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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #240 on: January 24, 2015, 06:54:58 AM »
@Wistiti

hi all!
my result until now. (with what i have on hand...)

Tv yoke split in 2 part as the core.The 2 peices of the core have a gap of around 2mm with electric tape and paper. Buckink coil wound on each part of the core 400 turns 30awg each coil. Primary (or trigger coil) 2 strand twisted litz like wire 50 turns over one secondary coil. The primary (or trigger coil) is trigger with a joule thief like circuit. I have a 50k resistor to the base of a 2n3055 transistor for adjusting the frequency.

Nice! If you can, please post Pic! Sounds excellent!

My result clearly depend on the frequency... at some point, when the output is shorted, the amp draw on the input goes higher. But when i tune it to is best, the input went to 400ma no load to 293 shorted! there is definitely something there...  :)

Yes, superb. This is one of the effects!

Nice Work Wistiti!

So, from here, play around, try to improve it.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #240 on: January 24, 2015, 06:54:58 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #241 on: January 24, 2015, 07:10:46 AM »
Hi folks, Hi wistiti, yes that is what I am seeing also when using a single transistor blocking oscillator setup, even though my primary is next to the partnered coils and not on top of one of them, seems to function the same.

Though so far with this flip flop driver setup, I am observing a little different behavior, this driver outputs an ac type wave.
The partnered coils when loaded with say a 1 kohm resistor, the amp draw is highest at around 670 milliamps.
When i use a resistor load of 500 ohms, the amp draw decreases from that level.
When i use a 220 ohm resistor, the amp draw drops even further and dead short gives the lowest amp draw of around 240 milliamps.

However, the unloaded amp draw is around 80 milliamps and the unloaded voltage at partner coils is around 32 volts AC with 7.4 input volts DC.
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #242 on: January 24, 2015, 09:12:27 AM »
Hi Em and all!
here is a picture of my replication on a tv yoke core. i play moore with it and i blew the transistor... may be to much voltage ...
I find a ferrite rod inside an old radio i have. I will try on it the next time. very interesting phenomen. Thank again to have share it with us!
Now i have to go sleep; it will be a short night... again! :)
Ciao!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #242 on: January 24, 2015, 09:12:27 AM »
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Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #243 on: January 24, 2015, 09:19:59 AM »
Guys,  As I believe it is still about the same I would like to share some findings related to "One way Transformer"  which I believe works on similar or same principle.
Some info what it is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fZT7PvEGKU

I have made two types, the larger one is made of inner and outer partner coils and between I have several independent coils (see picture below)  The thing is I tested it with many many LED stripes and more I connected I didn't register any increase in consumption. In fact in some cases it went down- again the result relates to the right frequency.  Also it didn't work as an air core. I had to put ferite rods in to the coils. I wasn't lucky enough to lit incandescent bulb. It probably needs some more tuning.  Any way- same or similar principle.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #244 on: January 24, 2015, 09:25:29 AM »
Guys,  As I believe it is still about the same I would like to share some findings related to "One way Transformer"  which I believe works on similar or same principle.
Some info what it is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fZT7PvEGKU

I have made two types, the larger one is made of inner and outer partner coils and between I have several independent coils (see picture below)  The thing is I tested it with many many LED stripes and more I connected I didn't register any increase in consumption. In fact in some cases it went down- again the result relates to the right frequency.  Also it didn't work as an air core. I had to put ferite rods in to the coils. I wasn't lucky enough to lit incandescent bulb. It probably needs some more tuning.  Any way- same or similar principle.


Wow!
Good job John!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #244 on: January 24, 2015, 09:25:29 AM »
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #245 on: January 24, 2015, 09:48:41 AM »
SkyWatcher123, Wistiti and John.K1,

Excellent work Guys!!!

If you like, you can try resonating your input @ the frequency you guys are working at. It did improve my setup slightly! Aim for max Q Factor on the input.

LC Tank Circuit for example.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #246 on: January 24, 2015, 10:38:32 AM »
Ordinary 1.2V PNP Joule Thief draws LESS current, or nearly the same, when 24 LED load is CONNECTED, and draws MORE current when load is DISCONNECTED:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLsOCYPCvGc

Now I can haz cheezburger?
 

Yes, amazing ... except when I do it. Then it's just something you can ignore or insult me about.

one humble note: I forgot to say that same results at Amp draw using a 20W- 300K resistor as a load (and even shorted) . . .sorry

TK: I have been in this forum for some years now, learning and posting my failures and successes, and I know (and value) the high level of your knowledge and therefore, I can detect when you spread that acid sense of humor of yours, so. . . no offense here ! (I have never insulted anyone in this or other forums)

But,  I will be very much more grateful, if you would change your mood and switch on a more cooperative one.  With your building skills and measuring expertise, it would be a great help !!
Knowing about your honesty, I guess you have already replicated this simple device, and made your accurate measurements and scope shots, so please, be kind of posting such results and analysis. Thanks

Alvaro



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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #246 on: January 24, 2015, 10:38:32 AM »
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Offline alan

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #247 on: January 24, 2015, 12:50:50 PM »
It would be nice to know the output current, loaded and shorted.

