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Title: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MileHigh on January 10, 2015, 07:09:40 PM
Hilarious vid!  Young astute guy interviews Bill Alek at CES.  The sparks fly!!!

http://boingboing.net/2015/01/09/perpetual-motion-device-unveil.html?fk_bb
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: pedroxime on January 10, 2015, 07:44:50 PM
the interviewer is clearly a douchebag, he would be good to work here as a troll  ;D , we love trolls  ;D
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: poynt99 on January 10, 2015, 07:58:04 PM
As is most often the case, I think the kid hit the nail on the head...measurement error.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: poynt99 on January 10, 2015, 08:07:25 PM
Bill Alek is a very smart fellow, but if he was truly confident in his measurements, he would submit his device to a third party for confirmation.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: minnie on January 10, 2015, 08:09:10 PM



 Even the perpetrator of the fraud seemed to be chuckling to himself!
 I thought the interviewer did a superb job,good find.
             John.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: TinselKoala on January 10, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Hilarious vid!  Young astute guy interviews Bill Alek at CES.  The sparks fly!!!

http://boingboing.net/2015/01/09/perpetual-motion-device-unveil.html?fk_bb (http://boingboing.net/2015/01/09/perpetual-motion-device-unveil.html?fk_bb)

Notice the hesitation and the outright lie when he is asked whether the "technology" has been shown to MIT or other academic institutions.

He hems and haws and then says, by way of excuse for not showing it to real scientists,  that it is being introduced just now, at CES. But clearly it is exactly the same "technology" that he demonstrated months ago to Sterling Allan and others at a previous trade show, where he was supposed to demonstrate a self-charging scooter... but did not do so.

Come to one of his demonstrations with a proper Power Analyzer like a Clarke-Hess 2335A and watch him run away.
http://www.clarke-hess.com/2335A.html
Or even more hilariously, watch him make up some gobbledegook "explanation" of why such an instrument does not show the "proper" OU readings on his device.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 10, 2015, 11:36:14 PM
Notice the hesitation and the outright lie when he is asked whether the "technology" has been shown to MIT or other academic institutions.

He hems and haws and then says, by way of excuse for not showing it to real scientists,  that it is being introduced just now, at CES. But clearly it is exactly the same "technology" that he demonstrated months ago to Sterling Allan and others at a previous trade show, where he was supposed to demonstrate a self-charging scooter... but did not do so.

Come to one of his demonstrations with a proper Power Analyzer like a Clarke-Hess 2335A and watch him run away.
http://www.clarke-hess.com/2335A.html
Or even more hilariously, watch him make up some gobbledegook "explanation" of why such an instrument does not show the "proper" OU readings on his device.
I enjoyed his lie saying that he was just bringing this out for the first time, when he was at CES selling this same BS last year.  His guff concerning negative time and superconductors was hilarious.   As I recall the hotel room demonstration last year was also at CES.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 11, 2015, 10:03:26 PM
I thought the interviewer did a good job here.  I believe he said he was an electronics engineering student?  So, he recognized all of what this fellow was saying as total bullshit.

My guess is that he will not invest in this device.

Bill
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MileHigh on January 11, 2015, 11:11:08 PM
Here is the guy's actual posting on a website called TechCrunch.  It looks like a web site for the 'new generation' of twenty-something techies into the tech business.  They weren't even born when IBM made their failed PS2 play.  All you got out of that one was the dumb VGA card and (now obsolete) mouse and keyboard connectors!

http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/08/auroratek-tried-to-pitch-us-a-gadget-that-breaks-the-laws-of-physics-at-ces/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 11, 2015, 11:36:54 PM
Here is the guy's actual posting on a website called TechCrunch.  It looks like a web site for the 'new generation' of twenty-something techies into the tech business.  They weren't even born when IBM made their failed PS2 play.  All you got out of that one was the dumb VGA card and (now obsolete) mouse and keyboard connectors!

http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/08/auroratek-tried-to-pitch-us-a-gadget-that-breaks-the-laws-of-physics-at-ces/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29 (http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/08/auroratek-tried-to-pitch-us-a-gadget-that-breaks-the-laws-of-physics-at-ces/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29)

MH:

Does this mean that they will not be investing then?  I wonder what these guys would think of HoplessGirl?  Good find.

Bill
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 12, 2015, 12:07:24 AM
Here is a transcript of the interview.

Bill Alek:  That when we apply power to it input power we see more power coming out than what we put in.

Kyle Russell:  Is that like a perpetual motion machine? Uh that, it seems like not realistic. 

