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Author Topic: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago  (Read 104610 times)

rickfriedrich

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2015, 06:27:33 PM »
Oh and btw everyone, this is just a fake dialogue between us as we are really friends. I pay MileHigh a lot of money to pretend to contradict me so I can drive a lot more traffic to the meetings by answering the questions. lol

So there you go mister MileHigh. Why are you even here on overunity.com if you are concluded that it is all quackery? I guess when I drove my boat for two years around CDA lake rotating the batteries around it was a delusion. Whatever man. You're in your own little black box and will limit yourself to conventional thinking. There is no flight possible when people are flying over your head. You are the one who is smoke and mirrors game. Welcome to Overunity.com where people attack you for recommending it.

MileHigh

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2015, 06:28:30 PM »
Rick:

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That is a very important subject but it is not so easy to do. If we are dealing with conventional systems then it is very easy. But we are not dealing with the same thing. Some of what we show reveals how we are dealing with something entirely different. If you have my mini motor running on only 1W as shown in this latest video, and yet it is charging a battery at least a little, but all the neon lights are fully glowing and 10 or 20 or 100 bulbs are also running at full or half or partial brightness (whichever we want) but some of those bulbs have zero voltage and zero amperage then it takes a little time for us to explain in and out would you think? Yes too radical my friends. Maybe even your jaw would drop as we had some in Germany do.

The above is your sales pitch.  It's also mostly fantasy talk.  You are dealing with conventional systems, for sure.  BFD you can light neons, it's means nothing.   "Zero voltage and zero amperage" is complete BS.

The jaw dropping from my perspective is that you can get away most of the time, but not all of the time, with making statements like the one above.

And I seriously doubt that you would be able to measure the charging power output of your pulse motor.  Saying, "this is stuff that meters can't understand" is a totally nonsensical and lame excuse.

Now somebody considering going to your conferences has been exposed to a different point of view.  So much the better.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2015, 06:34:31 PM »
Rick,

You may have driven your boat around.  But notice that you gave zero information beyond that.  You are so used to not having your followers ask pertinent questions.  One hour per month or 200 hours per month?

Certainly, if you drove your boat around enough, you had to recharge the batteries.  Just like anybody that experiments with pulse motors, eventually they have to plug a battery into a regular battery charger so they can keep experimenting on the bench.

MileHigh

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2015, 06:43:26 PM »
"No that is not correct. bla bla bla MileHigh So what is this site a place of trolls?"
No, it is a place where people think critically, as opposed to believing the 'teachers' who cannot demonstrate what they teach.
There is nothing wrong with promoting anything as long as claims can be or have been verified (this magic potion cures all forms of cancer) and there is full disclosure.
MH, TK, I and many others on this forum are quite capable of reproducing and improving just about any electrical/electronic design.
If you are promoting a 'free energy' device/design but cannot demonstrate it yourself (just like Bedini, Lindemann et all), and claim that it works, imho there is something 'fishy'.
Btw, I have a long standing offer out that any inventor that can demonstrate to my satisfaction OU or even a very useful device, I will use my extensive connections to get that device to market, free of charge.

rickfriedrich

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2015, 06:52:32 PM »
If you know what I meant by the neon bulb comment you would have not said this. You are ignorant of these systems. I wasn't talking about it being a matter of power output in the neon bulbs that indeed require nothing to light up. But merely that when the neon bulbs are lighting up it is an indication of there being NO LOAD on the output. You are so blinded in your attacks that you can't even follow anything I say. And you are obviously blind and can't see that the volt meter reads ZERO voltage. Well to be fair I didn't give you much details about it. But you can see the bulb in the water with zero voltage on it. At the meetings people put their meters anywhere they wanted. Skeptics were amazed and baffled. But you are one of those skeptics that must be 120 years old and still does not believe we can fly. Sorry that is the only way I get to Europe by flying. lol There are not airplanes in this world, they are all illusions and quackery. Flying is impossible, I'll show you the math and conventional theory to prove it with almost certainty. lol!!
So if zero voltage and zero amperage is complete BS then what is your whole point?? I don't get it Mr. Troll. If you believe that it is possible then what is all the fuss? If it is not then you have everything to learn. But you are too closeminded to learn it seems.

Rick:

The above is your sales pitch.  It's also mostly fantasy talk.  You are dealing with conventional systems, for sure.  BFD you can light neons, it's means nothing.   "Zero voltage and zero amperage" is complete BS.

The jaw dropping from my perspective is that you can get away most of the time, but not all of the time, with making statements like the one above.

And I seriously doubt that you would be able to measure the charging power output of your pulse motor.  Saying, "this is stuff that meters can't understand" is a totally nonsensical and lame excuse.

Now somebody considering going to your conferences has been exposed to a different point of view.  So much the better.

MileHigh

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2015, 06:59:46 PM »
You want to do something really radical at your conference for the pulse motor build?  Challenge your builders to measure the power in and power out into the charging battery.  Let them all calculate the efficiency of their pulse motors.  Give them an hour to do that.  The assumption is that very few of them will be able to do it.  Then you teach them how to properly measure the power-out vs. power in.  Show them how to do the most basic, most obvious measurement metric for their pulse motors.