Finally got an old crt monitor for its transformer core.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #248 on: January 24, 2015, 04:41:23 PM »
The thing is I tested it with many many LED stripes and more I connected I didn't register any increase in consumption. In fact in some cases it went down- again the result relates to the right frequency. 

Hi John.K1. I have also been testing with lots of different transformer arrangements and tesla coils, etc., over the
last few years and I have also seen on a number of occasions where adding a load doesn't increase the input current,
or the input current may even drop a bit, but as you likely already know, that in no way necessarily means that you
have some sort of over unity effect occurring. Often more power will dissipate in the driver circuitry as well as in
the transformer windings if there is no load, or if the load is not a good impedance match. Adding or changing a load
can shift some of the power dissipation from the driver circuitry and transformer windings more to the load, and therefore
not increase the input current, and it all depends on the exact configuration. Therefore of course the only way to tell if
you are getting more power out than being put into the circuit is to make proper input and output power measurements.
Just monitoring input current will not tell you anything about the overall device efficiency.
All the best...

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #248 on: January 24, 2015, 04:41:23 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #249 on: January 24, 2015, 07:19:09 PM »
Hi Void,  Exactly. I do not state any OU , yet :) And as you know I do not accept any Lights as a measure of OU. Even measurements can be tricked. The only and best way to prove OU  is to have it as self runner.

Good luck

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #250 on: January 24, 2015, 07:46:11 PM »
Hi Void,  Exactly. I do not state any OU , yet :) And as you know I do not accept any Lights as a measure of OU. Even measurements can be tricked. The only and best way to prove OU  is to have it as self runner.
Good luck

For sure John. Keep at it.  :)
All the best...

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #250 on: January 24, 2015, 07:46:11 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #251 on: January 24, 2015, 08:07:18 PM »
@ALL,

Are you guys happy that you have an understanding of what's going on in the coils?

Can you see that this device a Valve of sorts?

A Magnetic Gate?

Kind Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #252 on: January 24, 2015, 08:51:15 PM »
EMJunkie, to be honnest - 50-50
If that device would work also as Air core  I would say- I do understand. But, because it is not working for me, it means there must be some gap in my understanding. :)
Back to my Air core bucked coil tube. Thinking about it now, it is like two Tesla coils facing against each other and connected together at the bottoms and at the top. Sure winding is in opposite way.  My HV probe doesn't show HV on neither end of the bucked coil, just in the middle(strongest electric field). And my LED probe (small coil with LED) has highest intensity at the bottom and top (strongest magnetic field) and especially inside of the tube. The  continuos flow of current in the bucket coil has large impact on the intensity of my LED probe. When closed loop (shorted with resisitive load) the intensity of light (magnetic field)is High.  So my understanding of the fields structure around the device  from the bottom is   Amps - HV - Amps?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #253 on: January 24, 2015, 09:32:18 PM »
one humble note: I forgot to say that same results at Amp draw using a 20W- 300K resistor as a load (and even shorted) . . .sorry

TK: I have been in this forum for some years now, learning and posting my failures and successes, and I know (and value) the high level of your knowledge and therefore, I can detect when you spread that acid sense of humor of yours, so. . . no offense here ! (I have never insulted anyone in this or other forums)

But,  I will be very much more grateful, if you would change your mood and switch on a more cooperative one.  With your building skills and measuring expertise, it would be a great help !!
Knowing about your honesty, I guess you have already replicated this simple device, and made your accurate measurements and scope shots, so please, be kind of posting such results and analysis. Thanks

Alvaro

TK'S perhaps waiting for a "New Moon" to prowl the back alleys for building parts under cover of darkness.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #254 on: January 24, 2015, 09:41:13 PM »
I prepared a coil former for "partnered output coils" (not yet wound), see the attached photo and specification.


I intend to wind the partnered output coils like this:


- 0.25 mm diameter enamelled wired (~ 30 AWG)

- each partnered coil has 5 layers, each 65 turns --> ~330 turns + ~330 turns

- the input coil is wound over one partnered coil, 2 layers, each 65 turns -->  ~120 turns


I could also wind like this:


- 0.25 mm diameter enamelled wired (~ 30 AWG)

- each partnered coil has 3 layers, each 65 turns --> ~195 turns + ~195 turns

- the input coil is wound over one partnered coil, 1 layer,  65 turns -->  ~65 turns


The winding principle will be as indicated by EMJunkie (see e.g. the picture in this post
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg434472/#msg434472 )

The coupling can be modified by creating a gap between the core halves (e.g. by putting paper layers between them).
 

@EMJunkie: if you have time, please comment. Does this coil make sense?

Greetings, Conrad

 

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