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Author Topic: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau  (Read 31318 times)

Paul1911

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Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« on: January 02, 2015, 03:55:40 AM »
Hi,

went to see a Pomerleau Free Energy demonstration. Was disappointed.

Some crazy coils supposedly powering saws and lamps and stuff.

Pretty easy to do with basic electronics knowledge. Batteries can be hidden everywhere, even within the coils. Thing is, most people don't have the knowledge and it seems they WANT to believe.

Disappointing, to say the least and to say that the NASA, power utility, thousands of engineers etc all went to see his devices and nobody found out how they work, or how they COULD  work is an offense to any experienced electronics technician or engineer.

Don't waste your time on this one. It's just entertainment.

All his devices work on DC, his "free energy" voltage sources follow basic rules, like for example they have an internal resistance etc.

He hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available. There are always two questions to ask: How long and How much? How much current for how long, if the calculated Wh fit anywhere inside his devices you have your answer. Nothing from outer space.

If you do the smart technician they get angry, Daniel and his protector Mario as well....

What a waste of time. They think we are all stupid.
For all his devices there is an explanation.

Why don't they build something that cannot be rebuilt by anyone else?

Found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGqaoiJwFMM

and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazFHhwZLK8



ElectricPirate

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2015, 07:42:16 AM »
How can you explain this one, there is no place to hide a battery and his device can run a small motor using only one wire connected.

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2015, 03:49:08 PM »
How can you explain this one, there is no place to hide a battery and his device can run a small motor using only one wire connected.

Did you watch the second video I posted?

One wire doesn't mean there really is only one wire. You can use small gauge litze wire, like two insulated AWG 40 in one insulation sleeve. They would appear 1 wire to the naked eye. You would need a microscope to see them.

As for the battery, there is enough space to let a small hobby motor like the ones he uses run for hours with even the smallest button cells on the market.
The SR416 for example is 4.8mm in diameter and 1.65mm high.

Even if he doesn't use double hidden wires, there are ways to make his devices with currently existing technologies. Why would he limit himself to building these modules?

He even has modules where the load is completely separated from the switch like this one here:
http://quanthommesuite.pagesperso-orange.fr/imagnews05/030105dx8.jpg

Again, button cell inside the motor. He could use:
- a transmitter receiver combination
- an oscillator which reacts to an absorbing circuit nearby (like anti-shoplifting tags)
- small wire gauge along the edges of the plexiglass (but I don't think he did it this way)
- there is even conductive transparent material on the market

Why doesn't he just take a single LED and lights it up with two fingers? Would be more impressive.

I do not claim to know how he does it but they can be built using common techniques.

He won't let you examine the modules more profoundly. I found fake solder joints which didn't connect to anything, I found current flowing where he claimed there wouldn't be any current....

It just seems to be an occupation for Daniel. At the price they charge ($25) they don't make any money.


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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2015, 05:29:48 PM »
when  those devices work ? do they work only  when Daniel is touching them ?

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2015, 07:12:31 PM »
when  those devices work ? do they work only  when Daniel is touching them ?

Some work during his show without him touching anything. Some work while he's handling them. According to them that's HIS energy.  :-D

Some work for the whole duration of the show some only for a few minutes...

It's all about hidden volume, and Wh of the batteries he uses.

And if there are no batteries he could wear a hidden transmitter and transfer energy trough resonant inductive coupling...

Nothing paranormal. Just tricks of someone knowledgeable in electronics.

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2015, 09:14:22 PM »
He hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available.

Hi Paul1911. You have called what Daniel Pomerleau does a hoax.
You have stated that he "hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available."
What actual evidence do you have that Daniel Pomerleau is using hidden batteries?




Paul1911

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2015, 10:03:06 PM »
Hi Paul1911. You have called what Daniel Pomerleau does a hoax.
You have stated that he "hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available."
What actual evidence do you have that Daniel Pomerleau is using hidden batteries?

None. I'm sorry. I should have called it "most probably a hoax".

Why probably?

Because
1. anybody with basic electronics knowledge can build working devices that look exactly the same like his
2. nobody is allowed to examine his devices more thoroughly
3. he didn't make a ton of money out of it
4. he didn't reveal his secret (if he's not after the money)
5. on the headlight powering device he has fake solder joints and shorts them out therefore "proving" that the energy doesn't come through the wires supposedly connected to the same fake solder joints (which they are not)
6. on the same device - current goes through wires where he said wouldn't be current. Therefore his claims do not correspond to what you can measure and observe in real life
7. They will tell you you can go to their place (Quebec, Canada) and study  his devices for hours and as much as you'd like. Well, try it, insist and you will see that you can't. They don't let you, just suggesting you should come to the next demonstration. The smartest thing to do would be to become friends with them and THEN they will invite you or do some private demonstration. That's when you will more likely have the opportunity to have a closer look.

So no, I don't have proof, in the same way HE doesn't have proof that there actually AREN't any batteries. And he will not disassemble his devices in order to prove anything. He actually gets quite angry if you ask to much. Weird, huh?

What's more likely, he is the misunderstood and opressed inventor or is just doing a good performance act?

Watch his show and you will understand what I mean. No need to bring scopes or multimeters or spectrum analysers or whatever.

What you'd need is a ruler to measure available hidden space and a microscope.

What annoys me is that they are "selling" it as a Free Energy demonstration, when in fact they don't prove that it really is something inexplicable.

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2015, 11:44:18 PM »
There may be some validity to the story, there have been many cases where people have had a permanent charge imbalance in their bodies and it was shown that high voltages would develop on their skin for unknown reasons. In other cases people were hypersensitive to electricity, one man would literally pass out if a cell phone was turned on within 10 feet of him. A double blind test was performed with the cell phone in another room and apparently he would pass out on command every time. He must live in a secluded area away from the city and apparently there are whole communities for people hypersensitive to electricity. I can only imagine what might happen if lightning struck nearby, all the people would be like those fainting goats, lol.
Did you happen to notice what kind of clothing he was wearing as I have a fleece lined hoody that would probably light up your christmas tree every time I move. The damn thing is a electrostatic phenomena in itself which is really annoying at times.
AC

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2015, 11:50:49 PM »
Did you happen to notice what kind of clothing he was wearing as I have a fleece lined hoody that would probably light up your christmas tree every time I move. The damn thing is a electrostatic phenomena in itself which is really annoying at times.
AC

Nothing unusual, jeans, long sleeve shirt and a basecap.

Unless they come up up with something I have no explanation for I tend to believe it's fake. Wouldn't be the first time, I mean 99% of those claims do not withstand scientific examination.

Don't get me wrong , I am the first to embrace a new free energy powered society. But for now the only truly powerful proven (and usable) sources are radioactive decay and the sun.

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2015, 12:21:14 AM »
@Paul1911
That is odd and may be grounds for a new project, lol. I have a few Arduino Pro's kicking around and an RF/electrometer/magnetometer combo would be pretty easy to throw together and only be about the size of a pack of gum. At the very least it may give some idea what is going on with some of these devices and be pretty handy in the tool belt as well...Hmm.
AC

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2015, 12:47:45 AM »
@Paul1911
That is odd and may be grounds for a new project, lol. I have a few Arduino Pro's kicking around and an RF/electrometer/magnetometer combo would be pretty easy to throw together and only be about the size of a pack of gum. At the very least it may give some idea what is going on with some of these devices and be pretty handy in the tool belt as well...Hmm.
AC

There is no point in trying to find out how his stuff works during his show. There is just not enough time AND they don't really let you investigate.
It all works on DC and you cannot measure anything weird, I had a scope and a multimeter with me

One would need to steal one of his devices to really prove anything...

Nevertheless, it's still possible to duplicate all of his stuff

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2015, 04:11:14 AM »
I believe mind power is possible. One example is the crystalization of water changes by the mood or emotions of  people  around. Is it not possible that daniel have this extreme ability to control electricity using only his mind that is part human evolution. Ive seen many people with unique ability like a boy that can see in the dark with an eye like a cat glowing at night.

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2015, 07:03:07 AM »
How can you explain this one, there is no place to hide a battery and his device can run a small motor using only one wire connected.

Be serious.  There is plenty of room for some button cells inside that motor, as we have seen on some similar Youtube videos by other folks.  Connecting one wire completes the circuit.

Folks that fake this stuff have been very creative over the years, I will give them that.  Were you around during the Mylow affair?  A little fishing line and a motor go a long way.

Bill

PS  Cool name.

forest

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Re: Canadian Free Energy Hoax Daniel Pomerleau
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2015, 11:02:02 AM »
Tesla often did the same...