Bill Alek:  Oh yeah.

Kyle Russell:  You know I didn't receive a degree in electrical engineering so what am I missing?

Bill Alek:  Right. Well yeah, I mean there are are a lot of  well there's a few scams out there on the internet OK that kind of promote these technologies.
I've been into it for about fifteen years. So I ...

Kyle Russell:  So how are you not breaking the law of thermodynamics?

Bill Alek:  Well how you do it is that you acc ... you access the negative time domain OK with this technology.

Kyle Russell:  I can't tell if you are trolling me or not.

Bill Alek:  No, it gets into quantum mechanics, and special relativity.

Kyle Russell:  Can, can you use small words for me?

Bill Alek:  That's why we say it's the most advanced ...

Kyle Russell:  Break this down into small words for me.

Bill Alek:  OK well the middle description of it would be we have the transformer that's in a bifilar configuration OK that acts on electron flows by setting up opposing forces. 

Kyle Russell:  OK.

Bill Alek:  On those electron flows such that it behaves like a su... super conductor.

Kyle Russell:  OK. So it seems like you're like I think you are like replacing batteries.  So where are you selling this technology to?

Bill Alek:  Well you see in superconductors there is a quantum tunneling effect that's occurring OK in the material and it's done by setting up opposing forces inside the lattice.  We're doing the same thing with our tech.

Kyle Russell:  OK so ...

Bill Alek:  That's what's so unique about this.

Kyle Russell:  OK. So, what kind of people would end up buying this thing and putting it in their product?

Bill Alek:  The entire world.  We have a trillion dollar market with this tech.  There's no other product that can ...

Kyle Russell:  The words on your face I can't tell again if you're just messing with everyone's head or not.

Bill Alek:  No, no it's so fantastic that I have to ... to (laughs) smile.

Kyle Russell:  (laughs)

Bill Alek:  OK so who's funding this?

Bill Alek:  Umm, well we do have a small group of investors .

Kyle Russell:  OK.

Bill Alek:  Uh through Aurora's contacts.  Aurora's my partner there.  (gestures)

Kyle Russell:  OK.

Bill Alek:  And She would the one to talk to for distributors, representatives, uh people that would want to invest in the corporation.  She would be the one to talk to.

Kyle Russell:  OK.

Bill Alek:  I am just the tech guy. And I ...

Kyle Russell:  (interrupts) So what products currently use the technology?

Bill Alek:  Well we want to put it in the scooter.

Kyle Russell:  OK.

Bill Alek:  OK, Which is right behind you.

Kyle Russell:  Why is a scooter a good point for a technology that could change the world?

Bill Alek:  Uh, because it's easy to do.

Kyle Russell:  (giggles) Make something that seemingly breaks the laws of physics but this one's an easy implementation.

Bill Alek:  Oh yeah. Yeah, it's an easy demonstrator. Now, I also give demonstrations...

Kyle Russell:  (interrupts) You know minimum viable product, minimum viable product.  I like your philosophy here.

Bill Alek:  Umm, we also give demonstrations of the technology.

Kyle Russell:  OK should we come back some time for the demo or ...

Bill Alek:  Umm, ... we're giving it in the hotel room, I've got the equipment set-up there. Where I show people that I put power in and I get more power out.

Kyle Russell:  Is that possibly a measurement error?

Bill Alek:  No! No, because actually you see it actually on the oscilloscope where the phase angle literally goes over 90 degrees which is unheard of.  There's just no other electrical replacement that has this kind of behavior.

Kyle Russell:  Have you showed this off at: MIT, or Berkeley, or Stanford yet?

Bill Alek:  (pauses)  Umm ... (grimaces) No.

Kyle Russell:  Why not?

Bill Alek:  Uh, well because we're just introducing it here at the show. So umm you know that would be a ... a future possibility. 

Kyle Russell:  OK.

Bill Alek:  And they can watch the video.

Kyle Russell:  Well alright.  Well yeah I know it's going to be live on Tech Crunch so uh, ... So thanks for the brief run down.

Bill Alek:  OK, very good.  Thank you for stopping by.

Darrell Etherington: Kyle!

Kyle Russell:  So I am almost entirely certain that's not real.

Darrell Etherington:    Are you sure?


Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: vasik041 on January 12, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
But if we forget about Bill and his behavior for a moment, is the idea of "re-routing" BEMF from primary coil feasible ? Can it give OU ?  :-\
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 12, 2015, 12:48:05 PM
But if we forget about Bill and his behavior for a moment, is the idea of "re-routing" BEMF from primary coil feasible ? Can it give OU ?  :-\
BEMF is the result of induction.  Induction is the means of electromagnetic energy transfer in an electrodynamic machine.  Attempts to remove BEMF from electrodynamic machines and still have the machines function is akin to dehydrating water.

