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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 3329182 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2610 on: May 15, 2015, 11:45:35 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on May 15, 2015, 10:09:35 AM
Well done MarkE - You can Read! Excellent start!
Do you still hold the view you expressed in post #94 or not?
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2611 on: May 15, 2015, 11:49:26 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on May 15, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
@Tinman - MarkE is trying to be Amazing again - Ignore the Troll...

Stan Meyer used a variant of this Circuit. When this Circuit is done correctly, and as I stated before the GOON Squad started the ASSUMPTION Train, it was supposed to a "Resonant" Charging Circuit for a HHO Cell, which essentially was a Capacitor!!!

But alas, the GOON Squad could not keep their Beef Jerky in their pants and went off on all sorts of tangents!!! Some not even completing the Circuit properly and others giving up simply because it was too hard.

This is the Trolls Job!

Very Poorly Replicated Circuits that do not follow any of the given guidelines!

So, Stan Meyer's VIC is now Trollified also!

What a total mess!!! I just shake my head at these Buffoons!
You presented the circuit.  What do you think the scope measures when it is connected as you show it?  What do you think it shows when you move the probe ground connection to the bottom of the resistor which causes as you noted a:  "huge difference"?
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Offline tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2612 on: May 15, 2015, 11:51:06 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on May 15, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
@Tinman - MarkE is trying to be Amazing again - Ignore the Troll...

Stan Meyer used a variant of this Circuit. When this Circuit is done correctly, and as I stated before the GOON Squad started the ASSUMPTION Train, it was supposed to a "Resonant" Charging Circuit for a HHO Cell, which essentially was a Capacitor!!!

But alas, the GOON Squad could not keep their Beef Jerky in their pants and went off on all sorts of tangents!!! Some not even completing the Circuit properly and others giving up simply because it was too hard.

This is the Trolls Job!

Very Poorly Replicated Circuits that do not follow any of the given guidelines!

So, Stan Meyer's VIC is now Trollified also!

What a total mess!!! I just shake my head at these Buffoons!
Im afraid good old stans work just didnt work. There have been literally thousands of people trying to replicate Stans HHO system's,and to date,no one has been successful-->there's a reason for that EMJ. People often get confused with current loop system's,and im a clasic example. So much current,but not a drop to use. What i mean by that is,if you draw say 1 amp,the current in the loop may drop by 2 amp's-->it depends on the system as to what ratio you can draw,as to what go's missing in the loop. But more always go's missing than what you draw.
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2613 on: May 15, 2015, 11:56:30 AM »
Quote from: tinman on May 15, 2015, 11:22:23 AM
The scope would be measuring the big current loop between L1,L2 and L3-not to mention that the 10 ohm wire wound resistor would also be inductive.
I want to know what EMJ thinks he's measuring in this set-up that he published.
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2614 on: May 15, 2015, 02:42:24 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2615 on: May 15, 2015, 02:55:02 PM »
Quote from: a.king21 on May 15, 2015, 02:42:24 PM
"Overunity"  is real:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds

Let's see the excuses from the know-it-alls here now... ;)
'Well, er... it's just pulling in heat energy from its surroundings so it is really not over unity... blah blah blah...'  ;D
Ok, call it COP >1 then, but it can also be described as over unity in my view... ;)

This is really interesting as some of the LEDS I have been experimenting with over the last year or so
have been giving me some odd results, but it is on such a low power scale that I can't realistically draw
any conclusions from it, as I just can't rule out measurement error at such low power levels. 
I posted some scope screen shot examples and details earlier in this thread. :)

All the best...

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Offline yg_34

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2616 on: May 15, 2015, 03:01:09 PM »
The LED produces 69 picowatts of light using 30 picowatts of power.
I think all of us would prefer a led using 69 picowatts of light to produce 30 picowatts of power  ;)
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2617 on: May 15, 2015, 03:01:46 PM »
Quote from: Void on May 15, 2015, 02:55:02 PM
Let's see the excuses from the know-it-alls here now... ;)
'Well, er... it's just pulling in heat energy from its surroundings so it is really not over unity... blah blah blah...'  ;D
Ok, call it COP >1 then, but it can also be described as over unity in my view... ;)

This is really interesting as some of the LEDS I have been experimenting with over the last year or so
have been giving me some odd results, but it is on such a low power scale that I can't realistically draw
any conclusions from it, as I just can't rule out measurement error at such low power levels. 
I posted some scope screen shot examples and details earlier in this thread. :)

All the best...
Well there not overunity,as we know where the energy above that of what we put in is coming from. The LED will convert heat and light into electrical energy-->this has been known for many years. So how is it these clowns think they have found something new?.

