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Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2355 on: May 05, 2015, 04:13:33 AM »
Bump.


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« Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 07:02:43 AM by Pirate88179 »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2355 on: May 05, 2015, 04:13:33 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2356 on: May 05, 2015, 04:28:23 AM »

Ok, first of all - I wish to apologise to Stefan!!! We have chatted and now we are cool - I take back my comments about him!

Second, The Goon Squad was asked to leave in the early stages of this thread, and didn't!

Third, many want proof, many want all sorts of wonderful demonstrations - I say, I have given you all you need! 15 minutes and a hand full of wire and you're done! Remember Akula, Bill Alek, so many others I don't have time to compile the list!!! How well did a demonstration do for them?

Some of you will have all this stuff on hand! Follow the preferred circuit I already gave you.

You could have this done before you type your next post!

Cost: Nearly nothing!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2357 on: May 05, 2015, 04:38:35 AM »
Ok, first of all - I wish to apologise to Stefan!!! We have chatted and now we are cool - I take back my comments about him!

Second, The Goon Squad was asked to leave in the early stages of this thread, and didn't!

Third, many want proof, many want all sorts of wonderful demonstrations - I say, I have given you all you need! 15 minutes and a hand full of wire and you're done! Remember Akula, Bill Alek, so many others I don't have time to compile the list!!! How well did a demonstration do for them?

Some of you will have all this stuff on hand! Follow the preferred circuit I already gave you.

You could have this done before you type your next post!

Cost: Nearly nothing!
TK and ITSU both built reproductions faithful to your published information.  Their devices conformed to conventional theory and not to your claims.  Akula has a somewhat different problem:  Whereas you simply make unfounded claims, he demonstrates behaviors that people do not get when they reproduce what he publishes.  Bill Alek's problems are that like your measurements, his are deplorable.  Q1 2015 has come and gone like Q1 of 2014 and those self powered scooters are nowhere to be seen.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2357 on: May 05, 2015, 04:38:35 AM »
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2358 on: May 05, 2015, 04:39:29 AM »
P.S: A demonstration will not help you, only confuse you! How many demonstrations does one need before something becomes reachable?

You only need to know, if its energy you want, then Energy you must learn about, How, Where, Why....

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2359 on: May 05, 2015, 04:44:18 AM »
It all started when I discussed your stuff with you on your YouTube channel and then you offered to come here and continue the conversation.  You are certainly not on any moral high ground with your statement about asking people to leave.  We examined your circuit and found out that you were not making correct measurements.  It was excruciating to get you to provide your data.  Not surprisingly, but still a disappointment, we find out that your electronics knowledge and bench skills are very low.  That means your understanding of the energy dynamics of an electronic circuit is very low.

So I thought it would be fun to discuss a simple circuit as a learning exercise for everyone, clearly including you.  But like some comedian you cannot "break character."  Then a loony bin ensued.  Another wasted opportunity, and like I said, you can look everywhere and you find people pulsing coils with a MOSFET.  Wouldn't it be wonderful to discuss the operation of the circuit and the energy audit trail for it?  But no, it just becomes a stupid fiasco.  And behind the stupid fiasco is some kind of crazy guy that actively wants to shut something positive down.  He wants to stomp it out.  What the hell is that?  It's like being in a freaking surrealist movie.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2359 on: May 05, 2015, 04:44:18 AM »
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Offline a.king21

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2360 on: May 05, 2015, 06:53:31 AM »
Yes,read the PDF.

Lets make this really simple EMJ. You show me the best version of your OU transformer,and i will build it to your specifications to the letter. Then i will test it,and see how we go.
Dose that sound like a plan?.


Well, not strictly partnered output but close:


You can build one of these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2H5BerC9Go




And open the gates of Hell.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2361 on: May 05, 2015, 08:31:17 AM »
P.S: A demonstration will not help you, only confuse you! How many demonstrations does one need before something becomes reachable?

You only need to know, if its energy you want, then Energy you must learn about, How, Where, Why....
At least one demonstration of the extraordinary claim is required.  You have failed to demonstrate your claims using any kind of proper measurement even once.  You have offered a series of improper power measurements where you did not measure current through the same circuit branch that you measured your voltage across.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2361 on: May 05, 2015, 08:31:17 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2362 on: May 05, 2015, 08:38:19 AM »

Well, not strictly partnered output but close:


You can build one of these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2H5BerC9Go




And open the gates of Hell.
That demonstration is an example of measurement truncation errors.  It takes a wide dynamic range in instruments in order to accurately see small values in the presence of much larger values.  If you look closely at the oscilloscope shots his power source is not a very pure sine wave.  You can also see that the math calculates a V*I product but does not display the integral or average to determine net energy / average to or from the power source.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2363 on: May 05, 2015, 09:20:07 AM »
That what I said a.king21  ::)  yet there is more about it

