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Red_Sunset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2385 on: May 06, 2015, 02:13:31 PM »
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1) There is no basis in theory, and 2) No experimental evidence supporting an extraordinary idea, then we are done.  There is no place left to dig.What debate?  Where is there any credible evidence in favor of the claim?

MarkE,

It appears that Tinman is building one of those toroid devices on a certain premise (See about 5 postings back). 
I wouldguess, an expanded view on that device could be welcome

Red

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2386 on: May 06, 2015, 02:24:00 PM »
one more quick one:

In a standard Conventional Transformer, the interactions between the coils do what?


Answer = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _?

In an Antenna, signals received do what:

Answer = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _? unless there is an _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ mismatch!

Why?

How can "Partnered Output Coils" Interact:

Answer = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _!

Back to work for me now - TTFN!

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2387 on: May 06, 2015, 03:28:27 PM »
Hahahaha - First, to see, one must have eyes....

Second, TK and Itsu (I respect Itsu) built a circuit, but did not succeed! It is as simple as that! They both built Circuits Expecting it to fail before starting. Both did not follow proper instructions, and circuit suggestions.

Third - Simple things must be understood before just going into a build - I have said this right from the start!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't understand the basics, then it cannot work! Period!

But hey, you blokes, Guru's, keep pounding the pavement for answers....

I have them, my Team of excellent people have them!

You could have them too, if you shut your yabbering and listened, stop thinking you know better... but you cant!
Both replications failed to support your claims and you have failed to demonstrate your claims as well.

MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2388 on: May 06, 2015, 03:28:38 PM »
I must correct myself - I have already given you the answers! You just have not put it together! When you do, that eureka moment will be the best feeling you've ever had!!!

Better than any drug you can buy!

It, the entire thing is up to you! Your choice! Your Decision!

I think a lot of us are just shaking our heads in disbelief at your manic-depressive dog and pony show.

Your over-the-top obstruction of discussing a simple electronic circuit was just crazy.  Instead of saying, "I don't know what will happen with the voltage and current waveforms but I will tell you what I think and I would like to learn and understand" you and Enjoykin simply made complete asses of yourselves.

Where does that leave you?  The answer is it leaves you just as clueless as when you first got here.

I find the whole thing sad and depressing.

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2389 on: May 06, 2015, 03:30:54 PM »
MarkE,

It appears that Tinman is building one of those toroid devices on a certain premise (See about 5 postings back). 
I wouldguess, an expanded view on that device could be welcome

Red
He is not making any claims for the device.  He is curious as to other people's claims for such a device.  If he wants advice on measurement procedures he can ask and I will be happy to provide some.

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2390 on: May 06, 2015, 03:34:59 PM »
one more quick one:

In a standard Conventional Transformer, the interactions between the coils do what?


Answer = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _?
Exhibit mutual inductance.
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In an Antenna, signals received do what:

Answer = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _? unless there is an _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ mismatch!
Couple incident energy even if there is an impedance mismatch.
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Why?
By reflecting incident energy.
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How can "Partnered Output Coils" Interact:

Answer = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _!
"Partnered output coils" are simply coils with mutual inductance wired such that they buck.
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Back to work for me now - TTFN!

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2391 on: May 07, 2015, 02:43:27 AM »
Exhibit mutual inductance.Couple incident energy even if there is an impedance mismatch.By reflecting incident energy."Partnered output coils" are simply coils with mutual inductance wired such that they buck.

MarkE - the most useful post you have ever posted!

Last one not quite right:


"Partnered output coils" are simply coils with mutual inductance wired such that they buck.


But I think 99% of the masses know what the answer is there!

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If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E/2 to E.


The BIGGEST Problem that you (People that don't yet get this) is that Conventionally, BUCKING means no Electric Field on the Output, which is the Conventional idea behind the term Bucking - That's why I don't use the Term!!!

This thinking (Bucking) is Wrong! Period! - Fields Oppose for a totally different reason! I have already explained why - Lenz's Law, Flow of Current. E.G: Magnetic Field.