Some times i really wonder about our !so called! brilliant scientist. No wonder were not getting anywhere. The same go's for NASA,and some of the junk they put together-->i've seen better back yard builds.
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Offline Void

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2618 on: May 15, 2015, 03:08:43 PM »
Quote from: tinman on May 15, 2015, 03:01:46 PM
Well there not overunity,as we know where the energy above that of what we put in is coming from. The LED will convert heat and light into electrical energy-->this has been known for many years. So how is it these clowns think they have found something new?.
Some times i really wonder about our !so called! brilliant scientist. No wonder were not getting anywhere. The same go's for NASA,and some of the junk they put together-->i've seen better back yard builds.

That article is from 2012. ;)
Actually scientists in general seem to be doing just fine...
All the best...

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2619 on: May 15, 2015, 03:57:25 PM »
Quote from: Void on May 15, 2015, 02:55:02 PM
Let's see the excuses from the know-it-alls here now... ;)
Thre are no excuses, it is an exotic heat pump.
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'Well, er... it's just pulling in heat energy from its surroundings so it is really not over unity... blah blah blah...'  ;D
Ok, call it COP >1 then, but it can also be described as over unity in my view... ;)
Maybe you also want to call your air conditioner over unity as well, but you won't be getting any free energy from either device.
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This is really interesting as some of the LEDS I have been experimenting with over the last year or so
have been giving me some odd results, but it is on such a low power scale that I can't realistically draw
any conclusions from it, as I just can't rule out measurement error at such low power levels. 
I posted some scope screen shot examples and details earlier in this thread. :)

All the best...
Low power measurements especially those using pulses throw a lot of people off.  Former physics professor Steven Jones thought he was getting 8X over unity because he did not understand how to set-up and check his measurements.
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Offline Void

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2620 on: May 15, 2015, 04:02:18 PM »
LOL! :D
MarkE, I know very well about the potential for measurement error... I mentioned it in my comment...

It's interesting that some other claimed over unity devices also sometimes mention
that a lowering of temperature was observed. I believe that was mentioned for the Floyd Sweet device for example,
if I recall correctly.
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2621 on: May 15, 2015, 10:55:59 PM »
Guys,

Really, anyone with the most infinitesimal spec of common-sense surely could not argue: X to run a Circuit/Machine that produces X + Y is Overunity!

A Hydraulic Ram Pump is COP = Infinity - I have to put no Input in to the System!

This simply cant be argued! Not by any sane mind!

   Chris
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2622 on: May 15, 2015, 11:03:00 PM »
This is how it is - Period!!! - Simply!!!

   1: Partnered Output Coils (Two Output Coils) configured such that the Magnetic Field's (Lenz's Law EMF = -dPhi/dt) Oppose each other!
   2: A cost effective way to excite the Coils - Input
   3: Some patience and perseverance!

These three things will give you Over Unity! If you properly follow these three rules, it will happen eventually! If you cant grasp and complete these three tasks then you should not be here!!!

No amount of debate or petty manipulations via fancy misconceptions or out right LIES will ever change this! It will always hold true in to the ages...

   Chris
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2623 on: May 16, 2015, 12:52:07 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on May 15, 2015, 10:55:59 PM
A Hydraulic Ram Pump is COP = Infinity - I have to put no Input in to the System!

This simply cant be argued! Not by any sane mind!

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_ram


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A typical energy efficiency is 60%, but up to 80% is possible. This should not be confused with the volumetric efficiency, which relates the volume of water delivered to total water taken from the source. The portion of water available at the delivery pipe will be reduced by the ratio of the delivery head to the supply head. Thus if the source is 2 meters above the ram and the water is lifted to 10 meters above the ram, only 20% of the supplied water can be available, the other 80% being spilled via the waste valve. These ratios assume 100% energy efficiency. Actual water delivered will be further reduced by the energy efficiency factor. In the above example, if the energy efficiency is 70%, the water delivered will be 70% of 20%, i.e. 14%. Assuming a 2 to one supply head to delivery head ratio and 70% efficiency, the delivered water would be 70% of 50%, i.e. 35%. Very high ratios of delivery to supply head usually result in lowered energy efficiency. Suppliers of rams often provide tables giving expected volume ratios based on actual tests



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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2624 on: May 16, 2015, 12:56:45 AM »
Quote from: picowatt on May 16, 2015, 12:52:07 AM
From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_ram

Picowatt - I think you may be confused here?

You're quoting Efficiencies....

I used the Term COP - Coefficient of Performance.

Are you trying to prove some sort of point?

The fact remains, the Hydraulic Ram Pump, once started, does not require any Input from You or Me, once started, it runs itself!!! This is a COP = Infinity!!! If you are disputing this, please explain!

   Chris
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