Bill Alek does not measure power correctly.  He makes three crucial errors:

1) He treats his input and output waveforms as pure sine waves.
2) He AC couples his oscilloscope inputs.
3) He does not precisely calibrate his gains.

His transformer configuration inserts a ton of leakage inductance which makes his input circuit look very inductive.  This yields a high phase angle.  He also gets waveform distortion.  Taking just the high phase angle, he calculates his input power based on the well established and correct ofr pure sine wave formula:  PREAL = PAPPARENT*cos(angle).  Efficiency is POUT/PIN, so cos(angle) ends up in the denominator.  For angles over 45 degrees, cos(theta) rapidly tends towards zero, meaning that even small errors in the angle yield large errors in the calculated efficiency:  For instance if one measures a 78 degree angle, but the real angle is 75 degrees, then the calculated efficiency reports 1.25X greater than it really is.  And that is if his waveforms are perfect sine waves which they are not.

As TK has pointed out, Bill Alek has not and will probably never test his transformer which is just a lousy transformer using an instrument designed to make accurate AC power measurements.  Nor will he ever successfully close the loop with his device.  During his demonstration to Sterling Allan at Tesla Tech last July Bill Alek mentioned getting measurement tips from Graham Gunderson.  Working for Mark Goldes, Graham Gunderson has made false overunity transformer claims of his own for about 10 years.  Those have always been based on building transformers with lots of leakage inductance:  IE poor quality transformers.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 12, 2015, 06:51:25 PM
Quote:

" Bill Alek mentioned getting measurement tips from Graham Gunderson.  Working for Mark Goldes, Graham Gunderson has made false overunity transformer claims of his own for about 10 years. "


To Bill's credit, he did manage to successfully replicate Alfred Webre's hair style...or maybe that was Aurora's handy work ?

I know that may not be 'exotic technology', but its something.

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: vasik041 on January 12, 2015, 07:40:10 PM
Hi MarkE,

Thank you for detailed answer and interesting details.
Your answer does not leave much hope for getting OU from such setup :-(

Based on number of your posts I assume you spent a lot of time here, on this forum.
Have you found anything which can be OU ? Do you think that overunity (free energy) possible in principle ?

Thanks :-)


Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 13, 2015, 02:05:32 AM
Hi MarkE,

Thank you for detailed answer and interesting details.
Your answer does not leave much hope for getting OU from such setup :-(

Based on number of your posts I assume you spent a lot of time here, on this forum.
Have you found anything which can be OU ? Do you think that overunity (free energy) possible in principle ?

Thanks :-)
OU in the sensed that most people use it:  Getting free energy from nothing, has no supporting evidence and is extraordinarily unlikely to ever be found.  Slightly more probable is that some energy source yet to be recognized exists that we can tap.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: ramset on January 13, 2015, 02:20:01 AM
Mark
Do you honestly believe that MOST people here feel that OU is getting something from Nothing??


You truly feel this way ..about your Minions...?
or are you being "Hollywood" again...


?
Oh sorry we missed your one year anniversary here  a few days ago ,I think your postings numbers are going OU ,,
something from Nothing....?
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 13, 2015, 03:41:39 AM
Mark

Oh sorry we missed your one year anniversary here  a few days ago ,I think your postings numbers are going OU ,,
something from Nothing....?

Bill Alek's hair is in full agreement.

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 13, 2015, 06:08:16 AM
Mark
Do you honestly believe that MOST people here feel that OU is getting something from Nothing??


You truly feel this way ..about your Minions...?
or are you being "Hollywood" again...


?
Oh sorry we missed your one year anniversary here  a few days ago ,I think your postings numbers are going OU ,,
something from Nothing....?
Chet, if you think that over unity isn't getting something from nothing, then feel free to post your personal definition of OU.

Yes, it has been a year since I began posting in response to fans and supporters of "Honest" Wayne Travis.  A year later, it would seem that the good citizens of Chickasha are a bit confused as to why it is that "Honest" Wayne Travis can't seem to make any of his prototypes perform as he claims they will.  Here is a hint:  Wayne's claimed discovery is not one.  Here is another hint:  Gravity is conservative.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 13, 2015, 06:53:14 AM
Whats all this have to do with Bill Alek's hair ?

