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Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3450 on: June 10, 2015, 10:51:07 AM »
Again MarkE, all your belief's and Assumptions not ever provable on your part!

I have never given you any Measurements!

I have never given you anything but Solid Science, backed up by Experiment, that shows the same result every time.
LOL, your self-contradictions are quite humorous.  The fact remains that you have no evidence that supports your claims.  You are all hat and no cattle.
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But Assume all you like! I find it Funny!

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P.S: Assuming I am negating, modifying, or implying anything to any of the "Laws" of science that is not simply Engineering them for use, to do work, is merely speculation on your part.

That's all I am doing, I am USING the "Law's" of Science for practical use, to perform Work!

In other words, applying practical Engineering to the very same "Law's" you refuse to Challenge!
You can't change any natural laws.  And you have failed to show the extraordinary behaiors you claim.  What you have done is to demonstrate that you don't measure properly.  All your claims are GIGO.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3450 on: June 10, 2015, 10:51:07 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3451 on: June 11, 2015, 01:26:02 AM »
Chris!
You're a real cattle!
Human rule is not carved in stone.
It never will be.
Everything changes.
Everything is relative.
but:
The fundamental law of nature is eternal.
There are no written or set in stone.
XVI. century modern versions of perpetual motion concepts are made today.
All bullshit.
Lenz law: action and reaction.
This version of Newton's law of electromagnetic.
Neutral power does not create anything.
Do you understand?
Continue to move on, man!
No longer bother circles.
I wrote down what I wanted.
Topic closed my part.
I wish you success!
Points. :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(


@Idegen - Some of what you write, I like, some is mindless madness!

It is possible that the Human Race just might be the smartest, known, Species on this planet! Why is it that you think it impossible to Engineer Lenz's Law?

In time, each Partnered Output Coil, as long as the Partnered Output Coil's are carrying a Current, will each exhibit exactly the same Ampere Turns, they have to! If an Input, was the exciting current, to make small changes in time for each Ampere Turn in our Partnered Output Coils, then the Partnered Output Coils, would compensate, "Generate" Electricity according to known proven workable simple Laws of Science, that MarkE claims are being broken/refuted/disputed!

As of today, you, the reader have Videos, reports from multiple people, documents, all showing this exact Technology! Working!!! Right NOW!!!

So, dispute, refute, have a cry baby, Sook yourself Silly... But its real! Its here, its simple! Its Cheap! and its Free!!! Real Working Technology that has the potential to change the world forever!

The only catch, is you have to learn it, Build it, and pay it forward!!! Let our Children be Free and theirs! Do your Bit for Humanity now before its too late!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

P.S: I have been here, helping, offering advice where I can, most of the time.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3452 on: June 11, 2015, 01:47:47 AM »
@All - A partial List of devices known, all using the same technology I am:  (Not all Over Unity but most are)

Amplifying Transformer - Y. B. F. J. Groeneveld - 1927
Clemente Figuera - An electrical generator
Bill Alek - Split Flux Transformer
Magnetic resonance energy source - Alexander Naidenov
Alperen Magnetic Dragless Generator - Attila ALPEREN
Daniel McFarland Cook
Lester J. Hendershot
Andrey Melnichenko – Ferromagnetic Free Energy Generation
Igor Sokolov - Russes: Игорь Соколовский
Gennady Markov - Bidirectional Current Transformer
Paul Raymond Jensen – The UDT Transformer.
Sergdo - Sergey Dobrozhansky - Russes: Сергей Доброжанский
Mykhaylo Balush - Transformer testing: ''Free energy'' transformer.
Mishail1971 - Free Energy Transformer
Alexander Frolov - A Toroidal Over-Unity Generator
Earl Koenig
Raymond Kromrey - The Kromrey Converter

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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3453 on: June 11, 2015, 02:12:10 AM »
I mean, to you, the reader:

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140 W input and 1200 W output


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Published at first in New Energy News, USA, June 1994, p.9
Now, as wrote Dr. Hartmann, some research group from Germany tested it for over-unity, and it is working for 140 W input and 1200 W output, so it is the over-unity system, and it will be patented in Germany. Look text after my paper here or email to Dr. Hartmann.
From 1994 to present time I can not find any serious investor to patent it for Russia or as International patent. Perhaps you know who is interested? Let do it at last.
Some demonstartion for this idea was made in 1996, look photos and my report from New Ideas in Natural Sciences Conference.


URL: http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ph-machine.htm

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3454 on: June 11, 2015, 07:52:30 AM »
Until you read the article and see that it actually (and supposedly) took 1076W to produce 1200 watts (not 140).  Without seeing any additional info regarding measurements and the methods used to make them, it is way more likely that there was measurement error than there was OU.  Yes, proper measurements do indeed matter, else no claim whatsoever can be made (or believed).