You HAVE to stop thinking "Driving the Coils with Current" - Think Induction! An EMF is Induced.... Not Wired to "BUCK", the Coils oppose because of Lenz's Law... Wired to Add Electrically, but the Magnetic Fields Oppose...

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2392 on: May 07, 2015, 02:54:44 AM »
MarkE - the most useful post you have ever posted!

last one not quite right!

But I think 99% of the masses know what the answer is there!


The BIGGEST Problem that you (People that don't yet get this) is that Conventionally, BUCKING means no Electric Field on the Output, which is the Conventional idea behind the term Bucking - That's why I don't use the Term!!!

This thinking (Bucking) is Wrong! Period! - Fields Oppose for a totally different reason! I have already explained why - Lenz's Law, Flow of Current. E.G: Magnetic Field.
You are unable to demonstrate your claims.  Replications of your confiigurations confirm conventional theory and refute your claims.

Pirate88179

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2393 on: May 07, 2015, 02:57:40 AM »
Hahahaha - First, to see, one must have eyes....

Second, TK and Itsu (I respect Itsu) built a circuit, but did not succeed! It is as simple as that! They both built Circuits Expecting it to fail before starting. Both did not follow proper instructions, and circuit suggestions.

Third - Simple things must be understood before just going into a build - I have said this right from the start!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't understand the basics, then it cannot work! Period!

But hey, you blokes, Guru's, keep pounding the pavement for answers....

I have them, my Team of excellent people have them!

You could have them too, if you shut your yabbering and listened, stop thinking you know better... but you cant!

This response, in no way, even comes close to answering Chet's simple question.

Are you saying that the only thing wrong with TK's replication was that he did not believe in it when he built it?
So, TK had all of the electronics correct, and all of the coils, components, circuit and everything else was as it should be...but it did not work because he did not believe?

If this is not what you are saying, even though it really sounds like you are, then please answer Chet's question and tell all of us the mistakes that TK and Itsu made on their replications of your device.

I agree with Mark that both replications worked as well as yours...meaning they did not work.

Let's see if you can answer Chet's simple question.

Bill

PS  We are waiting...

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2394 on: May 07, 2015, 02:58:18 AM »
You are unable to demonstrate your claims.  Replications of your confiigurations confirm conventional theory and refute your claims.

No - Un-Willing, not Un-Able - Why: Trolls and Demo's don't mix!

My claims are - If you don't learn this very simple concept, then you're stuffed for eternity!

TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2395 on: May 07, 2015, 03:02:57 AM »


  Yes Junkie,
                all you have to do is show it working and you can laugh at everyone!!!!
  You keep saying how simple it is.......
           John.

He cannot! And everybody reading here knows this quite well.

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2396 on: May 07, 2015, 03:04:39 AM »
He cannot! And everybody reading here knows this quite well.

TK + Electricity = Losses

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2397 on: May 07, 2015, 03:11:45 AM »
No - Un-Willing, not Un-Able - Why: Trolls and Demo's don't mix!

My claims are - If you don't learn this very simple concept, then you're stuffed for eternity!
Had you ever successfully demonstrated your claims then we would not be having this conversation.  All you need to do to put any skeptic in their place is supply reliable data.  But you have not done so.  You simply keep repeating your false claims.

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2398 on: May 07, 2015, 03:11:47 AM »
I will cite another reference:

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PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION

Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns,  while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic field...


Again, I have said, study HOW ELECTRICAL ENERGY is "Generated"!!!

You have been told! Many times, by many different inventors!


One does not go to the Desert for a Cup of Water!


Pirate88179

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2399 on: May 07, 2015, 03:13:01 AM »
Junkie:

Are you saying that the only thing wrong with TK's replication was that he did not believe in it when he built it?
So, TK had all of the electronics correct, and all of the coils, components, circuit and everything else was as it should be...but it did not work because he did not believe?

If this is not what you are saying, even though it really sounds like you are, then please answer Chet's question and tell all of us the mistakes that TK and Itsu made on their replications of your device.

I agree with Mark that both replications worked as well as yours...meaning they did not work.

Let's see if you can answer Chet's simple question.

Bill

PS  We are still waiting...and waiting...