How come something as basic as that is never discussed at your conferences?  Don't you think people would want to know what the charging power and charging efficiency of their pulse motor is?

Belief is all that's necessary for some people. Belief is all that underpins the claim.

MarkE

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2015, 07:02:10 PM »
Of course. What would it be without that? We will also demonstrate the battery chargers that give you free batteries, that is restoring them from useless condition (which is another freebie so to speak).

Rick
So just to be very clear:  Someone pays you money for entrance to the show, and you will show them a working free energy machine, right?

memoryman

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2015, 07:12:35 PM »
"Belief is all that's necessary for some people. Belief is all that underpins the claim."
So, to be clear, there is NO science there? You are selling a faith based product/service ? Sounds like the 'save the world' QEG clan.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2015, 07:12:35 PM »
Rick:

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If you know what I meant by the neon bulb comment you would have not said this. You are ignorant of these systems. I wasn't talking about it being a matter of power output in the neon bulbs that indeed require nothing to light up.

I can take a wild guess.  You have a charging battery connected to the output of the pulse motor.  That means the neons are not supposed to glow.  But you can show an "amazing" demo with a charging battery in place but the neons still glow.

Is that it?

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2015, 07:32:00 PM »
Rick:

I can take a wild guess.  You have a charging battery connected to the output of the pulse motor.  That means the neons are not supposed to glow.  But you can show an "amazing" demo with a charging battery in place but the neons still glow.

Is that it?
A modest amount of wiring inductance plus a fast turn-off edge makes a flyback.  Whoopee:  the neon bulb glows.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2015, 07:40:15 PM »
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Skeptics were amazed and baffled.

I know that you state that all the time but I somehow doubt it.  There is nothing that I have ever seen you or JB present that was out of the ordinary.

Honestly, there are some people around here that if they went on a bench with you would amaze and baffle you just by doing normal, regular work on the bench.

You have been in this JB/pulse motor business for something like seven or eight years?  Without using any high-end equipment, I bet you that you don't even know how to measure the charging power output from one of your pulse motors.  Thank about that, seven or eight years in the game and my presumption is that you don't know how to measure the power output from one of your pulse motors.

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2015, 07:41:08 PM »
A modest amount of wiring inductance plus a fast turn-off edge makes a flyback.  Whoopee:  the neon bulb glows.

Hey that's no fair!  lol

memoryman

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2015, 07:46:56 PM »
But MH, faith cannot be measured...

rickfriedrich

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2015, 08:13:13 PM »
Look, I understand fishy claims and have spent just as much time as you guys exposing such people. I often say that 90% or more of the FE claims out there are bogus or just mistaken. I spend a great deal of time actually teach people how to properly evaluate batteries so that they are not mistaken. I'm not going to get into all the people I have exposed or refuse to work with because of shady business and fake stuff and mistaken claims. So I understand where you guys are coming from. And it is easy to be prejudiced against anyone that sounds similar or even against any FE claims at all. But this is overunity.com so I really won't tolerate the ultra criticisms and ignorance that is being displayed here. I am not referring to circuit expertise but ignorance otherwise. The prejudice is fairly obvious.
First off, I don't claim energy is being created but transferred. But to assume you have all knowledge of every type of energy is laughable. This is how some of you come across in your assumptions. Thus I joke with you and point to the history of science to show you how much you are limiting yourself.
So far it is not critical at all but mocking and close-mindedness. That is just as bad as magic potions cures mentality. That is NOT science but prejudice.
As for offers that's good for you. There are several people that do that but I have no idea what the satisfaction would be. If solar was not known and I can to you with batteries and a solar panel would that be enough or would it be considered impossible and thus dismissed? See my point? If it is not theoretically possible in people's minds then they assume it doesn't work no matter what they see. We are not interested in trying to get someone to believe things. We just are here to help those who wish to be helped. We are progressing a new science.
As for making things come to the market, it is not easy. There are lines that you can't cross either...


"No that is not correct. bla bla bla MileHigh So what is this site a place of trolls?"
No, it is a place where people think critically, as opposed to believing the 'teachers' who cannot demonstrate what they teach.
There is nothing wrong with promoting anything as long as claims can be or have been verified (this magic potion cures all forms of cancer) and there is full disclosure.
MH, TK, I and many others on this forum are quite capable of reproducing and improving just about any electrical/electronic design.
If you are promoting a 'free energy' device/design but cannot demonstrate it yourself (just like Bedini, Lindemann et all), and claim that it works, imho there is something 'fishy'.
Btw, I have a long standing offer out that any inventor that can demonstrate to my satisfaction OU or even a very useful device, I will use my extensive connections to get that device to market, free of charge.

rickfriedrich

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Re: New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2015, 08:16:10 PM »
Ah, finally an guy asking for clarity and not making assumptions.
Machine(s).

So just to be very clear:  Someone pays you money for entrance to the show, and you will show them a working free energy machine, right?