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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 3008311 times)

Offline Red_Sunset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2130 on: May 02, 2015, 03:14:47 PM »
Next, let's make things a bit more interesting.  Let's couple the two coils in a bucking configuration:
Let's see what our resident free energy claimants can tell us about what happens in this circuit.

Mark,
You made it very attractive and simple, but this-far it doesn't look like a good fishing day.
I wonder why?
Q: Misc curiosity, what is the current limiter on your power supply set to ?
Red_Sunset

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2131 on: May 02, 2015, 03:19:32 PM »
Mark,
You made it very attractive and simple, but this-far it doesn't look like a good fishing day.
I wonder why?
Q: Misc curiosity, what is the current limiter on your power supply set to ?
Red_Sunset
As stipulated:  The power supply is an ideal 1V source.  The wires have no resistance.  The coils have no resistance.  In the first case the coils are completely isolated from each other and have no mutual coupling.  In the second bucking coil case, the coupling factor is 1.0.  There is no parasitic capacitance in the coils or the wiring.  These unreal conditions are set only to simplify the analysis.

Offline Red_Sunset

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2132 on: May 02, 2015, 03:31:09 PM »
As stipulated:  The power supply is an ideal 1V source.  The wires have no resistance.  The coils have no resistance.  In the first case the coils are completely isolated from each other and have no mutual coupling.  In the second bucking coil case, the coupling factor is 1.0.  There is no parasitic capacitance in the coils or the wiring.  These unreal conditions are set only to simplify the analysis.

Marc,
I do understand the circuit and its conditions clearly. 
I do not want to spoil your intentions. therefore my reference to "currently limiting" was to a perhaps unintended circuit complication if seen as a regular circuit.  If you want me expand for you I will do so,  but in the interim, I will refrain, to support your intentions
Red_Sunset

Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2133 on: May 02, 2015, 03:44:26 PM »
Oscillation: Of course.

Ofcourse. Brovin, Colpitt, Bediny  - all oscillators works same or similar. I was just wondering why did they used shorted opposite coils.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2134 on: May 02, 2015, 03:57:12 PM »
Marc,
I do understand the circuit and its conditions clearly. 
I do not want to spoil your intentions. therefore my reference to "currently limiting" was to a perhaps unintended circuit complication if seen as a regular circuit.  If you want me expand for you I will do so,  but in the interim, I will refrain, to support your intentions
Red_Sunset
Please give our resident "partnered coils yield free energy" claimants as much time as they need to evaluate the operation of these relatively simple hypothetical circuit.  I tried to make sure that all the information needed to evaluate the circuit is presented.  I did not do anything sneaky like introduce a current limit.  The only non-linear element is the STB60N55.

California's farmers remind us:  "Flux grows where current flows."

Offline MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2135 on: May 02, 2015, 03:58:02 PM »
Ofcourse. Brovin, Colpitt, Bediny  - all oscillators works same or similar. I was just wondering why did they used shorted opposite coils.
It is not clear to me that they know.  I think they are tinkering.

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2136 on: May 02, 2015, 07:18:43 PM »
BruceTPU is in the same league as Chris and Enjoykin.

Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2137 on: May 02, 2015, 08:40:56 PM »
MileHigh

Do not say that. I am in Bruce's league and I have whiteness many interesting things on his private site I can't speak about ;) Bruce is hard working to get SM TPU running. The other man talking in the movie it is Michael. Expert over the electronics (and owner of some electronic company) - I just want to say- No AMATEURS ;)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2138 on: May 02, 2015, 08:59:25 PM »
I beg to differ.  I know of Bruce and I watched the clip.  The clip is below rank amateur and a classic rat's nest of wires.

Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2139 on: May 02, 2015, 09:30:31 PM »
... and a classic rat's nest of wires.

I can say just a smart man can orient themselves in disarray ;)   That's why I have a big mess around me too :D

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2140 on: May 02, 2015, 09:52:59 PM »
After you have your proof of concept going with your rat's nest of wires you are supposed to relay it out cleanly.  Especially for anything running at higher frequencies.  Take your time, do it right.

Like the S.O.S. Band!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqXaJqqp2SI

Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2141 on: May 03, 2015, 12:10:35 AM »
Some question for you experts ;)

Tomorrow I am gonna mold the core for BI-Toroid Transformer.  I am gonna use the soft wax in which I will make a chanels by using a lot of small ferite cores. I have made a shape on the table to get idea how it will looks like. Than I realized what if I will leave those small ferite cores and bonde it with the mixture of epoxy and the magnetite or black sand?  Would that be good or bad Idea?  Also the question is What is beter to use- the black sand from the beach or Magnetie I bought on e-Bay?
 I have made the core before from the toroid, but I got some issue to properly attach the center. he new core will have large size and will be splited for better winding:)

Thanks for advice.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2142 on: May 03, 2015, 12:23:11 AM »
I beg to differ.  I know of Bruce and I watched the clip.  The clip is below rank amateur and a classic rat's nest of wires.

That's right. Scope abuse, a maze of clipleads all over the place, a circuit diagram that isn't even correct, and "Michael" evidently doesn't even grasp how it works to produce continuous oscillations... if it even does. The scope shows a lot of noise, that's all.

It's a "facepalm" of a video, that's for sure. Actually, the miracle would be if it _didn't_ "self-oscillate".


Offline John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2143 on: May 03, 2015, 12:29:22 AM »
TK, When we will be on pension and have nothink else to do , I (we) will play with the design too ;)    BTW, good job ;)

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #2144 on: May 03, 2015, 01:04:20 AM »
In 1951, perhaps one of the greatest Electrical Engineers or all time, of course after Nikola Tesla, published a book. In this book, a strange configuration is shown, with some text: