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MileHigh

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #165 on: February 10, 2015, 11:44:36 PM »
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I don't have disinterest but uninterest in doing things like that online where you can't prove anything anyway.

What you, or any claimant could do, is present your data in as credible and honest and complete a manner as possible, still understanding the limitations of YouTube and online forums.   At least make an honest attempt to do that.  If the information looks credible then you can take more steps to present your data in more detail afterwards.

But it is never done, not because it is too hard to do, but because if you (generic 'you') actually did that it would make it infinitely more difficult to fake a clip.  Alternatively, you might actually surprise yourself when you start looking seriously at your own measurement data.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #166 on: February 11, 2015, 12:20:50 AM »
I never said Bedini was a charlatan. When I was involved with Bedini I did not find him personally to be that way towards anyone.  I may not think of him as scientific and or having a good judgment of friends but He didn't seem to be pushing anything on anyone and was more passive. As for other people, some people come and go in this world. I have had some charlatans want to do business but have soon figured out their agendas and have pushed them away or exposed them if that was needed.
I don't have disinterest but uninterest in doing things like that online where you can't prove anything anyway.
You don't, but I do without reservation.  He has sold false claims for years.  I get a chuckle everytime I think about his magnetic CD/DVD "purifiers" and the speaker wire gadget he sold in the 1980s that without any reference signal input or power source was supposed to "remove the distortion" introduced by speaker wires.  His free energy machines don't produce free energy.  It is all guff.  So, you were perhaps referring to people you think are even more egregious than Bedini as those charlatans you refer to having recently worked with.  It's hard to do worse than Bedini.  Perhaps you were hooked up with the likes of Mark Goldes or Dennis Lee.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #167 on: February 11, 2015, 12:25:10 AM »


  Has anyone on here ever seen a "Free Energy Machine", if the answer is "No"
 it brings the title of this thread into question?
  That's my real problem with the whole affair.
                           John.
Earlier in the thread Rick declared that if you attend one of his presentations that he will demonstrate a real working free energy machine to you.  He also declared that he would not be able to prove that it really delivers free energy in the time frame of the demonstration.  He has rejected offers to establish a test that would prove overunity or not from his devices within two hours.  Given that his claims are extraordinary and that he is not offering to show proof, and rejects offers to establish proof, I conclude that his claims are false.  Caveat emptor.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #168 on: February 11, 2015, 12:27:14 AM »
What you, or any claimant could do, is present your data in as credible and honest and complete a manner as possible, still understanding the limitations of YouTube and online forums.   At least make an honest attempt to do that.  If the information looks credible then you can take more steps to present your data in more detail afterwards.

But it is never done, not because it is too hard to do, but because if you (generic 'you') actually did that it would make it infinitely more difficult to fake a clip.  Alternatively, you might actually surprise yourself when you start looking seriously at your own measurement data.
If any free energy claimant were to actually show proof of their claims, the world would be their oyster.  Instead of competing with the local traveling carnival for admission tickets, they would be competing with the likes of Larry Ellison for islands of their own.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #169 on: February 11, 2015, 12:39:58 AM »

I'm not sure if I should buy a ticket or not. The ticket for the conference is only $100/$200 so I would expect there will be lots of opportunities to buy stuff at the conference?
Are guests allowed to take pictures/videos during the conference?






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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #170 on: February 11, 2015, 12:49:50 AM »
Here's something you certainly _won't_ be seeing at the "Free Energy" conferences:


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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #171 on: February 11, 2015, 12:49:55 AM »
Thanks for reminding me about the CD Clarifier!  True quackery.  Look what I found!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ2scoTYmxk

The Bedini CD Ultra Clarifier - Unboxing and Checkout

It's done by what looks like a really good old school radio tech guy.  Parts of the clip are tongue in cheek.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #172 on: February 11, 2015, 02:02:38 AM »
Thanks for reminding me about the CD Clarifier!  True quackery.  Look what I found!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ2scoTYmxk

The Bedini CD Ultra Clarifier - Unboxing and Checkout

It's done by what looks like a really good old school radio tech guy.  Parts of the clip are tongue in cheek.
It's hilarious.  It has "Electromagnetic technology!"  I think that is called the DC motor.  Or maybe it refers to the wall wart.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #173 on: February 11, 2015, 03:16:24 AM »
It's hilarious.  It has "Electromagnetic technology!"  I think that is called the DC motor.  Or maybe it refers to the wall wart.

I think I have enough parts laying around to replicate that device.  A few hours work and I will have saved $180.00.  I have many cds in my collection that would benefit from being spun around at a high rpm.  I can't wait to build it, ha ha.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #174 on: February 11, 2015, 04:00:49 AM »
I think I have enough parts laying around to replicate that device.  A few hours work and I will have saved $180.00.  I have many cds in my collection that would benefit from being spun around at a high rpm.  I can't wait to build it, ha ha.

