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Author Topic: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago  (Read 104632 times)

pomodoro

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #150 on: February 10, 2015, 03:45:44 PM »
So,anyone actually going to this conference or even  the huge one in Idaho in July? Any idea of the cost for the idaho one, I only managed to get to a reservation screen but couldn't see prices.

jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #151 on: February 10, 2015, 04:25:51 PM »
Jon
I work with Handicapped children,and Have young family members
that some very cruel people refer to as window Lickers.


I implore you to refrain from this choice of words,I see Red when you post this .
No need to highlight  handicapped children in your posts,they cannot control their behavior ,
you can!!


Chet

im not sure if i should tell you where to stick it or give you a proper answer because my youngest son is too a special needs child but one of the things i teach him is to act as a proper child and not to rely on others to do things that are his short falls.

and there are two points that are relevant here
one is from physics, and about reality or the rejection there of: i cant remember the physicist who said it but it goes something like this:
              no mater if this is real or not, it doesn't matter, actions in our reality sill have a cause and an effect

i relate that to my son to mean that it doesn't matter what the doctor says this is what we have and we need to learn to do anything that is needed because i may not always be there and its on you to provide in my absence

and he most certainly does

and there is a new psychology definition to describe anger or discomfort or dislike :

when we as humans see a trait in other humans that we relate to these feeling, this can usually be related at some point during treatment to be equated to something we see in ourselves to not like or later disapprove of.

so the question now becomes should i ask do you have some hate in your heart your expressing outwardly towards persons using phrases like window licker?

but to be simple, the answer is no, i wont curb my choice of words till the trolls stop nonsensical repetitive responses with no practical value

MileHigh

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #152 on: February 10, 2015, 05:00:45 PM »
why yes "we" are separating the wheat from the chaff hence why we are going far away from ignoramuses like yourself  to not have less then productive conversations on little forums with small minded persons like yourself. you see we are inventors that spend time working on new ideas, not repeating the same failed experiments expecting different results.

@ window licker

 ;D

Jon

I didn't even know what a "window licker" was until this morning.  Your mother wears army boots infinity.  Now I am covered.

You really don't need to play the 'enforcer' and then find out you are the 'enforcer of ignorance.'

I am not expecting Rick to offer up any proof for his alleged over unity system that will supposedly be demoed at his conferences.  It's just another 'free energy motor boat' big fish story.  If Rick wants to show that he is wheat and not chaff then the next step is up to him.

If he "doesn't care" then I suppose that he doesn't care about the tens of millions of lives that will be saved because of his alleged technology.  It's Rick's ego vs. the fate of the world.

rickfriedrich

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #153 on: February 10, 2015, 06:43:07 PM »
Lives will or will not be saved whether a FE devise will be made available or not. More lives will be affected in relation to character than technology. Don't twist what I say. Promoting means to make people better persons is more important than promoting technology that makes their lives easier. And we are talking about something that is just one of many different alternative technologies. Solar is helping the world but is far from making the average person independent.


If he "doesn't care" then I suppose that he doesn't care about the tens of millions of lives that will be saved because of his alleged technology.  It's Rick's ego vs. the fate of the world.

MarkE

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #154 on: February 10, 2015, 07:08:24 PM »
Just as a reminder, this is from Rick's promotional material:

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ATTENTION: THIS MEETING WILL GO WAY BEYOND ALL PREVIOUS AMERICAN CONVENTIONS WE HAVE HAD. THIS IS NOT A STORY-TELLING EVENT BUT A LIVE DEMONSTRATION OF OVERUNITY SYSTEMS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE NEVER BEEN SHOWN BEFORE.
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A live demonstration of over unity systems?

Does anybody think that any serious power measurements will be made?  No, it will just be "show and tell" followed by a "toys for big boys" exercise.

On this forum there is a desire by everyone to separate the wheat from the chaff.  There is an almost emotional exhaustion in hearing about free energy claims like these.  These claims here are not to be taken seriously.  The conference will go forward but nothing will change.  In a year from now Rick will be promoting a very similar conference with very similar claims.

In a way it's like going to the circus as a young child.  You enter the fantasy world of the circus, experience it, and then you go home.  Or perhaps like going to the auto show as an adult.

MileHigh
Rick insists that he is genuine and very much unlike charlatans such as he has worked with recently.  However, from his back sliding, defensive posture, and disinterest in proving his claims one way or another, I am unable to distinguish his behavior from the likes of Bedini.

MarkE

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #155 on: February 10, 2015, 07:11:16 PM »
So,anyone actually going to this conference or even  the huge one in Idaho in July? Any idea of the cost for the idaho one, I only managed to get to a reservation screen but couldn't see prices.
I believe that the Bedini conference packages have been well over $1000. in the past, but IIRC that included the hotel stay for a couple of days.

ramset

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #156 on: February 10, 2015, 07:12:55 PM »
Jon
I suppose you should thank God your son is not so disabled that he can understand
and hold a conversation, [Not the case With the severely mentally disabled]
I have to say if we were sitting across the table from each other and you were aware of how I felt about this.
you would tread very lightly....


