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Author Topic: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy  (Read 60079 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2014, 04:31:53 AM »
Ah, Kenny baby, you still pretend like you just don't get it, don't you. Your pitiful attempts at salvaging your insecure ego are really sad to see. You continue with your logical fallacies and irrelevant posturings, each time demonstrating that you have no clue about how science is actually done. You are claiming a violation of some pretty strongly held laws of Nature, and you have provided no solid evidence for your claims. The "Keyboard Jockeys" against whom you flail so ineffectively, in your attempts to defend your fragile ego, are simply trying to get you to do things properly: support your claims with actual data that is reliable and can assign causal relationships. You have never yet done this with any of your demonstrations. The default position, taken by any rational person with a modicum of knowledge, is that you are wrong and your "measurements" are faulty, and many people have pointed out why and how. Since you so strongly resist reporting the results from simple control experiments, and considering your psychological makeup, there remains only one conclusion that fits the observed facts: you are a blowhard bumbler and nothing you report can be trusted.

And you are still having problems expressing yourself in English, I see. Maybe you should stick to literary criticism of Buddhist writings. At least there, you can browbeat your correspondents all you like without fear of scientific refutation. Yes, Kenny, you are full of fear, terrified that you will be proven wrong and that everyone will see how naked you are under your tattoos.

Didn't you forget something? Where's the usual chain of laughing cartoons? You have made a cartoon of yourself, you know, quite literally.


the rest of these lazy keyboard jockey worthless fucks dont "DO" anything.

they lip flap and tell you why something they NEVER DID, and NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT, is "wrong" , etc etc.

theyre cute and amusing.


You could be right,OR you could be wrong and kenny has unwittingly stumbled onto something else here.freshly cast bismuth is quite mirror-like and will,like most shiny metals,reflect far infrared radiation.if you have a near-perfect hollow mirror-sphere,will not all those ambient infrared rays be focused onto a centre-point somewhere in the middle?in violation of 2lot? There's a thread tucked away here somewhere from a few years back where a guy did similar measurements with a metalic cone-mirror and found a definite hotspot in the focal point,well above ambient temp.we may here have internal infrared reflection and focusing of ambient heat,a perpetuum mobilum.it should work with a near perfect aluminum sphere too,if I'm right

So you think a lens is overunity? You think temperature is energy? That's pretty funny.  Yes, I could be right, OR I could be wrong... and Kenny baby has the materials at hand to find out which. In fact he already knows which, but won't report the results of his own trials. You'll never see him putting his sphere and magnet into a thermally insulated container to demonstrate an actual temperature rise inside the container using a sensitive thermocouple, or doing a contact measurement with an accurate sensor like Groundloop has suggested, or any of a dozen other valid tests. Why not? I think even you, profitis, would do the tests and report them honestly.
But Kenny won't. His ego is like a stinking, rotten tooth: poke it and he screams in pain, lashes out with his insults worthy of an eight-year-old and runs for the anaesthetic toothpaste of his ego defenses. When all it would take is a tiny effort on his part, _if his claims were true_, to produce a sound refutation of his critics. Here and on Energetic Forum the story is the same, except he knows better -- barely -- than to engage in childish insults and potty mouth rantings there. He simply ignores his critics there, who have pointed out the same lackings in his naive demonstrations, and have suggested the same kinds of proper control experiments. I think it's hilarious that he can't even convince the denizens of that forum, who generally swallow any claim of "OU" hook line and sinker, with his weak demonstrations that do not even rise to the level of a sophomore science project.

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2014, 04:41:53 AM »
Just ordered 3 chunk's.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pure-99-99-Bismuth-Bullion-Bar-50-Gram-Chunk-Piece-Pieces-Silver-Like-/281127898374?pt=AU_Bullion&hash=item4174874d06#ht_1072wt_684

Have the magnets already.
Have the 8 ounce casting die's already-sinker moulds.
This one i have to try.

But do you have a color FLIR imager, of the same quality, and more importantly the same _cost_ as Kenny's? Or will you have to take the "poor man's route" and use a contact thermometer, or calorimetry in an insulated container, or try to run a LTD Stirling engine on the alleged heat output of the bismuth?

Here's a testable hypothesis from me: If your measurements support Kenny's claim, he will be ecstatic and will be your friend for life. And if they do not... he will claim that your measurements are invalid and that you are just another bumbling lip-flapping keyboard jockey who has never had an original thought and can't actually do anything right.

Offline MileHigh

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2014, 04:53:40 AM »
So true kenny.lets see if they get off their butts and rule out a 2lot violation here.

You have to REALLY start thinking straight.

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2014, 04:53:40 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2014, 05:19:51 AM »
You have to REALLY start thinking straight.

That's right. It is not the duty of critics to perform experiments that might yield results that counter the claimant's, although it may be interesting when they do so. It is _always_ the duty of the claimant to provide solid evidence for his own claims, in the form of proper measurements, properly conducted true experiments, and valid critical analyses.
You can see this happening with "real" scientists all the time. The recent case of Haruko Obokata is illustrative. She was allowed to try to repeat her own reported experiments under supervision, and when she couldn't... well, we know the rest of that story don't we. One of her co-authors even committed suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruko_Obokata

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2014, 10:22:35 AM »
Quote frm tinselkoala:'o you think a lens is overunity? You think temperature is energy?'

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Absolutely.kelvinsstatement expressly forbids spontaneous concentration of heat under even distribution conditions

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2014, 10:30:26 AM »
I get a permanent delta h gradient left-to-right in this pyrite crystal pictured here.would work far better if it were exactly in focal point of foil.shiny side of foil is on the inside against crystal

Offline TheoriaApophasis

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2014, 11:09:36 AM »
Have the magnets already.
Have the 8 ounce casting die's already-sinker moulds.
This one i have to try.




Now theres a guy that really sticks his balls to the grindstone!




(that was a compliment, in case you were in doubt)


ROFL  ;D

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
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Offline TheoriaApophasis

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2014, 11:14:04 AM »
If your measurements support Kenny's claim, he will be ecstatic and will be your friend for life. And if they do not... he will claim that your measurements are invalid and that you are just another bumbling lip-flapping keyboard jockey who has never had an original thought and can't actually do anything right.



thats not true, actually.       I know TINMAN   "DOES"



If he came back saying "well fuck you (meaning me), I couldnt reproduce X,........etc etc " ...   regarding anything I said....... it wouldnt bother me a bit, and I would never say a negative peep against him for any reason.


Ive seen TINMANS videos.........


hes a hardworking nose to the grindstone explorer, inventor etc........, and even if he called me every name in the book, I would still have all the respect in the world for the guy.


Id be the lowest dirtiest goddamn asshole alive for saying a PEEP against Tinman or anyone LIKE HIM.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2014, 11:29:20 AM »
So you have changed your mind about tinman, then? Don't you remember how you responded when he first challenged you? I do.

It's not his style to call anyone names, like you do, Kenny baby, so even now you are putting forth your usual strawman fallacy.




thats not true, actually.       I know TINMAN   "DOES"



If he came back saying "well fuck you (meaning me), I couldnt reproduce X,........etc etc " ...   regarding anything I said....... it wouldnt bother me a bit, and I would never say a negative peep against him for any reason.


Ive seen TINMANS videos.........


hes a hardworking nose to the grindstone explorer, inventor etc........, and even if he called me every name in the book, I would still have all the respect in the world for the guy.


Id be the lowest dirtiest goddamn asshole alive for saying a PEEP against Tinman or anyone LIKE HIM.

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2014, 11:36:11 AM »
Quote frm tinselkoala:'o you think a lens is overunity? You think temperature is energy?'

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Absolutely.kelvinsstatement expressly forbids spontaneous concentration of heat under even distribution conditions

Amazing. A lens is overunity, absolutely, according to you. Temperature is energy, absolutely, according to you. So everybody with a camera, everybody with a magnifying glass that concentrates the sun's light to burn a bit of paper, is using an overunity device. Amazing. That puts your posts in context, doesn't it. I expect you to be applying for Stefan's OU prize at any moment.

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2014, 12:10:24 PM »
So everybody with a camera, everybody with a magnifying glass that concentrates the sun's light to burn a bit of paper, is using an overunity device.


clueless confusion of CONNOTATION with DENOTATION.


harvesting FREE energy (from the sun OR A MAGNETIC DIVERGENCE FIELD)   is just that, FREE ENERGY, with ZERO MOVING PARTS, and only ONE PART


ONE PART = LENS (as per the sun)........... or a BISMUTH SPHERE  (as per the magnet)


ZERO INPUT FORCE VECTOR CONCENTRATION from the LOSS OF INERTIA (= force and motion),........be it light from the sun, or magnetic divergence.




and by ZERO INPUT, we mean "using / harvesting" what is ALWAYS PRESENT, ALWAYS FREE, and it need only be CONCENTRATED from its SPATIAL RAREFACTION





overunity no,  ENDLESS ZERO INPUT WORK FREE ENERGY HARVESTING, YES




The human race doesnt give a tinkers DAMN if its OVERUNITY or FREE ENERGY ,.....as long as its energy.  ;D




Now, you have to ask yourself the HYPOTHETICAL (since you deny my "experiment", which I dont give a damn if you do or not)......>>>>......is HARVESTING MAGNETIC COMPRESSION AND RAREFACTION FREE ENERGY, OR OVERUNITY





True "overunity" doesnt exist
, because one cannot HARVEST the loss of inertia without FORCING the inertia to be LOST to begin with, which requires WORK

period




ALL LOSS OF INERTIA IS THE ONLY PLACE ANY ENERGY CAN COME FROM, ........EITHER "overunity"  OR "FREE energy"

PERIOD, NOT UP FOR DEBATE, CARVED IN STONE FOR ALL TIME AND FOREVER


now, wrap your brain around THAT FACT.

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2014, 12:21:29 PM »
Ken
See ...now TinMan has to spend time on buying and replicating this ,and he may not have everything to properly analyze it.
He does much for this community..why can't you let some others carry water for him?[he's carried a lot for us]


send The Bits to NY and we'll do this for him...he has tons of other work he is desperately trying to get to ....


??
thx


Chet

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2014, 12:25:07 PM »
Ken
See ...now TinMan has to spend time on buying and replicating this ,and he may not have everything to properly analyze it.
He does much for this community..why can't you let some others carry water for him?
Chet




Wait a min. now,    :o   I never asked or requested ANYONE other than the brothers numbnuts (highformiles and tinfoilhat) to "do the work themselves"

the problem is that, everyone is too lazy to "carry water" but HIM ,........  I agree hes too busy, .....I had NO INTENTION OF DIVERTING his time or money etc etc.



I cant be accused of twisting anyones arm to do anything, much less that kind fellow.      ;D



as for the free bismuth, id be GLAD to have given him some if i knew he wanted some.
the only pisser of course being having to go to the post office to ship it to DOWN UNDER, ...however you said it can be forwarded to you.

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2014, 12:50:33 PM »
TinMan works with Us,we will get it to him as well as Dr.Jones and his"Calorimetry Crew".


thank you I will contact you later


respectfully
Chet

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Re: ZERO INPUT, 10 degrees thermal output...Yes,...genuine free energy
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2014, 02:20:07 PM »
Quote frm tinselkoala:' So everybody with a camera, everybody with a magnifying glass that concentrates the sun's light to burn a bit of paper, is using an overunity device'

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Incorrect.you need a concentrated heat source to burn paper with a lense.you don't need a concentrated heat source to raise paper above ambient temperature using mirrors.mirrors can and do violate the 2nd law thermodynamics

 

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