Why do people believe that if input power only increases slightly when a load is applied or if a secondary is shorted that this somehow indicates OU?  More often, it means the device is very inefficient when not loaded.  As well, a shorted secondary rarely produces a maximum load on that secondary, as some would have us believe. 

PW 

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3455 on: June 11, 2015, 08:09:19 AM »
Until you read the article and see that it actually (and supposedly) took 1076W to produce 1200 watts (not 140).  Without seeing any additional info regarding measurements and the methods used to make them, it is way more likely that there was measurement error than there was OU.  Yes, proper measurements do indeed matter, else no claim whatsoever can be made (or believed).

Why do people believe that if input power only increases slightly when a load is applied or if a secondary is shorted that this somehow indicates OU?  More often, it means the device is very inefficient when not loaded.  As well, a shorted secondary rarely produces a maximum load on that secondary, as some would have us believe. 

PW

PW,

This is a different device. Please re read the article.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3456 on: June 11, 2015, 08:15:04 AM »

@Idegen - Some of what you write, I like, some is mindless madness!

It is possible that the Human Race just might be the smartest, known, Species on this planet! Why is it that you think it impossible to Engineer Lenz's Law?

In time, each Partnered Output Coil, as long as the Partnered Output Coil's are carrying a Current, will each exhibit exactly the same Ampere Turns, they have to! If an Input, was the exciting current, to make small changes in time for each Ampere Turn in our Partnered Output Coils, then the Partnered Output Coils, would compensate, "Generate" Electricity according to known proven workable simple Laws of Science, that MarkE claims are being broken/refuted/disputed!

As of today, you, the reader have Videos, reports from multiple people, documents, all showing this exact Technology! Working!!! Right NOW!!!

So, dispute, refute, have a cry baby, Sook yourself Silly... But its real! Its here, its simple! Its Cheap! and its Free!!! Real Working Technology that has the potential to change the world forever!

The only catch, is you have to learn it, Build it, and pay it forward!!! Let our Children be Free and theirs! Do your Bit for Humanity now before its too late!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

P.S: I have been here, helping, offering advice where I can, most of the time.
You keep spewing the same BS claims.  Yet you cannot produce any such evidence as you claim exists in their favor.  Be sure to let folks know when you have engineered and built a self powered device using your ideas.  With your claimed COPs of 1.7 and higher that should have been a trivial undertaking long ago.  But since your claims are false you have been unable to do such a thing.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3457 on: June 11, 2015, 08:17:09 AM »
You keep spewing the same BS claims.  Yet you cannot produce any such evidence as you claim exists in their favor.  Be sure to let folks know when you have engineered and built a self powered device using your ideas.  With your claimed COPs of 1.7 and higher that should have been a trivial undertaking long ago.  But since your claims are false you have been unable to do such a thing.

Hahahaha - You keep reading them!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3458 on: June 11, 2015, 08:22:14 AM »
PW,

This is a different device. Please re read the article.

   Chris Sykes
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From the article:
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The claims are: 1200 Watts coil out with about 1076.4 Watts in into the driving motor at 3450 RPM.
8 amps @117volts at noload
9.2 amps @117 volts at full load

The output of about 1200 Watts is already a total overunity operation !

As they just increase the input power by about 140 Watts only between idle and load state and they get 1200 Watts output it seems indeed a case, where Lenz law is violated ! (the driving motor
is inefficient in this case)

PW

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3459 on: June 11, 2015, 08:36:12 AM »
From the article:
PW

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/f-gener.gif
PW, What do you think this Picture means:

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/f-mach.gif

Compared to this:


Do you think there may be some sort of difference here? Gee whiz!! I wonder what this difference could be??? Rotary compared to Solid-State?

Read into this what you want PW, I care not what way you prefer to interpret reality! For, you will only know for sure if you are able to built it and see as I have. Read the Damn Article, Use some damn common-sense! Don't be a damn Fool!

   Chris Sykes
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P.S: Why would one, want to spend 1076.4 Watts to drive an AC Motor to Rotate a Permanent Magnet, when one can spend 140 Watts to do the same thing with an AC Current -  DAMN!!! Where did the Planets Common-Sense disappear to!!!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3460 on: June 11, 2015, 08:40:28 AM »
PW, What do you think this Picture means:

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/f-mach.gif

Compared to this:

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/f-gener.gif

Do you think there may be some sort of difference here? Gee whiz!! I wonder what this difference could be??? Rotary compared to Solid-State?

Read into this what you want PW, I care not what way you prefer to interpret reality! For, you will only know for sure if you are able to built it and see as I have. Read the Damn Article, Use some damn common-sense! Don't be a damn Fool!

