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John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1710 on: April 23, 2015, 11:59:04 PM »
Hi Chris, 

" TK, youre an Idiot in all senses of the word!"   :D 

Ok ,Lets test him :D ... the picture below.

I am just wondering, you said before it works better with the core.  Did you actually meant split core in the middle?

Thanks,

Peace,
PS: TK  take it easy ;)
 

John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1711 on: April 24, 2015, 12:04:04 AM »
The Orbo electric motor was a very low efficiency device.  It drove no external load and ran down a big battery.

Mark, I have done some translation of the document , where some guy mathematically proves the higher efficiency of the resonant motor and transformer etc.  I need to find it and I would appreciate if you take a look at it and tell me what you think about it.

Edit1:  Here is the Impulse LC oscilator document. 

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1712 on: April 24, 2015, 12:09:51 AM »
Hi Chris, 

" TK, youre an Idiot in all senses of the word!"   :D 

Ok ,Lets test him :D ... the picture below.

I am just wondering, you said before it works better with the core.  Did you actually meant split core in the middle?

Thanks,

Peace,
PS: TK  take it easy ;)
 

Hi John,

Results are in, TK is a Mind Control Subject, deliberately controlled to be a Stooge Troll Villainous Juvenile... No other Tests will be necessary to prove these facts...

Yes, my works shows a Core is best. I have had no luck with Air Cores.

A Split Core, yes Sometimes a split is needed, this depends on the Coil Configurations that one uses. The reason for this, simply is, in one configuration, if you Wind and connect the coils on one singular Core, then this results in a dead short of the coils.

A Split, or Gap does allow the Dead short condition to be removed or reduced. See Andrei Melenchenko's work for more verifiable evidence of this.

   Chris

Damn, TK you're a real Moron!!!


MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1713 on: April 24, 2015, 12:12:52 AM »

TK, youre an Idiot in all senses of the word!

Idiots like you will forget me, until the next me comes along, then you will forget them, and then the same with the next one... But do you know what, we could have had Free Energy machines running all of our homes over a 100 years ago if Idiots like you wernt around!

Like I have pointed out many times, what I have bought to the table is not new, its old!

What I am trying to share is not mine, its just a rediscovery of others life works!!!

So if you criticise me, and make ridiculous brain dead comments about my work, then you are in-fact also making these same ridiculous brain dead comments about their work also!!! This part obviously makes you a Troll and a Villainous Juvenile Idiot!!!

Electrical Engineers from all around the globe have tested and do not dispute the facts I have provided, but you and the Joke of all human life, MarkE does!
More ad hominem attacks.  More snooze-ville.
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Ref: http://www.padrak.com/ine/KOENIG.html
Imagine that, standard coil winding formulas work.  The document simply repeats what any coil winder has known since the late 1800s and has used to scale the voltage for solenoids, DC motors and such since then.
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This is part of my work, my work is a carry on of their work.

You're the most FOOLISH Person on the planet after MarkE! Then the other two stooges follow! Can you see TRUST, can you see COMMON SENSE, can you make an educated decision based of verifiable evidence! Can you really be of benefit to anyone that wished to become better for the future? Do you even care about the future?

I am so disheartened that you would be so stupid, deliberately!
And you offer up yet more ad hominem attacks.

John.K1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1714 on: April 24, 2015, 12:19:42 AM »
MarkE ,check my previous post with the document attached.

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1715 on: April 24, 2015, 12:20:48 AM »
More ad hominem attacks.  More snooze-ville.Imagine that, standard coil winding formulas work.  The document simply repeats what any coil winder has known since the late 1800s and has used to scale the voltage for solenoids, DC motors and such since then.And you offer up yet more ad hominem attacks.

MarkE,

Because you're too tired to actually read the data and report back on facts: "The results shown above indicate that four times more current can be used to generate a magnetic field with mirror image symmetry winding techniques."

Now, does this make you a reliable person that reports real data truthfully? No it doesn't, its makes you untrustworthy and foolish...

I did say in my results, 3 Magnitudes of order more than a simple conventional Coil....

MarkE!!! Yet another OMG (Oh My God for you retiree's)  Yet again, you've proven to be just a Fool!!! I thought you were supposed to be smart???


MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1716 on: April 24, 2015, 12:30:26 AM »
Mark, I have done some translation of the document , where some guy mathematically proves the higher efficiency of the resonant motor and transformer etc.  I need to find it and I would appreciate if you take a look at it and tell me what you think about it.
Resonance is not a factor in the operation of the Orbo motor presented at Waterways.  The motor exhibits very little torque as exemplified by the very long acceleration time constant under the no load conditions under which it was always run.  The "solid state Orbo" was a transformer inefficiently operated and ineptly measured.  Steorn claim that the transformer was their inspiration for the insipidly stupid Hepha-Heat water heater.

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1717 on: April 24, 2015, 12:33:01 AM »
Hi Chris, 

" TK, youre an Idiot in all senses of the word!"   :D 

Ok ,Lets test him :D ... the picture below.

I am just wondering, you said before it works better with the core.  Did you actually meant split core in the middle?

Thanks,

Peace,
PS: TK  take it easy ;)
 
The first two lines in that jpg don't mean anything because there is no operator connecting them to each other or the bottom line.  The bottom line sums to 2.

