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barbosi

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #855 on: November 05, 2016, 03:52:23 AM »
I would  go first to ask a simple question: for a simple regular coil, what is a self-resonant frequency as advertised by respected manufacturers datasheets? Here you have an example: http://www.bourns.com/docs/Product-Datasheets/70f_series.pdf

I just realized that at the time I thought I knew what capacitance is. I was wrong and in that question I asked, what I was suggesting was merely the tiny sh!ty parasite capacitance.

Erfinder not only he knew the answer but now I see why he is entitled to ask the question: what capacitance is? (no matter how weird it sounds)

We are way off the base and to me, no other than Tesla delivered the answer and proved it.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #856 on: November 05, 2016, 09:34:22 AM »
capacitance~ ghost ~ Muse the diffference between the geral relativity theory(A.R.T.) and the special relativity (S.R.T.)


Teslas' Muse(Idea-"Father"(or Mother)/Inspirator) has been (Karl) Charles" Prometheus" Steinmetz
Albert Einsteins' Muse (Idea-Father(or Mother)/Inspirator) has been Herman Minkowski   


http://abenteuer-universum.de/stersterne/wl.html
Wurmloch wormwhole -diagram(m) :  https://web.physik.rwth-aachen.de/~hebbeker/lectures/ph2_02/p202_l07/img125.gif

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                                                                         body,mind,soul : consciousness
                                                                                         Trinity

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Where fishing ? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac-See
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http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/forscher-zaubern-akustische-hologramme-aus-schallwellen-a-1113620.html
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To read 4D what they think . in Realtime," Echtzeit ";
                                                                                   der Mensch,als glaesernes Objekt "Wassermann"-Zeitalter
                                                                                         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPK7ZF6jfJE


During the "Aether: to be or not to be" question and answer discussion
 playing internal with the Das Theremin also: Thereminvox, Thereminovox, Termenvox, original Aetherophon
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=theremin&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


virtual antenna
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=theremin&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


avec un peut oxygénius
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #857 on: November 06, 2016, 01:39:13 AM »
If anybody is interested (or Erfinder wants to encourage or discourage this direction), this is the circuit that I've been using in an attempt to familiarize myself with an autotransformer reactor network coupled to a pulse motor.  When energized, the mosfets on the reactor networks are shorting out the secondary winding on a 120v/24v step down transformer that is wired as an autotransformer, constituting a variable reactor.  This reduces impedance flow and allows faster charging for the peak current of the circuit.  A hall effect sensor triggers an arduino board into event mode that I can use to control the variable pulse width's of my power pulse and my reactor modulation pulses.  I am not yet harvesting the coil collapse as I just wanted to get the circuit running where it at least mimicked Erfinder's video where he apply's pulse modulation to take his interesting rotating device from 'high impedance mode' to a reduced impedance, acceleration mode. 


Dave


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #859 on: November 11, 2016, 01:21:19 PM »
Erfinder,


Are the magnets on your rotor in a monopole configuration?  Or are they alternating, N-S-N-S...?


Thanks

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #860 on: November 11, 2016, 07:34:23 PM »
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I have,, many years ago and that was while I was looking into the simple "limiter" that is built into all electric motors,, that little part known as a generator.
Another interesting note is that voltage drives current,, so you can apply an opposing voltage to the generator part and stop current from moving.

It may help to understand some have tried almost everything over the years and now operate on a level completely unknown to most. As such what you find so interesting is like saying one apple plus another apple equals two apples. That is, it is so obvious it fails to have any real meaning except to those who know almost nothing.

Don't get me wrong I don't mind your posts however if people want to move forward they need to think on a different level than what we see here. For instance you say "voltage drives current", no voltage does not drive current. What we call an electric field of force acts on charged particles causing them to move which we call an electric current... an "electric current". The sum of all forces dictate how the current of charged particles moves and it does not matter how the forces evolve only that they do. Thus we could use any number or combination of forces and not just "voltage" which is essentially a meaningless term.

You see I have given details which impart understanding relating to the how and why of things which moves the conversation forward unlike meaningless blanket statements like voltage drives current. I mean if we are going to bother talking then we may as well say something worth saying don't you think?.   

Here is something to consider, write down your thoughts for a few days then brush up on your self-analysis and critical thinking skills and review what you wrote down. You will find you haven't said anything new and in fact you just keep repeating the same old things over and over. Why is this?, because our old thoughts generally dictate how we think and unless we are self-aware of this habitual behavior we cannot change it. We must always be self-aware of our thinking in order to change our thinking and this enables us to do new things. The problem is not understanding it is that we have forgotten how to learn, learning how to learn by understanding how we think is the first step.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #861 on: November 12, 2016, 01:49:41 AM »
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At some point in time have you not questioned the very nature of the interactions that are in play?
I have always questioned the very nature of all interactions on every level I know of then I questioned why I questioned them then I came to understand better answers follow better questions.

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Does the magnetic field interact the same for all charge carriers.  Does voltage interact the same for all charge carriers?
Good question however what is the nature of the question?. I would change the question as the term "charge carrier" is ambiguous, is a charge the electron particle or the field associated with the electron and how is it carried?. Does the magnetic field or rather a motional electric field interact the same for all other particle fields?... I guess that would depend on how many other variables are involved. For instance if we had 52 variables there would be more permutations than there are atoms on Earth. It is quite large and the odds of stumbling upon the correct variation are near zero hence our dilemma.

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Then you get left with,, What is a charge carrier?  Is a charge carrier a certain reaction to some observation of change between something?
The answer is dependent on the nature of the question...what is a charge carrier? A critical thinker might ask why do I think it is a charge carrier, why that terminology and not some other?. Why "charge" which is a meaningless term and not field property relating to a particle, why carrier when we do not know it is carried?. The field could move with a particle but not be carried if it is induced and this implies two forces are at work.

