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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 3006558 times)

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2175 on: May 03, 2015, 07:39:40 AM »
Ref: http://www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/Kron_Dat/KronGabriel1.htm

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In 1942 Kron transferred to the Large Steam Turbine Engineering Department, to work on problems of stress analysis in complex steel structures. Then he moved again, to work on electronics with Simon Ramo. And, in 1945, he moved to the Research Laboratory, where he worked on the temperature distribution and control of piles for atomic reactors, and other abstruse problems. In 1950, he returned to work for Selden Crary on power systems, where his ideas proved to be most useful, employing the large computers then becoming available. One of his associates wrote two books solidly based on Kron's work that tell how to use computers to control the distribution of electric power in large systems. (8)



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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2176 on: May 03, 2015, 07:52:33 AM »
Enough, thanks.  Please deal with this:

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2177 on: May 03, 2015, 09:27:20 AM »
MH, Let me try.

Voltage at TP2 jumps from 1 up because the EMF from the bypassing coil2?  Collapsing magnetic field in L2 revers current flow. Sum of the currents in the central tap has to be 0 ,so I guess current draw goes down when signal on the Gate?   Something like that? ;)   Of course some voltage losses because the resistance in the coil and I suppose the resistance of the FAT smaller than through the coil L2.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2178 on: May 03, 2015, 10:16:28 AM »
John.K1:

It looks like Chris and Enjoykin have nothing to say.  So I suppose that the discussion can be opened up.

You need to mark up the drawing to make your point properly.  I will refrain commenting because perhaps people like Farmhand and others will join in for a lively debate.  You can debate your points with your peers.  The challenge is for those interested to figure the circuit out.  If you figure most or all of it out, congratulations.

Same message about asking those that know the solution to refrain from responding and let people work it out.

MileHigh

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2179 on: May 03, 2015, 10:17:04 AM »
MH, Let me try.

Voltage at TP2 jumps from 1 up because the EMF from the bypassing coil2?  Collapsing magnetic field in L2 revers current flow. Sum of the currents in the central tap has to be 0 ,so I guess current draw goes down when signal on the Gate?   Something like that? ;)   Of course some voltage losses because the resistance in the coil and I suppose the resistance of the FAT smaller than through the coil L2.
The voltage at TP2 does go up.  How much? 

I1 does not go negative either when TP1 goes low or following TP1 going low.

The stipulations are that there is no resistance anywhere in the circuit other than the STB60N55 MOSFET.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2180 on: May 03, 2015, 10:49:55 AM »
Don't be afraid to mark up the timing diagram.  Sometimes it's very difficult to discuss electronics in text.

I am posting a "shred" version of a diagram as a specimen for you to examine.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2181 on: May 03, 2015, 11:10:27 AM »
Mark
I guess the increment of the voltage will be  L2*(ΔI / Δt).

Somebody calculate it. I am busy now. Making the Magnetite core :)   )

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2182 on: May 03, 2015, 11:23:17 AM »
Note, some of this has already happened:


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THE VISION

Trapped By the Beast
Belinda Anderson - 3/14/12


I dreamed I was walking on my lane, just as it was dawning, to go up to the main road to the mailbox and get the newspaper. Just as I got to the road, I saw one of my neighbors getting into his truck. He drove up to me and said, "You'd better get to Walmart quickly; they are giving away free food, water, medicine and gas." (Trusting in the arm of the flesh. {Psa.146:3} Put not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. {Pro.3:5} Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding. {Heb.12:16} lest there be any fornication, or profane person, as Esau, who for one mess of meat sold his own birthright. I said, "My husband is asleep, so I will have to wait until he wakes up." My neighbor said, "Well, I wouldn't wait too long or you might miss out." Then he left. I went on over to the mailbox and got the newspaper. I got halfway back down the lane, when I heard a voice say to me, "It's a trap; it's a trap. Don't go."



I asked, "What's a trap?" The next thing I knew, I was standing in a Walmart parking lot. The lot was packed like it always is, so I asked what was wrong. I heard that same voice say, "Look at the people." So I looked at the people. They were coming out of the store with grocery carts full of items and getting into their cars and leaving. I asked again, "What's wrong?" The voice said, "Look closer at the people." So I zeroed in on the people and all of a sudden I noticed they were all wearing dog tags.



Then I found myself inside the store. There was a long line at the left of the store against the wall. They had it set up like at the airport with the roped lines, so the flow of people would be orderly. The store was full of products and people were shopping, so everything looked normal to these people in line. However, I noticed that the people shopping had on dog tags like the people in the parking lot. My oldest brother had been in the military years ago, so I knew what these dog tags were. I said to myself, "These are soldiers dressed up as civilians."