   Chris Sykes
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Yes, I looked at the pictures in the article.  But I also read the "words".  Please quote the article, as I did, if you think it reads otherwise.

As for the insulting "don't be a damn fool", heed your own advice.

PW

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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« Reply #3461 on: June 11, 2015, 09:07:35 AM »
Yes, I looked at the pictures in the article.  But I also read the "words".  Please quote the article, as I did, if you think it reads otherwise.

As for the insulting "don't be a damn fool", heed your own advice.

PW

PW - Why would ANYONE use a 1 and 1/2 Horse Power AC Motor (1076.4 Watts) to turn a DRAG FREE Permanent Magnet to do the job of an Inductor (Shown!!!) that was measured to be 140 Watts???

Where in this world has all the Damn Common-Sense gone!!!

WOW, read the damn Article, use Common-Sense!!! Build the Damn device like I have!

This is absolutely UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3462 on: June 11, 2015, 09:11:33 AM »
HOW many times do you people need to be slapped in the face with these devices before you get the grey matter working!!!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #3463 on: June 11, 2015, 09:14:41 AM »
PW - Why would ANYONE use a 1 and 1/2 Horse Power AC Motor (1076.4 Watts) to turn a DRAG FREE Permanent Magnet to do the job of an Inductor (Shown!!!) that was measured to be 140 Watts???

Where in this world has all the Damn Common-Sense gone!!!

WOW, read the damn Article, use Common-Sense!!! Build the Damn device like I have!

This is absolutely UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

   Chris Sykes
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Again, please quote from the article where it says what you want to believe it says.

Indeed, as you say, where has common sense gone..

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« Reply #3464 on: June 11, 2015, 09:24:32 AM »

Again, please quote from the article where it says what you want to believe it says.

Indeed, as you say, where has common sense gone..

PW:

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some research group from Germany tested it for over-unity, and it is working for 140 W input and 1200 W output


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Published at first in New Energy News, USA, June 1994, p.9
Now, as wrote Dr. Hartmann, some research group from Germany tested it for over-unity, and it is working for 140 W input and 1200 W output, so it is the over-unity system, and it will be patented in Germany. Look text after my paper here or email to Dr. Hartmann.
From 1994 to present time I can not find any serious investor to patent it for Russia or as International patent. Perhaps you know who is interested? Let do it at last.
Some demonstartion for this idea was made in 1996, look photos and my report from New Ideas in Natural Sciences Conference.
Description of F-Machine and  F-Transformer
Alexander V. Frolov
The terms "F-machine" and "F-transformer" are connected with a form of magnetic flux force lines  for this type of system.


Fig.1
Fig.1 shows a device that uses permanent magnets as the rotor. The magnetic flux is concentrated in
ferromagnetic ring. The structure of this field consists of two parts. The direction of flux in one part is opposite to the direction of flux in the other part.

The coil L is an ordinary coil of wire. In strength of electromagnetic induction principle the electro-motive force EMF is generated  in coil L when rotor is revolving and flux H is changing. If the load is connected to coil L the secondary flux H is created.

The secondary flux tries to compensate any changes of the primary flux. Since in F-machine the secondary flux a created inside the ring it works against the primary flux only on half-period ot the ring, and it is co-directional to the primary flux in the other half-period of the ring.

The total effect of secondary flux is equal to zero.


Fig.2
Fig. 2 shows a similar version of bidirectional operation mode. The coil L1 is loaded with the AC generator.  The coils L2 and L3 create two opposite magnetic fluxes H2 and H3 Total effect of creation of power in loads is equal to zero.

The number of secondary coils is not limited. The value of power in one coil is a function of velocity of the primary flux changes similar to conventional calculations. The consolidation of secondary coils to increase total output power is possible after rectification of every current since currents in different coils are not coherent.

The general principle is the creation of a bidirectional  power process. It is not possible to get power in load without connection between cause and  effect but it is possible to create two opposite effects for one cause.

The total effect is equal to zero in this case.

Excerpt from article by Dr. Harold Aspden,"Three Experiments on Free Energy," Space Energy
Newsletter, Dec. 1993.
According to Dr. Aspden this "experiment (his Fig.1) gives the "free energy" answer, but he wrote: "to my surprise, with the coil arrangement shown in (Aspden's) Fig. 2. I found that the free energy becomes available well below the knee of the B-H curve at quite normal flux densities! Even at one-fifth of magnetic saturation levels, the excess free energy potential can exceed the  input power and give a twice-unity factor of   performance".


 It is clear that Dr. Aspden will value the idea of the F-Generator and F-Motor. His Fig. 2 shows the same situation for magnetic flux superposition that is described above in the F-Generator scheme.


 

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