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: ACG on January 13, 2015, 08:18:18 AM
the interviewer is clearly a douchebag, he would be good to work here as a troll  ;D , we love trolls  ;D

I know right!  15 years working on the project years of website promotion but when asked why not show it to Universities replies with no we just introducing it here.
Sorry, I thought you meant "interviewee".  My bad.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: ACG on January 13, 2015, 08:19:47 AM
Bill Alek is a very smart fellow, but if he was truly confident in his measurements, he would submit his device to a third party for confirmation.

Bill is all about the private back room type of validation.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: kEhYo77 on January 13, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
OU in the sensed that most people use it:  Getting free energy from nothing, has no supporting evidence and is extraordinarily unlikely to ever be found.  Slightly more probable is that some energy source yet to be recognized exists that we can tap.


What about quantum foam electromagnetic fluctuations and electron spin as an energy source?
Atoms work as a perpetual motion devices but they get their energy from the surrounding space to make electrons spin.
They absorb and emit energy all the time. It is just a matter of technique and geometry to make them coherent.
When we play with electric and magnetic fields we interact with surrounding space and influence the polarization
of dipoles of matter as well as as polarization of virtual particles and photons... That is the source of energy
for OU electromagnetic devices.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 13, 2015, 07:41:52 PM

What about quantum foam electromagnetic fluctuations and electron spin as an energy source?
Atoms work as a perpetual motion devices but they get their energy from the surrounding space to make electrons spin.
They absorb and emit energy all the time. It is just a matter of technique and geometry to make them coherent.
When we play with electric and magnetic fields we interact with surrounding space and influence the polarization
of dipoles of matter as well as as polarization of virtual particles and photons... That is the source of energy
for OU electromagnetic devices.
What about them?  In the context of the discussion, maybe you should start by stating your definition of over unity.  Then we could see how any of your examples apply to your definition.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: kEhYo77 on January 13, 2015, 08:57:34 PM
An OverUnity device is an open system that exhibits more electrical power on the output than it is required to make it operational.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: TinselKoala on January 13, 2015, 09:35:05 PM
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That is the source of energy for OU electromagnetic devices.

Which devices would that be then? Please be specific.

I mean, I have a Crystal Radio sitting on my bench right now. I don't have to provide it with a power supply, but it provides energy on the output that it is clearly greater than what _I_ am putting into it. It drives a piezo speaker element just fine, and plays religious music and talk all day and all night long, and even can light up an LED. Does that make it an OU electromagnetic device?
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 13, 2015, 09:45:43 PM
An OverUnity device is an open system that exhibits more electrical power on the output than it is required to make it operational.
An electromechanical relay and a battery would seem to fit that definition.  Are you certain that is what you want to call OU?
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: kEhYo77 on January 13, 2015, 09:46:43 PM
A crystal set is not overunity. You do input power to transmit specific frequency radio waves to make it operational, a lot of power!
You just do not pay for it. Without that source of energy emitted by an antenna it will not work.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: kEhYo77 on January 13, 2015, 09:50:39 PM
An electromechanical relay and a battery would seem to fit that definition.  Are you certain that is what you want to call OU?


Please elaborate as I do not see it that way.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 13, 2015, 09:55:50 PM

Please elaborate as I do not see it that way.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #24 on: Today at 08:57:34 PM »

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An OverUnity device is an open system that exhibits more electrical power on the output than it is required to make it operational.

It takes little power to operate a relay.  The relay connects the electrical power from the battery to the load.  Since you specify the system as open, we can put the battery outside the box.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: kEhYo77 on January 13, 2015, 10:08:43 PM


It takes little power to operate a relay.  The relay connects the electrical power from the battery to the load.  Since you specify the system as open, we can put the battery outside the box.


Don't make yourself an educated fool pretending of not knowing what an 'open system' vs. 'closed system' is.
Textbooks usually analyze closed systems but in reality one cannot make an isolated system that does not interact with the environment.
So the 'laws' we created to describe interactions are simplified not to include input from surrounding space of a so called 'closed system'.


The battery is a depletable chemical source of energy. OU electromagnetic device utilizes the energy from the sources I mentioned only and those are infinite.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 13, 2015, 10:24:42 PM

Don't make yourself an educated fool pretending of not knowing what an 'open system' v.s 'closed system' is.
Textbooks usually analyze closed systems but in reality one cannot make an isolated system that does not interact with the environment.
So the 'laws' we created to describe interactions are simplified not to include input from surrounding space of a so called 'closed system'.