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1718 on: April 24, 2015, 12:43:02 AM »
MarkE,

Because you're too tired to actually read the data and report back on facts: "The results shown above indicate that four times more current can be used to generate a magnetic field with mirror image symmetry winding techniques."
Coil winders have known for over 100 years that given a fixed window area, to a close approximation that window can be divided into n turns of wire that will each have an average length of 2pi times the window center diameter.  Slice it dice it anyway that you want and for a fixed window you scale the magnetic field as n*I, and resistance and inductance as n2.  Consequently, a transformer or solenoid or DC motor has a nearly constant power loss at a given field strength.  Changing the number of turns n changes the working voltage that is appropriate for the winding.
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Now, does this make you a reliable person that reports real data truthfully? No it doesn't, its makes you untrustworthy and foolish...
I see more ad hominem attacks.
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I did say in my results, 3 Magnitudes of order more than a simple conventional Coil....
You've said many false things.
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MarkE!!! Yet another OMG (Oh My God for you retiree's)  Yet again, you've proven to be just a Fool!!! I thought you were supposed to be smart???
And thee are more ad hominem attacks.

MarkE

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1719 on: April 24, 2015, 12:49:46 AM »
Mark, I have done some translation of the document , where some guy mathematically proves the higher efficiency of the resonant motor and transformer etc.  I need to find it and I would appreciate if you take a look at it and tell me what you think about it.

Edit1:  Here is the Impulse LC oscilator document.
That document is an EE101 fail.  Reactive power is not real power.

TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1720 on: April 24, 2015, 12:54:16 AM »
Hi Chris, 

" TK, youre an Idiot in all senses of the word!"   :D 

Ok ,Lets test him :D ... the picture below.

I am just wondering, you said before it works better with the core.  Did you actually meant split core in the middle?

Thanks,

Peace,
PS: TK  take it easy ;)
 

The first two lines of 1's are irrelevant as they do not form or participate in an equation. The third line is an equation and the answer depends on the order of operations. Normally in arithmetic multiplication takes precedence over addition but one could put in parentheses in the equation in various ways that would force different answers. PEMDAS, remember?  If you care to state the equation differently, including the parentheses that indicate the order of operations meant... then of course the "trick" of the question goes away and even EMjunkie might be able to solve it correctly.
Most good calculators have the PEMDAS order of operations rules built in.

TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1721 on: April 24, 2015, 01:00:28 AM »
Hi John,

Results are in, TK is a Mind Control Subject, deliberately controlled to be a Stooge Troll Villainous Juvenile... No other Tests will be necessary to prove these facts...

Yes, my works shows a Core is best. I have had no luck with Air Cores.

A Split Core, yes Sometimes a split is needed, this depends on the Coil Configurations that one uses. The reason for this, simply is, in one configuration, if you Wind and connect the coils on one singular Core, then this results in a dead short of the coils.

A Split, or Gap does allow the Dead short condition to be removed or reduced. See Andrei Melenchenko's work for more verifiable evidence of this.

   Chris

Damn, TK you're a real Moron!!!

You cannot refute me, so once again you descend into silly insults. Insults which do nothing but reflect on your own lack of character. Your overunity claims are without support and you cannot provide any data which support them. Certainly, as we all know, you refer many times to known facts of transformer and coil behaviour and nobody denies those _known facts_. Your own FALSE CLAIMS about the systems you have kludged together are what are at issue here... claims that you cannot support with accurate measurements properly obtained with instruments properly used. You are a FALSE CLAIMANT, and a childish insulting bully to boot.

Anyone who really has what they claim in terms of OU can simply DEMONSTRATE IT, refuting me thusly. It has never happened yet, and it sure isn't going to happen coming from YOU. You've wasted years of your time and thousands of words of text, alienated many people, and you have nothing, zero, zip, nada (thanks Chet) to show for it except a box full of junk coils and an oscilloscope that you don't even know how to operate correctly. Give it up, FALSE CLAIMANT.

TinselKoala

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1722 on: April 24, 2015, 01:10:56 AM »
That document is an EE101 fail.  Reactive power is not real power.

Indeed. In fact the circuit described in the document is merely a more complicated way to do just exactly what I show in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xuXBHJcNsk

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1723 on: April 24, 2015, 01:22:54 AM »

That document is an EE101 fail.  Reactive power is not real power.


Indeed. In fact the circuit described in the document is merely a more complicated way to do just exactly what I show in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xuXBHJcNsk
Well, I disagree!

Reactive Power, in reactive power state, ie; Current/Voltage out of phase by cos(phi) is not something that should be disregarded!

    First, this power can still do work, even though it is said that it cant. LC Resonance is a form of Reactive Power and the very Magnetic Field that the Inductor produces is Kinetic!

    Second, SERPS, can easily transform this Reactive Power back to Real Power.

And so, treating Reactive Power as if it is nothing, or useless is a falsity of the textbook. Not true.

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #1724 on: April 24, 2015, 01:33:11 AM »

Well, I disagree!

Reactive Power, in reactive power state, ie; Current/Voltage out of phase by cos(phi) is not something that should be disregarded!

    First, this power can still do work, even though it is said that it cant. LC Resonance is a form of Reactive Power and the very Magnetic Field that the Inductor produces is Kinetic!

    Second, SERPS, can easily transform this Reactive Power back to Real Power.

And so, treating Reactive Power as if it is nothing, or useless is a falsity of the textbook. Not true.

I would also like to point out, for those that don't already know, SERPS, can in some cases incorporate my work into the Operational Characteristics of its Circuit, if one were to look up the Centre Tapped Transformer.... Certainly some of the devices that Jim Murray has built do use exactly the same Tech I am using...  E.G: Motors speeding up under load, speeding up so much they become uncontrollable...

   Chris