Bill
I recall perhaps correctlly or incorrectly that the thing also had a permanent magnet in it.

Bedini has been a shameless huckster for decades.

I wonder if anyone took his device and compared the raw PCM streams from a before and after CD?

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #175 on: February 11, 2015, 04:54:19 AM »
But wait, there's more!!!! From http://www.bedini.com/clarifier.htm
 
 NOTHING TREATS DIGITAL MEDIA BETTER

"Just when you thought it couldn't get any better"

After many intensive years of research, Bedini has developed the new slim-line Ultra Clarifier "HEX- BEAM".  Now with SIX opposing electro magnetic beams, nearly twice the rotation speed, vibration dampening,  improved timing processing and LED light processing indicator. You can now expect the very best treatment available from all your digital media. The new "HEX-BEAM" extracts even more information than previously thought possible. If you are an owner of one of our other clarifier models, then you can expect to relive the experience again. We guarantee you will be listening to every disc you own as least one more time.

If you have a serious investment in your audio or video components, then you owe it to yourself to take a spin on the new HEX-BEAM Ultra Clarifier . Once in a wile lighting strikes and the effects are breathtaking, a true experience of sight and sound that truly push our senses to the limit. What if you could actually reproduce this without losing all the subtleties and dynamics that digital media was intended to reproduce. With hundreds of surface imperfections across the disk "error correction" can be thought of as "using the mathematically encoded backup copies of the data that was corrupted." Not only does the CD use redundant data, but it also mixes up the bits in a predetermined way so that a small flaw on the disc will affect fewer consecutive bits of the decoded signal during the playback. Because the Ultra Clarifier treats the polymer, less error correction is used and your listening experience is greatly enhanced.

New features include:  Six Beams, LED Indicating  Timing Cycle, Improved motor and Vibration Dampening .

"HEX-BEAM" Ultra Clarifier $400.00 US MSRP  SHIPS WORLDWIDE

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #176 on: February 11, 2015, 05:01:06 AM »
But wait, there's more!!!! From http://www.bedini.com/clarifier.htm
 
 NOTHING TREATS DIGITAL MEDIA BETTER

"Just when you thought it couldn't get any better"

After many intensive years of research, Bedini has developed the new slim-line Ultra Clarifier "HEX- BEAM".  Now with SIX opposing electro magnetic beams, nearly twice the rotation speed, vibration dampening,  improved timing processing and LED light processing indicator. You can now expect the very best treatment available from all your digital media. The new "HEX-BEAM" extracts even more information than previously thought possible. If you are an owner of one of our other clarifier models, then you can expect to relive the experience again. We guarantee you will be listening to every disc you own as least one more time.

If you have a serious investment in your audio or video components, then you owe it to yourself to take a spin on the new HEX-BEAM Ultra Clarifier . Once in a wile lighting strikes and the effects are breathtaking, a true experience of sight and sound that truly push our senses to the limit. What if you could actually reproduce this without losing all the subtleties and dynamics that digital media was intended to reproduce. With hundreds of surface imperfections across the disk "error correction" can be thought of as "using the mathematically encoded backup copies of the data that was corrupted." Not only does the CD use redundant data, but it also mixes up the bits in a predetermined way so that a small flaw on the disc will affect fewer consecutive bits of the decoded signal during the playback. Because the Ultra Clarifier treats the polymer, less error correction is used and your listening experience is greatly enhanced.

New features include:  Six Beams, LED Indicating  Timing Cycle, Improved motor and Vibration Dampening .

"HEX-BEAM" Ultra Clarifier $400.00 US MSRP  SHIPS WORLDWIDE
Like I said:  Bedini is a shameless huckster.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #177 on: February 11, 2015, 05:45:00 AM »
Last week I was looking at purchasing some alum for the purpose of growing large crystals, The supplier listed a few uses for alum and one of them was the Bedini battery.  I had never head of it, but one quick search and the info is everywhere.  Many of you may know of it, you simply throw out the sulfuric acid and replace it with alum. and behold, you now have a deep cycle battery.  I have no idea if it delivers its promise, but I won't be trying it on my car battery that's for sure.
On a different note, we seem to have an obnoxious Autistic on this forum..., May God save us all. ;D

MileHigh

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #178 on: February 11, 2015, 06:47:44 AM »
My mnemonic memory brain has no limits!

Note the pit-land structure is a physical structure.  Notice that the pits are an elevated physical structure inside the CD.  No amount of imaginary Beams of Bedini are going to change the physical structure of the pits and lands.  CDs you can burn are a different story but I am not aware of Bedini making any distinction between the two technologies so let's start with the original circa 1983 technology.

It just doesn't compute.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #179 on: February 12, 2015, 02:30:09 PM »
I believe that the Bedini conference packages have been well over $1000. in the past, but IIRC that included the hotel stay for a couple of days.

Well 150k changing hands is not too bad for two days work. Who goes to these $1000 conferences ? Is it investors or people on the other forum?