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Author Topic: Is this a fake?  (Read 5186 times)

Hans

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Is this a fake?
« on: September 21, 2006, 09:24:24 PM »
Hi all!

What do you think - is this company really just a scam?
http://www.akoil.ru/en/
http://www.faraday.ru/faraday_english.html

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Is this a fake?
« on: September 21, 2006, 09:24:24 PM »

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2006, 09:39:54 PM »
Personally I think anything that claims to be "free energy" should go through one of the following paths before anyone sends their hard earned money ->

1. If the company or inventor does not publish the full exact details to build the machine then the company must take the path of allowing the conventional science community to give the thumbs up. IMHO this should consist of many scientists who are experts in the field of testing such energy. For example, if the device input and output is electricity then Electrical Engineers should do the job of testing the machine.
2. If the company or inventor freely publishes the full exact details to build the machine and the cost to build the machine is reasonable and doable then by all means build the machine and spread the news.
3. If the company or inventor freely publishes the full exact details to build the machine, but it's too costly to build the machine or it is too difficult then IMHO you should wait for other people to verify the machine before spending your hard earned money on buying a prebuilt machine.

my 2 cents :)
Paul Lowrance

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2006, 12:08:03 AM »

Hi Hans

I don't know if is this device is 'for real'.

The web master of the website
http://www.faraday.ru/faraday_english.html is Alexander Frolov.

This guy sounds very serious. He had been working with Jean Louis Naudin (who, IMHO, is a serious and successful builder too).
Just check Google with these two words :  Naudin Frolov

Of course it does not prove anything about the Frolov 'AKOI' device.

Best
 

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2006, 12:08:03 AM »
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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2006, 10:12:12 AM »
if he worked with NAUDIN ..
this sound NOT seriosly


only my thinking  (oppinion) about that

(but frolow experiences possible can be positiv)


pese

Hans

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2006, 08:53:54 PM »
Hi NerzhDishual,

personally I don't think that Alexander Frolov is a con artist but I guess only time will show if I'm wrong or not.

Hans

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2006, 09:37:58 PM »
Hi Pese

Quote
If he worked with NAUDIN ..
This sounds NOT seriously


"Harti_Berlin" (the webmaster of this very Forum) also "worked" with J.L. Naudin.

For example:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/shpmm.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac1118.htm

How does this sound to you?

Best

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2006, 10:45:42 PM »
No this is OK!
Harti brings his own idea?s in.
Naudin is looking for "publicity" only.
I wil not accept the most shown
or misinterpreated "testresults".
Anybody can have own ideas.
Harti , me , others.
But its sounds not good , to
shown all as "working" , as "free-energy"
(example: H2O with Plasma in an PET bottle)
it need more Power (Amps) that you produce
Gas that can used in Motor-HP . Gas-Light or others.

Open your eyes . Befor you belive al , An lost time or
money to recreating (most) of this devices.

I think so

Pese
It is god to have "ideas" , to create and discussing
this . to make experience , BUT not offer this as
FRE ENERGY , before it is finished and CAN rebuild
(recreted) from anybody

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Re: Is this a fake?
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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2006, 11:35:56 PM »


Hi Pese,
Okay.
I do not want to  to engage in polemic. I would not dislike it. Sould my English were not too weak doing it. ;D

Of course, you can "believe whatever you want to believe" (Morpheus-Matrix) about J.L. Naudin, me, the gullibility, the false FE claimings and and the "polarity"  of the angels. ???

Very Best.

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2006, 11:39:15 PM »
@NerzhDishual

Well, I have exchanged many things with JL Naudin
in the earlier time, when we all were still working
on the Yahoo groups lists.

Now Jean Louis seems to concentrate more
on his UFO research instead of new energy.
I hope he will still develop this Hydrogen heating unit
into a real good product.

I think we are just too busy now with all new things
goring around, so I have not communicated
with him for quite some time now,
but this is normal, when you work now on different
topics.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2006, 11:39:15 PM »
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Re: Is this a fake?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2006, 12:03:42 AM »
@Harti_Berlin

Thanks for breaking in this topic.
Some friends of mine are very close to J.L. Naudin.
An important announcement could me made soon.

Very Best.

 

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