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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #210 on: January 23, 2015, 09:56:15 PM »
I had it ready from other project and I intent to change it with E and I laminations connected the way Jensen describes. Also Jensen uses a feedback coil connected as Meyer's one, but with no diode.

Jeg,

This may work, but check the turn direction on one of the coils! Best to have one reversed to the other! From what I can see, both coils are wound in the same direction!

Take the Blue input Coil off and wind a 40 turn 32 or similar awg coil as shown:

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #210 on: January 23, 2015, 09:56:15 PM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #211 on: January 23, 2015, 10:05:06 PM »
Hi folks, Hi jeg, my primary inducer is on the right, it is two 24awg. magnet wires, wired in parallel (aka bifilar), there is at least 100 turns per wire.
Each partnered secondary coil has around 200 turns of 24awg. magnet wire.
Thanks for your continued help chris/emjunkie, i think i am starting to comprehend this more.
One of the partnered coils is like sticking two permanent magnets in attraction mode, reinforcing primary, due to what's induced in the other partnered coil.

My flip flop circuit, ac type input, is only drawing no load, 50 milliamps with this 24awg. input coil setup at 3.7 volt input and with double that voltage 7.4 volts, the no load input only climbs to 60 milliamps.
So i think the duty cycle isn't high enough, it may be being choked off as you are saying.
I'll have to think about what to change to get more through put and still maintain good frequency, maybe a flip flop with capacitors as you've shown.
peace love light

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Youre on your way SkyWatcher123! Nice Work!

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My flip flop circuit, ac type input, is only drawing no load, 50 milliamps with this 24awg. input coil setup at 3.7 volt input and with double that voltage 7.4 volts, the no load input only climbs to 60 milliamps.

This may be enough, I would however try to get the V up to say 10 or 12 - Exciting Magnetic Field must be sufficient to get all moving.

If you don't mind me saying, maybe move to a small Power Amp, just for a little while. I have found its really easy to get stuck on things and it can stall the progress.

With a small Amp, you can adjust a lot with the twist of screwdriver, Amplitude and so on! Just drive with small Function Gen.

Just a suggestion.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #212 on: January 23, 2015, 10:11:19 PM »
This is the first testing video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNQT63CiPgI&feature=youtu.be

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Good Work Jeg, comment posted on your video!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #212 on: January 23, 2015, 10:11:19 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #213 on: January 23, 2015, 10:34:03 PM »
Hi Guys, I just want to ask you.  The primary should be above one half of the partner coil ,right? The question is - does it makes any difference which way is the primary wound (same or opposite to the coil below)??  In mine setup I have  the primary in the same direction. 

Not important on the exact position of the input Coil. What is important is that is couples to one coil more than the other!

One more question- is it transformer ratio sensitive?  I mean for example if you go over some ratio like 1:10 will it kill the effect?

Not really, it will change the operational Characteristics of the device but will still be there. This area I am still learning! I don't have all the answers yet.

In my setup I have small bulb on my partnered coil to establish current flow. I have no light on it. I have measured more than 0.5A in that loop and from the battery it takes around 0.4A.  On the central tap I have high voltage and if I connect there a bulb 220V 25W with right  length of the wire on the other side of the bulb (to match impedance)  I have a light. But that small bulb (12V) on the partnered loop shows absolutely nothing. Why?


Check the Voltage Polarity's on each coil, make sure each one is not Voltage Cancelling! Run through the list of checks I have provided:


Some basic Rules:
1: Check Turns Direction's, Phase on each Coil, making sure the phase's add to each other not cancel.
2: Try gapping the Core slightly after trying with no Gap first.
3: Check for any Coil Insulation issues where a short may occur.
4: Try rebuilding again with a fresh mind.
5: Check Frequency, try starting at about 400Hz and slowly move up or down!
6: Check One of the Partnered Output Coils for an Output
7: Ask for help! 

Remember there are 3 Configurations that work that I have found, but I have only covered two of them! I will cover the other configuration at a later stage.




I have it as a air core and feed is from SG + mosfet IRFP460 and battery 24V.


Please Note: I have not had any luck with Air Cores! I don't believe Air Cores Work but please, I may be wrong, keep trying!

Any excitation to get the charges flowing is enough, some are better than others. I prefer Sine Wave but all works. Toa point!


Jeg:  Have you tried also to make a gap between the yoke's halfs (with some paper)? ;)

Nice Suggestion John!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #214 on: January 23, 2015, 10:38:13 PM »
Keep rereading the pdf, it will increase your understanding, at least for me.

@Alan,

Thank You! Yes Sir this is exactly why I spent weeks getting it together!

I have also done a Video for those time depleted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSadMqEnO7I

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #214 on: January 23, 2015, 10:38:13 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #215 on: January 23, 2015, 10:51:28 PM »



 So did my post get any response? EMJunkie? Or did all the flim flam from these "Police" get you so sidetracked that you missed the very source to the technology you are describing?


