future?
We have already discovered everything there was to find out, and we stagnate here?

This is only  a example of this changes over the time of story   :

Ben Franklin, who conducted extensive scientific studies in both static and current electricity, envisioned positive charges as the carriers of charge. As such, an early convention for the direction of an electric current was established to be in the direction that positive charges would move. The convention has stuck and is still used today. The direction of an electric current is by convention the direction in which a positive charge would move. Thus, the current in the external circuit is directed away from the positive terminal and toward the negative terminal of the battery. Electrons would actually move through the wires in the opposite direction. Knowing that the actual charge carriers in wires are negatively charged electrons may make this convention seem a bit odd and outdated. Nonetheless, it is the convention that is used worldwide and one that a student of physics can easily become accustomed to.

I hope you understand the meaning of what i write .

thanks

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« Reply #3569 on: June 17, 2015, 09:06:40 PM »
Nelson under what conditions do you believe that it is possible for a bucking coil configuration to be more efficient than a conventional transformer configuration?  Do you think that it is first necessary for the conventional transformer to be very inefficient?

 

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