The battery is a depletable chemical source of energy. OU electromagnetic device utilizes the energy from the sources I mentioned only and those are infinite.
If I present a black box that is allowed to be 'open' then it can have wires leading into it from behind the curtain.  Whether I have a battery there, a power cord plugged into the wall, a wind generator or solar panel on the roof, a diesel generator, or a bunch of gerbils madly driving little generators doesn't matter.  The black box is as you say allowed to "interact with the environment".  That environment can include any power source anyone wishes to choose. 

If you impose an endurance requirement to for example rule out batteries, that seems to imply that the device must put out more energy over time than could be stored by some means.  If one is allowed the infinite space of an open system, there is no limit to the battery capacity that could be used.

If you believe that there is energy to be tapped from some volume of space then enclose some space in a black box and see what you can get.  If you could extract energy from that space without diminishing some matter or energy then I submit to you that such a belief would fit the energy from nothing criteria that you you don't like.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: kEhYo77 on January 13, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
Placing things in a black box does not make a closed system.
Getting energy from environement is not considered 'from nothing'.
If you cannot see something it does not mean it is not there.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 14, 2015, 01:18:26 AM
All this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Bill Alek's hair.

Please get back on topic.

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 14, 2015, 03:52:59 AM
Placing things in a black box does not make a closed system.
Getting energy from environement is not considered 'from nothing'.
If you cannot see something it does not mean it is not there.
How do any of my examples violate your definition of OU?
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: TinselKoala on January 14, 2015, 04:17:38 AM
A crystal set is not overunity. You do input power to transmit specific frequency radio waves to make it operational, a lot of power!
You just do not pay for it. Without that source of energy emitted by an antenna it will not work.

So what exactly are the "OU electromagnetic devices" that you have referred to? Please be specific.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 14, 2015, 04:25:24 AM
So what exactly are the "OU electromagnetic devices" that you have referred to? Please be specific.

I think Bill Alek's hair(stolen) knows more than it lets on...thats all I'm sayin'.

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: vasik041 on January 14, 2015, 07:03:02 AM
 kEhYo77, I like your definition of OU.
 
 By some reason dear Hero Members prefer argue  about words instead of constructive dialog on the real subject.
 That actually explains other members reaction on their posts...
Common guys, be reasonable, your are not in science academy :-)
 Regards,
-V.
 
 P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VDdkolU1U
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 14, 2015, 07:12:17 AM
kEhYo77, I like your definition of OU.
 
 By some reason dear Hero Members prefer argue  about words instead of constructive dialog on the real subject.
 That actually explains other members reaction on their posts...
Common guys, be reasonable, your are not in science academy :-)
 Regards,
-V.

Good to see more members speaking out.

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 14, 2015, 07:20:36 AM
kEhYo77, I like your definition of OU.
 
 By some reason dear Hero Members prefer argue  about words instead of constructive dialog on the real subject.
 That actually explains other members reaction on their posts...
Common guys, be reasonable, your are not in science academy :-)
 Regards,
-V.
 
 P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VDdkolU1U
The critical fallacy in that video is the notion that the sections he chooses to isolate would if isolated show the external energy being applied.

If one doesn't know what they think OU or free energy is, they are going to have a devil of a time distinguishing them from ordinary things.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 14, 2015, 07:39:06 AM
Isn't anybody wondering there has been no response from Alfred Lambremont Webre, after Bill Alek copied his hair style ?

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: vasik041 on January 14, 2015, 08:28:38 AM
Cap-Z-ro how hair style is related to free energy ? Are you on wrong forum ?  ;)
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 14, 2015, 03:06:39 PM
Cap-Z-ro how hair style is related to free energy ? Are you on wrong forum ?  ;)

Just having a little fun with Bill's new hair piece vasik...lord knows, we need a little comic relief here from time to time.

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 15, 2015, 05:06:22 AM
I still think the interviewer did a good job.

Bill
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: MarkE on January 15, 2015, 06:04:24 AM
I still think the interviewer did a good job.

Bill
I think it was a good interview.  He gave Bill Alek a chance to put in simple terms his idea and Bill Alek chose to go off on baffle gab.  I thought the highlight was when the interviewer asked whether Bill Alek had shown his little wonder to major universities.  Bill Alek's facial contortions at that point were priceless.
Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 15, 2015, 06:20:48 AM
Why, he couldn't even look Bill in the eye, for gosh sakes.

Regards...

Title: Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
Post by: pedroxime on January 15, 2015, 09:43:22 PM
yes love and free energy for all, or free love and energy for everybody ;D