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Offline Gabriele

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Atmospheric engine
« on: January 10, 2015, 03:04:22 AM »
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Re: Atmospheric engine
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2015, 04:06:45 AM »
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Better yet just locate yourself on the lower elevation side of any of the mountain passes between the high desert and Los Angeles.  Compressive heating makes the area warm very often.

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Re: Atmospheric engine
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2015, 07:03:58 PM »
Ah,better. :)

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Re: Atmospheric engine
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2015, 12:50:14 PM »
Hello. I posted some new concepts about using Archimedes force to obtain perhaps overunity here:http://www.energeticambiente.it/free-energy-z-p-e/14762862-nuove-fonti-da-cui-estrarre-energia.html An italian forum...

The idea is the follow:

If i mix 2 gases that can combine eachself with the other with few energy,we can bring a container with with two gases up to high atmosfere,combine them, using the formula PV=nrt we observe that the moles of gas decreese ,so we have the container became smaller cause pression inside decreese.
Archimedes force actin on the container now become smaller and if we have a conterweight we obtain energy. At the bottom of the system,on the see level we disgregate gases with few energy and restart the cicle. I supponse to have the key of this system,but i let you thing as i do.

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Re: Atmospheric engine
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 04:27:48 PM »
You make the assumption that you can combine the gasses in one reaction and reclaim them in another without energy cost for the phase conversions.  That is not true.  If for instance we electrolyze water into H2 and O2 gasses at room temperature, in the best possible case, about 1/6th of the input energy ends-up stored in the phase transition from liquid to gas.  In the ideal case of combusting the gasses we reclaim a good portion of that stored energy as useful energy.

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 08:10:15 PM »
That is true. But i'm saying if we find 2 gaseous atoms that combines and splits easily, we can use the PV=nrt formula to get energy from archimedes force...i thought to use also ammonia gas in a container that freezes at 33 deegrees c.ca arrived in quota to move a rotary system... it is clear we have to mantain 1 bar of pression,and is true at 10 km there is only a 26% of  an Atm. I thought to use a carbonium spring,if exist, to mantain the pression inside the container. It is clear that at the bottom the propryety of ammonia of having a molecular weight inferior of the air doesn't is no mor usable... peraphs we can combine this container of ammonia at 180% of Atm with an external container (vessel) filled with for example helium to bilanciate the overweight of the ammonia cointainere. I bet this system can harvest energy for free. In Mexico, like in india, in Israel, in Uk,in Italy for example,everywhere. Now i'm eatyng an icecream and i think this is better i can do. If you open the page i linked before you can find a 3rd dot (in italian cause is my language) that try to describe an imp i would analyse better. So. Thank you Gabry

 

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