All of a sudden, I was standing at the back of the store. The store manager was standing in front of a set of doors marked Personnel Only. I noticed he had on dog tags as well. He was telling the people that only four people could go with him at a time to be processed in to get their vouchers for the free stuff. He had them line up two on the left and two on the right behind him. As they went through the first set of doors, there was a breezeway area, then another set of metal doors. He was telling these people that when they went through the next set of doors, there would be two women sitting at a desk and to go up to the desk and wait. As soon as these people got up to the desk and the second set of doors closed, four very large men (they looked like sumo wrestlers) came up behind these people, put their hands over their mouths and gave them some kind of a shot.  Then these soldiers took their drivers license and car keys from them. (I believe the drivers license represents taking away their identity or place in Christ and the car keys represent taking away their freedom; they NOW belong to the beast -- lock, stock and barrel!)



The two women sitting at the desk stamped these people on their right hands.  (Rev.13:16) And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead. I got closer so I could see what the stamp read; it read, Bus #1, Section A. Then these people were led out the back door on to a waiting bus. These people couldn't put up a fight, as the shot they were given made them like zombies and they could barely walk. These people or victim's drivers license were placed in a box that read, Bus #1, Section A, as well. I'm sure this was so they could keep track of just exactly where they were taking them. Their car keys were given to some soldiers standing close by.



I decided to follow these soldiers with the keys to see what they were going to do. They found these people's cars and drove them off the parking lot. I decided to go back to the bus to see what was happening there. I noticed they were taking people to the back of the bus and working their way forward. When they would get two people in a seat, there was a large harness that came over these people's shoulders. Then the soldiers reached down and grabbed another harness that went through their legs and it all joined together at their waist and locked. There was no way these people could get up.


Then, again, the next thing I knew, I was standing in a large field off of a dirt road. This field was full of empty car carriers. I watched as the soldiers drove onto the field and up onto the car carriers. When the car carriers were full, they drove away. I lost count of how many there were, as there were so many. I just stood there trying to digest everything I had just witnessed. I closed my eyes and when I opened them again, I was back home on my lane.


I stood there thinking how clever that whole process was; they didn't have to go to the people. They devised such a clever way to have the people come to them without putting up a fight, like lambs to the slaughter.


Also, I thought to myself, they have been planning this for a long time. Walmart would be a very logical staging area, as they provide, food, clothing, supplies, water, medicine and gas. They are always advertising it as a one-stop shop; now we know why! I took another look at Walmart. For some reason, I looked at it in reverse from the dash out, and it reads "Mart law," or could it be martial law! Then I woke up.



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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2183 on: May 03, 2015, 11:35:08 AM »
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It looks like Chris and Enjoykin have nothing to say.  So I suppose that the discussion can be opened up.
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MH & Mark,

Chris and Enjoykin have plenty to say, it is just a different kind of say.
As I alluded to in my previous mail (current limit required, you have a bug in your timing diagram.
I am sure this is not what you intended.  Your starting condition would be a current limited short circuit current though the 2 coils (resistance=0).  Applying power and applying signal are 2 separate actions

A short summary without calculations,
1..  At power-up, the current and mag field in both coils would be max.(TP1=0v)
2..  You fire the Mosfet, this shorts the H1 coil (coils are not coupled, so there is no feedback to 2H)
3..  1H will produce a EMF that will be dissipated through the mosfet protection diode (TP1=diode junction voltage)
4..   At this point, the current limit of the power supply set to 1A will save the mosfet.(TP1=~0v, mosfet conduct voltage)
5..   Mosfet opens and current flow starts in 1H, presenting itself as a high impedance
6..   This initial hi impedance is noted also by 2H due to reduced current flow
7..   2H will up the voltage with an induced emf spike at TP2

I leave the value calculations to you
Red_Sunset

 

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2184 on: May 03, 2015, 11:44:23 AM »
MH & Mark,

As I eluded to in my previous mail (current limit required, you have a bug in your timing diagram.
I am sure this is not what you intended.  Your starting condition would be a current limited short circuit current though the 2 coils (resistance=0).  Applying power and applying signal are 2 separate actions

A short summary without calculations,
1..  At power-up, the current and mag field in both coils would be max.
2..  You fire the Mosfet, this shorts the H1 coil (coils are not coupled, so there is no feedback to 2H)
3..  1H will produce a EMF that will be dissipated through the mosfet protection diode
4..   At this point, the current limit of the power supply set to 1A will save the mosfet.
5..   Mosfet opens and current flow starts in 1H, presenting itself as a high impedance
6..   This initial hi impedance is noted also by 2H due to reduced current flow
7..   2H will up the voltage with induced emf spike at TP2

I leave the value calculations to you
Red_Sunset

@All - Red_Sunset points out with clinical precision that the GOON Squad again don't know what they are doing. We have seen this many times before, trying to make others here look like buffoons while they themselves are asking questions that they themselves do not really know what is going on!!!