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2363 on: May 05, 2015, 09:20:07 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2364 on: May 05, 2015, 11:24:14 AM »

Well, not strictly partnered output but close:


You can build one of these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2H5BerC9Go




And open the gates of Hell.
Old TH has been throwing that one around for some time now.
If he really had something,one would think he'd own half of the bahama's by now-->but alas,he is still shooting video's in his hunting gear :D

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2365 on: May 05, 2015, 11:53:05 AM »
A.King21, Forest, Tinman, I don't know about Thane Heins, I never built his device. I can say, its a similar concept and if Thane had said a few things about the operation that resonated with me, then I would agree its in the same field, but I just cant say for sure.

Clemente Figuera - His device was the same. Worked on the same principals!

Many hundreds more also.

A hint here (Read between the lines here, the meaning not the words): "a "conditionned" RLoad (100 Kohms, non inductive carbon, 5Watts) or a MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) is REQUIRED for getting the output datas measured above"

JLN Said this in the work on the MEG, yes, 2 output coils, one, the primary load was connected with a "the output is loaded with the 9 W lamp" so in the above quote, JLN was talking specifically about Loading the secondary Output Coil!!!

WHY??? Why use the term: "REQUIRED"

I have already told everyone why!

Partnered Output Coils: Each Magnetic Field from Each Partnered Output Coil, interacts the other. From one secondary Output Coil to the other! In the MEG the operation is slightly different but the end result is the same. Its been shown very clearly many times through out history.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2365 on: May 05, 2015, 11:53:05 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2366 on: May 05, 2015, 12:50:30 PM »
STEFAN - TK was asked to leave the thread back in the early stages on this thread - If you're not doing anything to stop them, you're with them!!!
You wanna save your forum/site, do something about them. Just look at the poll!!!
Could you please change the questions in the poll so people can vote for TK and MarkE separately?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2367 on: May 05, 2015, 04:01:19 PM »
A.King21, Forest, Tinman, I don't know about Thane Heins, I never built his device. I can say, its a similar concept and if Thane had said a few things about the operation that resonated with me, then I would agree its in the same field, but I just cant say for sure.

Clemente Figuera - His device was the same. Worked on the same principals!

Many hundreds more also.

A hint here (Read between the lines here, the meaning not the words): "a "conditionned" RLoad (100 Kohms, non inductive carbon, 5Watts) or a MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) is REQUIRED for getting the output datas measured above"

JLN Said this in the work on the MEG, yes, 2 output coils, one, the primary load was connected with a "the output is loaded with the 9 W lamp" so in the above quote, JLN was talking specifically about Loading the secondary Output Coil!!!

WHY??? Why use the term: "REQUIRED"

I have already told everyone why!

Partnered Output Coils: Each Magnetic Field from Each Partnered Output Coil, interacts the other. From one secondary Output Coil to the other! In the MEG the operation is slightly different but the end result is the same. Its been shown very clearly many times through out history.
So is the toroid core steel or ferrite?
And what dose F-Motor on the drawing mean?.

Offline ramset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2368 on: May 05, 2015, 04:48:02 PM »
IMO
Tinsel Koala is an active replicator here and should NEVER be looked at in the same light as none
replicators, when he asks questions its because he is digging into HIS personal time and money to
replicate ,same thing with TinMan and a "few" others here.
If you have a true anomaly happening it would be hard to find a better man than Tinsel
to help sort it out on the bench..

talk about kicking yourself in the teeth...???

Truth is,   the Membership here feels quite strongly that Tinsel should be a part of these investigations ..so much so that "they" bought him a scope to assist him here .
funds for that purchase were raised in minutes...

You have to recognize your assets.
respectfully
Chet K


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2369 on: May 05, 2015, 04:49:32 PM »
Poor Thane Heins is still trying to pitch his gross mismeasurement deeds as over unity.  Remember a few years back he finally found the perfect customer?  His alleged system was going to get designed in to an electric scooter.  He was going to travel to the States to do a proof of concept and road testing with the guy building the scooters.  It never happened.  If he actually went it must have been an awful fiasco with an embarrassed company president dealing with his engineering team.  I don't think we ever heard any follow-up about it from Thane, and that says mountains.  It's a variation on Bill Alek.

Forget about the supposed secret sauce for a "conditioned" resistor.  That's just more electronics quackery.

There is nothing special about that toroidal transformer configuration.  That's just more alleged secret sauce and it's quackery.  You just have to look at the transformer to pronounce it "normal."

 

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