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### Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 3329227 times)

#### picowatt

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##### Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2625 on: May 16, 2015, 01:10:34 AM »
Picowatt - I think you may be confused here?

You're quoting Efficiencies....

I used the Term COP - Coefficient of Performance.

Are you trying to prove some sort of point?

The fact remains, the Hydraulic Ram Pump, once started, does not require any Input from You or Me, once started, it runs itself!!! This is a COP = Infinity!!! If you are disputing this, please explain!

Chris

Less energy is output in the form of the increased head at lower flow than must be input to the system via the input head and flow rate.

Although this may be "free" energy if one has an unlimited source of water at a given head, I would consider a ram pump to be a COP of much less than one.  Ram pumps produce a lot of waste water and are, overall, quite lossy.

A "COP=Infinity" would, to me, indicate that self looping would be possible, which clearly is not possible with a lossy and inefficient ram pump

Although hydro plants, solar, or wind generators may be considered "free energy" in some sense as they utilize a freely available source of energy, I would not consider them "overunity" or having a "COP=infinity".

#### MileHigh

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##### Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2626 on: May 16, 2015, 01:18:12 AM »
Quote
The device uses the water hammer effect to develop pressure that allows a portion of the input water that powers the pump to be lifted to a point higher than where the water originally started.

It's a boost converter!  It's a switching power supply - mechanical version.  Powered by a fusion reactor.

You have to know how to read in between the lines.

Brought to you by the biggest free lunch in the sky - the Universe!

#### picowatt

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« Reply #2627 on: May 16, 2015, 01:27:51 AM »
It's a boost converter!  It's a switching power supply - mechanical version.  Powered by a fusion reactor.

You have to know how to read in between the lines.

Brought to you by the biggest free lunch in the sky - the Universe!

I can already see the Kickstarter for "fusion powered" water pump kits.

#### EMJunkie

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##### Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2628 on: May 16, 2015, 02:00:26 AM »
Less energy is output in the form of the increased head at lower flow than must be input to the system via the input head and flow rate.

Although this may be "free" energy if one has an unlimited source of water at a given head, I would consider a ram pump to be a COP of much less than one.  Ram pumps produce a lot of waste water and are, overall, quite lossy.

A "COP=Infinity" would, to me, indicate that self looping would be possible, which clearly is not possible with a lossy and inefficient ram pump

Although hydro plants, solar, or wind generators may be considered "free energy" in some sense as they utilize a freely available source of energy, I would not consider them "overunity" or having a "COP=infinity".

Picowatt - COP = Q/W

Where:
Q = Energy Supplied
W = Work Done

In our case, we are only considering the Work we have to put into the System. Which is Zero

Example:

COP = 1/0 = Infinity

I am sure all here would be very happy with any System that runs itself!!!

Do you pay for the Magnetic Field after the Magnet has been manufactured? No!

View this how you will.

#### EMJunkie

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##### Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2629 on: May 16, 2015, 02:13:33 AM »
It's a boost converter!  It's a switching power supply - mechanical version.  Powered by a fusion reactor.

You have to know how to read in between the lines.

Brought to you by the biggest free lunch in the sky - the Universe!

MileHigh, I find this post rather Arrogant? Did you intent it this way?

Surely the entire point of being present here in this forum is to find ways to Power our Electrical Appliances via the cheapest possible ways? Preferably Free of Cost to Us, the End User!

I don't see what the problem is here?

Why is this fact so hard for you guys?

#### picowatt

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« Reply #2630 on: May 16, 2015, 02:15:01 AM »
Picowatt - COP = Q/W

Where:
Q = Energy Supplied
W = Work Done

In our case, we are only considering the Work we have to put into the System. Which is Zero

Example:

COP = 1/0 = Infinity

I am sure all here would be very happy with any System that runs itself!!!

Do you pay for the Magnetic Field after the Magnet has been manufactured? No!

View this how you will.

Regarding a ram pump, the energy supplied is greater than the work done.  The system does not "run itself".

I am sure many of us would be happy to have an unlimited amount of hydropower available for harnessing.

Although a ram pump may be considered as using "free" energy if water at a given head is freely available, an audit of the energy supplied to the pump versus the work performed would demonstrate a COP of less than 1.

#### EMJunkie

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##### Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2631 on: May 16, 2015, 02:33:37 AM »
Regarding a ram pump, the energy supplied is greater than the work done.  The system does not "run itself".

I am sure many of us would be happy to have an unlimited amount of hydropower available for harnessing.

Although a ram pump may be considered as using "free" energy if water at a given head is freely available, an audit of the energy supplied to the pump versus the work performed would demonstrate a COP of less than 1.

If you want to consider all the energy in Nature as an Input Energy, then this is your Choice!

I am ONLY talking about the Energy you, as the end user has to put Into the system!

Really if you don't start considering your Input as a separate source, then, in my opinion, you can never gauge the success of your work!

So, I disagree, a System can Run Itself! Energy is Everywhere! No matter where the Energy come from, as Long as You the End User does not have to keep paying to run the System!

Really, this is a ridiculous time wasting debate! You know what I mean and are arguing for the sake of arguing!

#### Pirate88179

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« Reply #2632 on: May 16, 2015, 03:34:04 AM »
Well, since it is obvious that Chris STILL does not know what the AC Coupling setting on his scope means, or how it alters his readings (something
even a beginner scope user learns on day one.) then all we can conclude is that he is a Bloviating Nincompoop.

Could he have read the manual for his scope and learned this?

Of course.

Why didn't he do that?

Who knows.

When he was alerted to his MISTAKE early on in this topic, (By folks that obviously know a lot more about scope usage than he does) why didn't he just admit that he had no idea and make the changes?

Well, easy, then he would have to retract his False Claims and ADMIT he was wrong.

So, he sticks to his error ridden results and calls anyone who points out his errors (and there are many) Trolls.

Anyone, and I mean anyone that claims that MarkE, TK, MH, Phi, and now Tinman, do not know what they are talking about is nothing more than
a Bloviating Nincompoop.

He can cry all he wants to about how everyone is suppressing his "genius' ideas yet, he does not know the basics on how to use a scope.

Once again, I have to point out that doing illegal drugs can have a terrible effect on your brain.

Please kids, do not end up like Chris, just say no.

Bill

#### EMJunkie

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« Reply #2633 on: May 16, 2015, 03:41:11 AM »

Bill

Bill - Youre still so desperately Inbred!

The day is coming, very soon you will have to admit that I am right, its undeniable!

To dispute what I have given, is to dispute every "Electrical Generator" that has ever given a single Joule of Energy!

You keep being the Fool Bill - I bet Bell Lab's Daddy and also Bell Lab's would be extremely proud of you and your behaviour!

Have fun while you can Bill!!!

Chris

#### picowatt

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« Reply #2634 on: May 16, 2015, 03:45:23 AM »

If you want to consider all the energy in Nature as an Input Energy, then this is your Choice!

I am ONLY talking about the Energy you, as the end user has to put Into the system!

Really if you don't start considering your Input as a separate source, then, in my opinion, you can never gauge the success of your work!

So, I disagree, a System can Run Itself! Energy is Everywhere! No matter where the Energy come from, as Long as You the End User does not have to keep paying to run the System!

Really, this is a ridiculous time wasting debate! You know what I mean and are arguing for the sake of arguing!

Fill an elevated tank with water, connect the bottom of the tank to the inlet of a ram pump, connect the outlet of the ram pump to the top of your elevated tank.  How long does the pump run?  What is the COP of the pump under these conditions?  Most flat-landers would consider a ram pump as having a COP infinitely less than a COP of infinity.

And no, I am not arguing for the sake of arguing.  If you live where there is a no cost to you, readily available and unlimited supply of water at a given head, you can harness "free" energy with the ram pump, but I would never state that the ram pump has a COP of infinity.

By your definition, all solar powered systems (ram pumps, hydro, photovoltaic, wind, thermal collection, etc) have a COP of infinity, and I would disagree with that definition.  Most of those systems are quite inefficient and only benefit from their source of energy being "free" cost wise.

However, I do apologize for this off topic distraction.

Carry on with presenting your evidence of free energy from partnered coils...

#### Pirate88179

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« Reply #2635 on: May 16, 2015, 03:50:19 AM »

Bill - Youre still so desperately Inbred!

The day is coming, very soon you will have to admit that I am right, its undeniable!