Pros like the GOON SQUAD Baffled by their own Buffoonian Behaviour!!! - Yes Sir, no wonder no-one bytes at their stupidity!!!

And we now, again, can sit back and laugh at the ridiculousness of their behaviour!


Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2185 on: May 03, 2015, 11:45:18 AM »
Mark
I guess the increment of the voltage will be  L2*(ΔI / Δt).

Somebody calculate it. I am busy now. Making the Magnetite core :)   )
While EMJ is busy looking for specials on at WalMart ( Or is it the elevator regulator agency traM laW? ), we can note that the pulse generator Tr and Tf are stipulated to be 100ns, and that the MOSFET tr specification  is 50ns maximum.

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2186 on: May 03, 2015, 11:51:12 AM »

WOW Grand Canyon 2?

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/08/21/Giant_Crack_Appears_In_Earth_In_Mexico/

Underground Stream that caused this!!! hahahaha yeah right... Keep it up, try Tectonic Plate Movement!

The gullible will believe, it opened up in a few days, and a Stream caused it... Just look at all the water out there!!!

Sounds like classic MarkE Story!!!

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« Reply #2187 on: May 03, 2015, 11:56:38 AM »
@All - Red_Sunset points out with clinical precision that the GOON Squad again don't know what they are doing. We have seen this many times before, trying to make others here look like buffoons while they themselves are asking questions that they themselves do not really know what is going on!!!

Pros like the GOON SQUAD Baffled by their own Buffoonian Behaviour!!! - Yes Sir, no wonder no-one bytes at their stupidity!!!

And we now, again, can sit back and laugh at the ridiculousness of their behaviour!

EMJUNKIE,

You can not be serious ?,   you behave just like the descriptions you made and that picture posted
A little bit of mature behaviour would be in order

Red_Sunset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2188 on: May 03, 2015, 11:58:57 AM »
MH & Mark,

As I alluded to in my previous mail (current limit required, you have a bug in your timing diagram.
I am sure this is not what you intended.  Your starting condition would be a current limited short circuit current though the 2 coils (resistance=0).  Applying power and applying signal are 2 separate actions
If you believe that the current is unlimited at T0 then you are mistaken.  The initial current is zero and does ramp to 1A as shown.
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A short summary without calculations,
1..  At power-up, the current and mag field in both coils would be max.(TP1=0v)
No they will both be zero at T0.  The current increases at 1V/3H or 0.33A/s.
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2..  You fire the Mosfet, this shorts the H1 coil (coils are not coupled, so there is no feedback to 2H)
That is correct.  The MOSFET is fully on by T0 + 90ns.  Coil current is less than 30nA at that time.
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3..  1H will produce a EMF that will be dissipated through the mosfet protection diode (TP1=diode junction voltage)
When the MOSFET first turns on there is zero net flow through the MOSFET.  Whatever current is flowing clockwise through both coils, at the instant that the MOSFET begins conducting; now flows clockwise through the left hand coil and the MOSFET, and anti-clockwise through the MOSFET and the 1H coil.  IOW, the initial voltage change from 0.33V at the MOSFET drain to 0V does not instantaneously change the current flow through either coil.  It establishes a new rate of current change in each coil.  The rate of current rise through the 2H coil increases from 0.33A/s to 0.5A/s.  The current through the 1H coil decreases slowly because there is almost no voltage across it.  The MOSFET is biased fully on.  The body diode is slightly reverse biased.  For practice and purpose it does not carry current.
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4..   At this point, the current limit of the power supply set to 1A will save the mosfet.(TP1=~0v, mosfet conduct voltage)
The voltage source was specified as ideal.  It can supply any current the circuit will draw from 1V.
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5..   Mosfet opens and current flow starts in 1H, presenting itself as a high impedance
We are in the time domain so impedance really isn't an appropriate term in this context.  The 1H coil does exhibit high impedance to high frequencies.  BEMF from the 1H coil does resist fast current changes.
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6..   This initial hi impedance is noted also by 2H due to reduced current flow
The 2H coil resists fast current changes even more than the 1H coil, yes.
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7..   2H will up the voltage with an induced emf spike at TP2
Yes the voltage climbs.
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I leave the value calculations to you
Red_Sunset
An estimate of the voltage rise is important.  I'm not looking for three or more digits of precision.  Just a qualitative evaluation will do.

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« Reply #2189 on: May 03, 2015, 11:58:57 AM »


A lot of this sounds like the GOON SUQAD's antics but this is real: