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Author Topic: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!  (Read 29985 times)

Offline kEhYo77

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #60 on: December 30, 2014, 07:14:51 PM »
In that video he clearly shows that he does not understand what he has wired and what his measurements mean.


I agree with you that this man is not putting his thoughts into clear, well defined terms and accepted in physics but
he stumbled upon an effect and the effect is there, he just doesn't really know where it comes from so he says all those 'radiant' things.


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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #61 on: December 30, 2014, 07:20:11 PM »
Mark E
Your point is quite clear ,you've hammered it home sooo many times  it gets quite hard to see thru the
splatter...
so just relax..."Don't worry...Be happy" you almost appear to care.... or worry at times  ?


Chill !


thx


Chet








 

Offline MarkE

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2014, 07:31:39 PM »
Chet I wonder what you believe the anomaly to be?  What can you cite as anything unusual demonstrated by Mr. Morin, and what do you think is unusual about it that you would like to see investigated?

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2014, 07:31:39 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2014, 07:46:36 PM »
Mark
What _belief_ are you talking about?


I want to see the replication and am very grateful that Hitby13KW is going to spend his time and money to do that,and he seems like the type of fellow that will see it ALL the way thru ,  and he is approachable
and available for comments and questions...


OUR kinda Guy....

thx
Chet



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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2014, 07:59:35 PM »
Mark E
I personally have a few beliefs ...
innocent until proven guilty   is where I start from


you have a claim ,I will treat you like a gentlemen and help you properly measure it[connect you with that resource] ,or if need be get a resource to you to do this in person or [not preferred]
to replicate the Device or concept and do the evaluation from there..


But I will never assume anything as long as a man is willing to allow investigation of his [or her]
claim.
it is true that once someone refuses an invitation to investigate their claim [an untested claim]
I would be apprehensive about supporting that claim.
to date this has never happened [some are ongoing]

But I've said this dozens of times and in many different ways...
I just felt like saying it yet again....

capeesh.....?


thx


Chet

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2014, 07:59:35 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #65 on: December 30, 2014, 08:06:20 PM »
Or....
you can encourage replication of an _anomaly_  as thoroughly and quickly as possible
and _then_ offer to investigate said claim...


here there is an opportunity to do just that....


no stone left unturned....


thx
Chet

OK, eliminate the word "belief" and just tell us what "anomaly" Morin has presented.

The only anomaly that I can detect in anything he has presented is that some people, including him, believe he is presenting something anomalous.

He has presented:
electromagnetic interference to his instrumentation
pick-and-choose numbers from wildly fluctuating instrument indications
erroneous readings from an IR thermometer, not corroborated by alternate methods of measurement
a motor driven by another motor so that it acts as a generator
AC voltage increases by transformers
AC voltage decreases by transformers
"nameplate" load values rather than actual measurements
misunderstanding what "Amp-hours" of battery capacity actually means
unwarranted assumptions and mangled terminology
no actual valid input-output power measurements

And what else? Will someone please tell me what is to get all excited about here?

I invite Morin, or any prospective "replicator", to measure my TinselKoil VII output using the same techniques and "interpretations" used by Morin.
24 VDC input from two 5 A-H batteries, and this is the output:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsChNrBn5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk
Now, that is so much "overunity" by the definitions that these claimants seem to be using, that it isn't even funny. Those marks on the ruler are _inches_ .

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #66 on: December 30, 2014, 09:11:53 PM »
His level of misunderstanding is astounding and I find it hard to understand how he has got to this sad situation. He comes across so sincere in his belief that his instruments are giving accurate readings and I suspect that he is too deep into electric fairy land to be helped back to reality with advice on where he has gone wrong in his understanding of what is going on with his motor / generator device and his interpretation of the readings his instruments are giving.  :(

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #67 on: December 30, 2014, 09:14:32 PM »

I agree with you that this man is not putting his thoughts into clear, well defined terms and accepted in physics but
he stumbled upon an effect and the effect is there, he just doesn't really know where it comes from so he says all those 'radiant' things.
The effects shown in the video are quite ordinary and expected.

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #68 on: December 30, 2014, 09:20:28 PM »
Mark
What _belief_ are you talking about?

Chet I asked you what anomaly you think Morin shows:

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Or....
you can encourage replication of an _anomaly_  as thoroughly and quickly as possible
and _then_ offer to investigate said claim...


here there is an opportunity to do just that....


no stone left unturned....


thx
Chet
Please explain what anomaly you believe Morin demonstrates.
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I want to see the replication and am very grateful that Hitby13KW is going to spend his time and money to do that,and he seems like the type of fellow that will see it ALL the way thru ,  and he is approachable
and available for comments and questions...


OUR kinda Guy....

thx
Chet
Does he have a much better grasp of basic electronics than Mr. Morin?  Does he understand what connecting a 40W rated light bulb or a 60W rated light bulb in series with a large transformer does?

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #68 on: December 30, 2014, 09:20:28 PM »
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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #69 on: December 30, 2014, 09:32:23 PM »
it must Hurt??,is it painfull... ::)
the wait...


here we have a guy thats gonna investigate this mans  claim ,free of charge...
if it hurts too much to watch ...
LOOKAWAY ..... :o


or change the channel..[OH I"LL BET MONEY YOU CAN"T DO THAT....
we can see yah squirmin from here...


you fellahs gotta chill and let this run its coarse ...


aren't there any good soap operas on these days??
football??


very very impatient ...








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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #70 on: December 30, 2014, 09:36:10 PM »
Mark E
I personally have a few beliefs ...
innocent until proven guilty   is where I start from
Do you also believe:  "Any arbitrary claim is true until explicitly disproven?"


you have a claim ,I will treat you like a gentlemen and help you properly measure it[connect you with that resource] ,or if need be get a resource to you to do this in person or [not preferred]
to replicate the Device or concept and do the evaluation from there..[/quote]Morin offers several claims leading to his big one:  a claim of free energy.  His claims are at direct odds with established understanding.  Given that you espouse "innocent until proven guilty" Why do you act in apparent contradiction by entertaining Morin's accusations against established understanding without proof that established understanding is guilty of being wrong in the ways that Morin alleges?
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But I will never assume anything as long as a man is willing to allow investigation of his [or her]
claim.
Unfortunately that statement is not true.  We all rely on countless assumptions in order to make it through our daily lives.  Maybe what you mean is that:  "You will entertain any individual's claim on their word alone, so long as they tell you that they will let you investigate."  These are only suggested words.  I'd like you to explain your intent in your own words.
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it is true that once someone refuses an invitation to investigate their claim [an untested claim]
I would be apprehensive about supporting that claim.
to date this has never happened [some are ongoing]
I am sure that there are quite a few people who interpret GDS' repeated refusals to allow actual investigations or even inspections in the here and now to qualify as ... refusals.  You can believe that GDS will ultimately allow detailed inspection of their devices just like you can believe that John Rohner was ever going to show a working engine to his manufacturers or investors, or that the tooth fairy is busy shoving coins under the pillows of sleeping children.
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But I've said this dozens of times and in many different ways...
I just felt like saying it yet again....

capeesh.....?


thx


Chet

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #70 on: December 30, 2014, 09:36:10 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #71 on: December 30, 2014, 09:37:53 PM »
it must Hurt??,is it painfull... ::)
the wait...


here we have a guy thats gonna investigate this mans  claim ,free of charge...
if it hurts too much to watch ...
LOOKAWAY ..... :o


or change the channel..[OH I"LL BET MONEY YOU CAN"T DO THAT....
we can see yah squirmin from here...


you fellahs gotta chill and let this run its coarse ...


aren't there any good soap operas on these days??
football??


very very impatient ...
Don't you think the skills of the individual performing the investigation are relevant to the likelihood that his / her findings will be reliable?

Offline ramset

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2014, 09:54:58 PM »
Mark E
if it helps you to take "the court of law" model
if not...?
I really don't care ..at all...


*EDIT I  do care that you understand ,I just will not deviate from my methods for your sake.
I have certain standards which I live by and they work for me...and most of the civilized world when practiced....

But this I will guarantee you...when HitBy13KW gets this running,  he will be _approachable_[BY THOSE THAT RESPECT HIS EFFORTS]
and he will perform all necessary tests [within reason] to put this to rest one way or the other.


end of story...
and for myself..I got nothing but "gratitude"...[its a word you should look up]


thx
Chet

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2014, 11:21:43 PM »
Mark E
if it helps you to take "the court of law" model
if not...?
I really don't care ..at all...
Does not the "court of law model" also apply to established claims?  What makes them no longer true merely on someone's say so?
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*EDIT I  do care that you understand ,I just will not deviate from my methods for your sake.
I have certain standards which I live by and they work for me...and most of the civilized world when practiced....

But this I will guarantee you...when HitBy13KW gets this running,  he will be _approachable_[BY THOSE THAT RESPECT HIS EFFORTS]
and he will perform all necessary tests [within reason] to put this to rest one way or the other.
That sounds quite honorable of him.  It does not address my question as to whether he has appropriate skills or not.
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end of story...
and for myself..I got nothing but "gratitude"...[its a word you should look up]


thx
Chet

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2014, 11:58:32 PM »
This thread looks like its set for a good innings! ;D

 

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