To dispute what I have given, is to dispute every "Electrical Generator" that has ever given a single Joule of Energy!

You keep being the Fool Bill - I bet Bell Lab's Daddy and also Bell Lab's would be extremely proud of you and your behaviour!

Have fun while you can Bill!!!

Chris

You know Chris, it would be really great if you left my deceased Father out of any conflict between you and me.  If you have a problem with any thing I type..fine...attack me.  I can defend myself, as has been proven over 100 times now and counting.  But, to insult and attack someone's dead Father is pretty low, even for you.  Yet you keep doing it over and over.

I have let it go for now...but, enough is enough.

Attack me,...insult me...show some proof maybe?  But, let's leave dead parents out of the equation...what do you say?

Bill

PS  It is possible that you did not know. (He passed away in 2008)  It has been mentioned on several topics but, maybe not ones you have read.  So, I'll give you that.  Let's just go forward from here.

#### EMJunkie

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« Reply #2636 on: May 16, 2015, 09:03:07 AM »

Fill an elevated tank with water.....

Picowatt - Why on this Beautiful Spherical Earth, would one want to go about using a Hydraulic Ram Pump by approaching the situation first by Filling a Water Head....

Its just NOT HOW one uses a Hydraulic Ram Pump!

A Hydraulic Ram Pump and the working principals behind the operation of it, use Natures Generosity... Rain Fall and existing Water Reservoirs and Gravity to Operate!!! Nothing else but these Principals.

I am not having a go at you, I simply just don't understand why one would approach an Energy Problem like this.

#### Pirate88179

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« Reply #2637 on: May 16, 2015, 09:06:04 AM »

I am not having a go at you, I simply just don't understand why one would approach an Energy Problem like this.

Obviously, there is a lot you do not understand.  You continue to prove this point over, and over again.  For example...the AC coupling setting on your scope.

Bill

#### EMJunkie

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« Reply #2638 on: May 16, 2015, 09:34:56 AM »
You know Chris, it would be really great if you left my deceased Father out of any conflict between you and me.  If you have a problem with any thing I type..fine...attack me.  I can defend myself, as has been proven over 100 times now and counting.  But, to insult and attack someone's dead Father is pretty low, even for you.  Yet you keep doing it over and over.

I have let it go for now...but, enough is enough.

Attack me,...insult me...show some proof maybe?  But, let's leave dead parents out of the equation...what do you say?

Bill

PS  It is possible that you did not know. (He passed away in 2008)  It has been mentioned on several topics but, maybe not ones you have read.  So, I'll give you that.  Let's just go forward from here.

Bill - Maybe you should re-think your attack?

I have pretty thick skin, I could not careless what others say! I have one goal, try the best I can, to do something useful for Humanity!

My Dad also passed away, but hey, that's life. Nothing nasty was said about your dear Daddy, so best you suck it up and carry on like a man!

Attack me all you can, but if you cant handle the heat, best get out of the Fry Pan!

Chris

#### EMJunkie

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« Reply #2639 on: May 16, 2015, 09:47:00 AM »
Obviously, there is a lot you do not understand.  You continue to prove this point over, and over again.  For example...the AC coupling setting on your scope.

Bill

Bill - At Bell Labs, back when you're Daddy was working for them, he called all major Oscilloscope Manufacturers and explained that their Oscilloscopes were all wrong and had to all have the AC Coupling removed from all their Lines of Manufacture... He did this to try to prove that the scopes were all wrong and had to only have DC Coupling!

Hahahahaha - Bill you're the Biggest FOOL on the Planet after MarkE!!!! You GOON!!!

If you only knew how stupid you look right now.

Bill (GOON) and all the other GOONs that agree that DC Coupling MUST have been used, because you made an ASSUMPTION along with MarkE's ridiculous Idiocies and TinselKoala's comments, that he later retracted because I had proven to him that I had checked the required possible measurement flaws, yet again I prove you to be an Idiot!

OMG - Daddy would be so very much ashamed of you right now Bill Goon Labs!!!

Chris

P.S: AC Coupling is TOTALLY Correct for an AC Wave if one has checked for possible DC Offset - So Bill, you've yet again proven to all of the readers that you again don't know what you're talking about - Inbred Fool!