 It is very important that you understand that this has been replicated successfully by Tariel Kapanadze. At least he admitted who it came from and LEARNED how to use it for real power applications. You are trying to reinvent the wheel when the wheel is taking you down the road. Tesla is the teacher and we should all listen and replicate the technology that was suppressed from the beginning. Find my posts and read everything I linked to. Yes Tesla was just delving into this new phenomena but I suggest he knew more than we could ever imagine.


 Don't let the measurement police get to you. In all budding technologies there is an exploration period. In that period there is little by way of power statements because as you have eluded we need to understand the event before we try to explain the output vs the input. In fact if we look we are converting one form of energy into another by our "Transformation" as you have noted. The first form of energy is rarely noted to be useful but without it no energy could exist. Let me explain:


 Potentials and a gradient of potential is what we are looking at. If there is no potential difference there is nothing. But creating a difference like a slope will enable that potential difference to act. That act is called Energy or the flow of energy. Magnetics is a result of the potential difference in motion. Magnetics also is very wasteful. So in order to get this to work properly you need to contain the magnetic to purify the electric field and free it. The electric field is the sole entity responsible for generation from a moving rotor and not the magnetic. The magnetic field is the reason for Lenz's Law. The MF is also the sole reason there is no perfect generator yet. Tesla liked to call his special generators Revolving Transformers. Now why is that?


 You ever wondered why Tesla won over DC? Because he could raise the potential so high that literally no current could be lost in the transmission over 1000's of miles. Even if the system radiated a high electric field the amount of current lost in that transmission over those 1000's of miles would be moot. It works, plain and simple. <-Hint


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #216 on: January 23, 2015, 11:05:16 PM »
@ALL,

This is a little off topic, but relates. I will try to be brief!

About three years ago I got the Vacuum Cleaner out to do some Vacuuming around the house. (Yes I do it regularly  ;))

I plugged it in, went to turn it on, and POP! I thought this was very strange!

Pulled the Cleaner down and tried to find what was going on. I found that one of the Field Coils had blown itself to bits, approximately 1 cm of wire gone. Minimal Burn Marks!

The Rotor was stuck in one position, it could move but not freely like normal!

With my work I was doing (Related topic) I could only come to one conclusion why this happened.

I believe that the same situation as we are looking at right now had presented itself in the Motor! Magnetic Field's Build, some in opposition, and because the Rotor was stuck, we got Max Fields!

On collapsing with the sine of the mains I believe this Magnetic field went to Max Current and as a result the wire could not handle this huge current and it blew to bits.

I have of course assumed that this was the situation! I have no proof that this is what happened.

So, the point of me posting this, is that we need to Maximise the Magnetic Field Interactions! Get the highest Magnetic Fields in the device that are possible.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #217 on: January 23, 2015, 11:16:35 PM »
Hi JBigness5

Missed Sorry!  :)

Again this is nothing new.

Yes, I know, I have stated this in my pdf document - The big difference is I am trying to make people publicly aware! No-one else has done this before.


 http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1891-05-20.htm


 Figure 113 is the method you are talking about.


 The text I believe has been altered to deter the meaning of this setup.


This would not surprise me at all!



 "The above described arrangements refer only to the use of commercial coils as ordinarily constructed.  If it is desired to construct a coil for the express purpose of performing with it such experiments as I have described, or, generally, rendering it capable of withstanding the greatest possible difference of potential, then a construction as indicated in Fig. 17 / 113 will be found of advantage.  The coil in this case is formed of two independent parts which are wound oppositely, the connection between both being made near the primary.  The potential in the middle being zero, there is not much tendency to jump to the primary and not much insulation is required.  In some cases the middle point may, however, be connected to the primary or to the ground.  In such a coil the places of greatest difference of potential are far apart and the coil is capable of withstanding an enormous strain.  The two parts may be movable so as to allow a slight adjustment of the capacity effect."

 Another reference to this design is also a Tesla creation:

 http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm

 Figure 3 is also this design slightly changed for very high voltage use.


I can only say here that others should not limit them selves. My devices work at lower Frequencies and lower voltages - We don't want to over do it and do any damage!


 If you read the whole document you will see it is mostly about very high frequencies and very high voltages. Their separation and use after the separation. Figure 17 shows a one terminal Motor and how to use it with this type of system of very high frequency oscillations which was proven by Kapanadze in his video's as well.  Shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ


 JBignes5

Yes, Kapanadze could be considered to also use this technology!

I suggest to people, start small, don't get tied up with huge expectations! Light a Light first! then move on from there!

JBigness5, youre right, Tesla had and knew about this Tech! Many hundreds of others have also known!

It takes some understanding and some experimentation to move forward, like I said, don't expect the first device to work. It could one of ten that may work! If all follow my guidelines then it will make the whole thing SO much easier however!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #218 on: January 23, 2015, 11:26:54 PM »
@JBignes5,



 So did my post get any response? EMJunkie? Or did all the flim flam from these "Police" get you so sidetracked that you missed the very source to the technology you are describing?

