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Author Topic: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations  (Read 39114 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2015, 05:41:10 AM »
Phony?
Stefan did some visits there....
phony huh??


As Johny used to say
I did not know that"


so you were there too?

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2015, 06:35:42 AM »
Phony?
Stefan did some visits there....
phony huh??


As Johny used to say
I did not know that"


so you were there too?
Is there any BS claim so ridiculous that you will not accept it?

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2015, 09:34:56 AM »
Phony?
Stefan did some visits there....
phony huh??
As Johny used to say
I did not know that"
so you were there too?
I suggest you talk to Stefan of the record.
Often reporters do not publish or report things that do not pan out for a variety of reasons
My personal investigation was no evidence was ever produced that would substantiate any claims. If you liek it was more liek Chinese rumors on Steroids
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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2015, 09:34:56 AM »
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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2015, 10:58:47 AM »
Whether the Testatika works or is fake was never truely investigated. Stefan was given a demonstration of operation, but not a dismanteling / disassembly etc.
The operation principle is mostly unknown and no working replication exists to my knowledge. It could be real, it could be fake.


Baumann was accused of several things including contact with rather young women, although he may not be a typical pedophile. In switzerland s.e.x with a 15yo is illegal, although such a girl may have real female attributes. In other countries marriage is legal from the age of 13 on, so that is relative. And Accusations are not proof... Baumann was also "seen", walking around in womens clothes in the forest. As the Methernita community is a closed religious group (some may say a sect), the people of the near village love to talk about them.


It's interesting tho, that Baumann is one of those who is capable of founding a religious cult around himself as a leader. Some parallels with Sterling maybe.

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2015, 12:12:57 PM »
Wow...just WOW.

To be honest Sterling always struck me as a 'suspect' kind of person. He just had that demeanor about him.

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
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Offline markdansie

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2015, 02:13:30 PM »

It's interesting tho, that Baumann is one of those who is capable of founding a religious cult around himself as a leader. Some parallels with Sterling maybe.
I have often in person seen cult like behavior surrounding some free energy claims. I first encountered this near my home town in Australia with the Joe Cell followers. They develop a protective hierarchy. I had my family threatened by some of the diehards in the end because I kept asking questions.  More recently the HopeGirl and QEG took on a cult like structure.
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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2015, 05:37:37 PM »

Mark E
so the short answer is No....[have you investigated the machine]





http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testart.htm
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2015, 06:22:33 PM »
Mark E
so the short answer is No....[have you investigated the machine]
If there really is no BS claim so ridiculous that you will not accept it then it is unlikely that there is any information that can bring you enlightenment.  I looked at the silly claims years and years ago.  I was unable to find any evidence of objective tests performed against the machine, much less any that supported the physics violating claims:  Physics 1E10+, Testatika 0.
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Those 15 year old demonstrations were very brief and did not measure input or output energy.  They established nothing beyond stored energy in a box, much like Potter's inept demonstrations.  And we all know what is going to happen, or more specifically what is not going to happen come March 15 with Greg Potter:  The day will come and go without any objective tests occurring that back his claims.

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2015, 07:09:16 PM »


Mark E
Sometimes Its just easier to tell the truth.A simple Yes or no...
no need to get all drama queen and "Hollywood"..


so that's a No....you have no personal experience or,   are unaware or anyone that has done a proper
investigation that showed it to be a "Hoax"or "phony"..?


thx
Chet

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2015, 07:09:16 PM »
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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2015, 08:11:37 PM »
There is one reason, and one reason only why there has never been a real investigation of the Testatika claims. It is because those in Methernitha who claim to have a working one, will not permit it.

I know someone, a "big name" that you all would recognize, who went there years ago and even held the smallest one in his hands while it was allegedly generating power. But he and his team were not permitted actually to carefully examine it, take it apart, hook up measuring instruments, etc. So all that demonstration proves is that the community, or rather Baumann himself, did not actually cooperate.

Since Baumann's death, do they still claim to have any working Testatika machines at Methernitha? I have read that they do not use a Testatika any more. It's really hard to find out first-hand information about them, but a statement to this effect did appear on their website some years ago. Now all there is is a "contact" page, with no information, and the Wayback Machine doesn't even have anything on them either.

You must also question the moral position of a "Christian" community that has a "free energy" device like the Testatika is claimed to be, which keeps it secret and does not allow it to be developed. Don't forget that many many children are actually dying, every day, from starvation and diseases caused by lack of clean water, while you are thinking about it. 

Of course, such niceties may not have mattered much to Baumann:
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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2015, 08:25:14 PM »

Mark E
Sometimes Its just easier to tell the truth.A simple Yes or no...
no need to get all drama queen and "Hollywood"..


so that's a No....you have no personal experience or,   are unaware or anyone that has done a proper
investigation that showed it to be a "Hoax"or "phony"..?
I am afraid you have reality turned upside down.  The claims for the device are extraordinary.  That means that the claims are strongly at odds with our understanding of the world in the same way that:  "Just take three steps off this 100' high ledge and grab the invisible lottery ticket that awaits you.  The lottery faries will keep you from falling.  Your invisible ticket will become visible once you grab it." Is an extraordinary claim.  Barring strong affirmative evidence, such claims are false on their face.  So long as proponents of extraordinary claims fail to show strong evidence in favor of such claims, those claims remain false on their face.  Greg Potter's water generator claims for GDS are such claims as are the Testatika claims.  There is no drama.  It is just reality.
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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2015, 08:29:40 PM »
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You must also question the moral position of a "Christian" community that has a "free energy" device like the Testatika is claimed to be, which keeps it secret and does not allow it to be developed. Don't forget that many many children are actually dying, every day, from starvation and diseases caused by lack of clean water, while you are thinking about it. 
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Yes I completely agree .


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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2015, 08:35:10 PM »
The main players at Fix the World and at Steorn should all cash in their investments, empty their bank accounts, sell their assets, and then pool all their money together and buy water pumps for Africa.

That would be tangible and be poetic justice at the same time.

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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2015, 09:43:02 PM »
Hi TK,

The only thing I can offer is salvation through Jesus Christ, No free energy from me and salvation is God's job to do...

Sometimes Christians just think they have all the answers, when they are most likely the biggest sinners even today.

This is also why I can't stand church because I see right through the mask they wear!

Happy New Year TK, and hope the best for you....

Tom


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Re: Sterling Allan Explains His Recent Resignations
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2015, 04:31:00 AM »
The main players at Fix the World and at Steorn should all cash in their investments, empty their bank accounts, sell their assets, and then pool all their money together and buy water pumps for Africa.

That would be tangible and be poetic justice at the same time.

MH:

I agree 100%.


Tommy:

I agree with you too.  I have my own beliefs but going to church with a bunch of hypocrites is not my idea of being closer to God.  (Not including all church goers here, just the churches I have attended)  I do not need anyone else to help me communicate with the God I believe in.

Chet:

I am glad that you agreed with TK on his last post.  I do too.  That is part of the hypocrisy I was speaking about above.  IF those folks had a real free energy device and would not share it...well..that speaks for itself.  Same with Witts as far as I am concerned.

Bill

 

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