MH for clarity Army Boots and Using an example of a  severely disabled person to make people laugh ...or as an insult.
are in completely different categories


Chet



MarkE

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #157 on: February 10, 2015, 07:22:16 PM »
Jon
I suppose you should thank God your son is not so disabled that he can understand
and hold a conversation, [Not the case With the severely retarded]
I have to say if we were sitting across the table from each other and you were aware of how I felt about this.
you would tread very lightly....


MH for clarity Army Boots and Using an example of a  severely disabled person to make people laugh ...or as an insult.
are in completely different categories


Chet
Chet, no matter how offensive the speech it is just words.  Offensive speech defines the speaker, not their target.

ramset

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #158 on: February 10, 2015, 07:29:36 PM »
mark E
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Chet, no matter how offensive the speech it is just words.
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Sir
this is in no way a threat ,however I am quite certain those are famous last words.

MarkE

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #159 on: February 10, 2015, 07:46:29 PM »
mark E
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Chet, no matter how offensive the speech it is just words.
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Sir
this is in no way a threat ,however I am quite certain those are famous last words.
Chet, if someone says provocative things with the intent of getting an emotional response from a target, their power is defined by the target's response.  Initially the target has control over the situation.  The target can cede that control to the speaker by getting upset as is the speaker's desire, or the target can retain power over the situation by simply remaining calm.  That is not the same as giving the bad behavior a pass.  If you think about it, why should anyone give control to another who is acting out?

picowatt

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #160 on: February 10, 2015, 07:57:16 PM »
Lives will or will not be saved whether a FE devise will be made available or not. More lives will be affected in relation to character than technology. Don't twist what I say. Promoting means to make people better persons is more important than promoting technology that makes their lives easier. And we are talking about something that is just one of many different alternative technologies. Solar is helping the world but is far from making the average person independent.

Wow,

I just read a bit of this thread.  Pretty disgusting stuff.

If someone does indeed have an electrically propelled boat that has operated for two years without an external source of power, that "might" be a great thing if it was operated for a meaningful amount of time with a given battery capacity.  A few photos to allow one to gauge the size of the boat and some usage data such as the number of miles traveled or hours operated at such and such speed this many times a month using this number of batteries of this capacity, etc., would go a long way toward drawing people to an event promoted to learn how that was accomplished.  Surely this info would not give anything away for free, but certainly would do much to draw a crowd.  Of course, any such data published and later determined to be inaccurate could put the claimant into possible legal jeopardy.

With regard to all the insults and childish name calling , I am appalled.  Jon and Rick seem to have a well practiced dialogue or methodology intended to insult and demean anyone that would question their "technology".  After reading this thread, I can only assume that anyone present at this conference that poses questions similar to those raised in this thread will be treated similarly with insults and demeaning name calling so as to quiet any dissension.  Whether or not these two believe they have some "free energy" technology, their use of insults and invoking the troll response seem more so in line with many previous false claimants.

However, most of all, after reading so many replies by Jon and Rick filled with insults and childish name calling, I find it laughable that Rick can actually post a reply wherein he references "character".  He would be well advised to consider his own. 

PW

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #161 on: February 10, 2015, 08:16:15 PM »
well said, picowatt.
Mark E.: also well said; just to expand on that:
in life it is not what happens that matters as much as your reaction to what happens.

MarkE

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #162 on: February 10, 2015, 08:27:04 PM »
A number of the responses have been so askew that they might fail a Turing test.  The bottom line is that it is more of the same old, same old:  A big claim is offered with no collateral.  Caveat emptor.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #163 on: February 10, 2015, 09:23:24 PM »
I never said Bedini was a charlatan. When I was involved with Bedini I did not find him personally to be that way towards anyone.  I may not think of him as scientific and or having a good judgment of friends but He didn't seem to be pushing anything on anyone and was more passive. As for other people, some people come and go in this world. I have had some charlatans want to do business but have soon figured out their agendas and have pushed them away or exposed them if that was needed.
I don't have disinterest but uninterest in doing things like that online where you can't prove anything anyway.

Rick insists that he is genuine and very much unlike charlatans such as he has worked with recently.  However, from his back sliding, defensive posture, and disinterest in proving his claims one way or another, I am unable to distinguish his behavior from the likes of Bedini.

minnie

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #164 on: February 10, 2015, 10:16:28 PM »



  Has anyone on here ever seen a "Free Energy Machine", if the answer is "No"
 it brings the title of this thread into question?
  That's my real problem with the whole affair.
                           John.