Yes, I am sorry!  :)

It is very important that you understand that this has been replicated successfully by Tariel Kapanadze. At least he admitted who it came from and LEARNED how to use it for real power applications. You are trying to reinvent the wheel when the wheel is taking you down the road. Tesla is the teacher and we should all listen and replicate the technology that was suppressed from the beginning. Find my posts and read everything I linked to. Yes Tesla was just delving into this new phenomena but I suggest he knew more than we could ever imagine.


Kapanadze is just one implementation of this tech, there are many! See my pdf for a small list, by no means complete! 


 Don't let the measurement police get to you. In all budding technologies there is an exploration period. In that period there is little by way of power statements because as you have eluded we need to understand the event before we try to explain the output vs the input. In fact if we look we are converting one form of energy into another by our "Transformation" as you have noted. The first form of energy is rarely noted to be useful but without it no energy could exist.


I have tried to stay away from this area, to try not to confuse people. Energy is still Energy, weather it is Tom Beardenized or not, if you don't mind my terminology. It come slightly different because of the conditions, I cover this in my pdf also.


Let me explain:
 Potentials and a gradient of potential is what we are looking at. If there is no potential difference there is nothing. But creating a difference like a slope will enable that potential difference to act. That act is called Energy or the flow of energy. Magnetics is a result of the potential difference in motion. Magnetics also is very wasteful. So in order to get this to work properly you need to contain the magnetic to purify the electric field and free it. The electric field is the sole entity responsible for generation from a moving rotor and not the magnetic. The magnetic field is the reason for Lenz's Law. The MF is also the sole reason there is no perfect generator yet. Tesla liked to call his special generators Revolving Transformers. Now why is that?

Hahaha, yes Sir, you're exactly Right!


 You ever wondered why Tesla won over DC? Because he could raise the potential so high that literally no current could be lost in the transmission over 1000's of miles. Even if the system radiated a high electric field the amount of current lost in that transmission over those 1000's of miles would be moot. It works, plain and simple. <-Hint


 JBignes5

AC is superior to DC, always will be. DC still has its uses of course.

AC is Natures Wave, everything in Nature has an AC Wave component to it! Tides, Light......

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #219 on: January 23, 2015, 11:32:35 PM »
Hi EMJunkey, I just wonder how big role here plays the core. You  said you have no luck with air core? Why?  The principle should be still the same. Generation of two opposing magnetic fields. Unless you need some sort of medium for accumulation and time propagation of the magnetic field. Take a look at the pages of Steorn ( may be you remember their free energy device-motor, the device was also shown publicly and now for many years quiet. On their pages you can download some interesting pages ;)  http://www.steorn.com/orbo/papers/

Good luck

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« Reply #220 on: January 23, 2015, 11:35:30 PM »
@ALL,

I want to thank all here! We can pickup the Bat and Ball and do something good for humanity! We can all Work together!

Its all looking really positive again! Soon it will be time to Pay it Forward!

Thank You All!

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« Reply #221 on: January 23, 2015, 11:45:16 PM »
Hi EMJunkey, I just wonder how big role here plays the core. You  said you have no luck with air core? Why?  The principle should be still the same. Generation of two opposing magnetic fields. Unless you need some sort of medium for accumulation and time propagation of the magnetic field. Take a look at the pages of Steorn ( may be you remember their free energy device-motor, the device was also shown publicly and now for many years quiet. On their pages you can download some interesting pages ;)  http://www.steorn.com/orbo/papers/

Good luck

Hi John.K1,

I believe the reason is the over all concentration of the individualised Magnetic Fields.

Yes youre right, time delays, allowing Fields to build, the whole lot...

In saying this, Lenz's Law is supposed to be Time Reversed to its Source according to Tom Bearden, I will be honest, I don't know about this!

Steorn was a shame! Its hard to stay on track, especially when many are out to shut it all down and criticise with no evidence to the contrary! I sort of understand why they let it be. Many have!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #222 on: January 24, 2015, 12:38:45 AM »
@EMJunkie:

Thank you for the answers in your post

http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg434552/#msg434552

and I hope this info will also help others who plan to do some tests.

Greetings, Conrad

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« Reply #223 on: January 24, 2015, 01:05:29 AM »
@EMJunkie:

Thank you for the answers in your post

http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg434552/#msg434552

and I hope this info will also help others who plan to do some tests.

Greetings, Conrad

No Problem  ;)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #224 on: January 24, 2015, 02:02:07 AM »
Hey Cris
two weeks before, I made a setup similar to the one posted by SkyWatcher123
and yes, with similar results.
The issue is I do not have precision instruments, so cannot make accurate measurements.
Nevertheless,  there is no change at input with or without load, which is amazing !

Encouraged, I am setting another setup and will try to send it via ordinary mail, to any expert from this forum residing in Europe, (preferably in Spain)

Attached a pic of the mentioned setup, and a schematic of the next one.
cheers
Alvaro

 

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