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Simple questions for some,, or are they?
The question often tells us more about the person and their thinking than their answer ever could. It may very well be the solution cannot be found in the answer more so the nature or posturing of the question which led to their answer.

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As long as there is room to change what a person understands they can learn.
I also thought understanding was the answer then I learned our mind is literally hard wired to comprehend all our surroundings in known ways. Our way of thinking is habitual thus in order to truly change our level of understanding and learn we must first change our mind. Learning new things also relates to un-learning and discarding old things which cannot co-exist.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #862 on: November 12, 2016, 02:07:31 AM »
@webby1I have always questioned the very nature of all interactions on every level I know of then I questioned why I questioned them then I came to understand better answers follow better questions.
Good question however what is the nature of the question?. I would change the question as the term "charge carrier" is ambiguous, is a charge the electron particle or the field associated with the electron and how is it carried?. Does the magnetic field or rather a motional electric field interact the same for all other particle fields?... I guess that would depend on how many other variables are involved. For instance if we had 52 variables there would be more permutations than there are atoms on Earth. It is quite large and the odds of stumbling upon the correct variation are near zero hence our dilemma.
The answer is dependent on the nature of the question...what is a charge carrier? A critical thinker might ask why do I think it is a charge carrier, why that terminology and not some other?. Why "charge" which is a meaningless term and not field property relating to a particle, why carrier when we do not know it is carried?. The field could move with a particle but not be carried if it is induced and this implies two forces are at work.
The question often tells us more about the person and their thinking than their answer ever could. It may very well be the solution cannot be found in the answer more so the nature or posturing of the question which led to their answer.
I also thought understanding was the answer then I learned our mind is literally hard wired to comprehend all our surroundings in known ways. Our way of thinking is habitual thus in order to truly change our level of understanding and learn we must first change our mind. Learning new things also relates to un-learning and discarding old things which cannot co-exist.

AC

Is there a magnetic field produced by electrons flowing across a spark gap? If so, is it any different, as in denser, weaker, than the field produced by electron flow in a conductor?

Mags

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #863 on: November 12, 2016, 05:05:11 PM »

really....

what I know.....

Your supposition that I am offering you anything other than that which you have yet to recognize and claim is indeed interesting....


Well? how many faeries can dance on the head of a pin? I am sure you and all-canadian can tell us??? 

Yeesh, I have never heard so much non-nonsensical self aggrandizement in all my life

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #864 on: November 12, 2016, 07:46:59 PM »
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Well? how many faeries can dance on the head of a pin? I am sure you and all-canadian can tell us??? 
Yeesh, I have never heard so much non-nonsensical self aggrandizement in all my life

I was raised on a farm and my feet have always been firmly planted on the ground in this respect but common sense won't get us where we want to go Ron. Let's cut to the chase, I have working FE devices and I have for some time which is how I know you and most others don't have a hope in hell of ever stumbling on to how it actually works. The odds are effectively zero because most do not fully understand what they already claim to know and have no new knowledge which allows them to move forward. As well, no, I'm not going to tell anyone how to do this anymore than any of you would for obvious reasons.

The insight which allows me to succeed is as follows, we cannot build something we cannot understand let alone imagine. We build until it is understood that what we are doing is not working then if were lucky we use self-reflection/self-analysis. Why is nothing working, what am I doing wrong, what am I missing and why can I not move forward?. Then we can start to lay blame or we can look at other people who have found success and understand they talk differently, they use different terminology, they think differently and see everything from a completely different perspective than most.

Logic would suggest normal common sense people never do extraordinary things because they think like normal people and not extraordinary people. Logic would suggest if we want to do something different we must first start by thinking differently which leads to new ways to look at everything and new idea's concerning common problems. Thus to say I want to be normal but do extraordinary things is to fail miserably... extraordinary thoughts invoke extraordinary events not mediocrity.

So please spare me your rhetoric implying joe blow down the street wallowing in his own sense of self-imposed ignorance and mediocrity is ever going to nail down this technology. That is non-nonsensical self aggrandizement because the people who we know have succeeded in the past were willing to put aside everything they thought they knew and believed in order to succeed... are you?.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #865 on: November 12, 2016, 11:19:42 PM »
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With such powers of observation and reflection why is it that you have not figured out yet that you can not teach people to un-learn what they think they know?
Often I have seen a better approach is to show them how to do something so that then they teach themselves something that is in contrast to what they understand.
This also has a higher tendency to "open" there minds.
It is strange that the level of understanding of universal law required to build a functioning FE device generally always leads to the understanding that this technology is incompatible with human nature as we know it. It is only after recent events, the U.S. election, that I have come to truly understand this and admit to myself I was wrong. Most people should not have this technology because they would misuse it and destroy everything we hold dear because it is in their nature to do so. As you implied, there is no un-learning human nature nor opening anyone's mind when it remains closed.

Everything in our life relates to the choices we make, we have the right to make our choice however others also have the right to judge us based on the choices we make.

AC


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #866 on: November 13, 2016, 04:59:20 PM »
@Iron
I was raised on a farm and my feet have always been firmly planted on the ground in this respect but common sense won't get us where we want to go Ron. Let's cut to the chase, I have working FE devices and I have for some time which is how I know you and most others don't have a hope in hell of ever stumbling on to how it actually works. The odds are effectively zero because most do not fully understand what they already claim to know and have no new knowledge which allows them to move forward. As well, no, I'm not going to tell anyone how to do this anymore than any of you would for obvious reasons.

The insight which allows me to succeed is as follows, we cannot build something we cannot understand let alone imagine. We build until it is understood that what we are doing is not working then if were lucky we use self-reflection/self-analysis. Why is nothing working, what am I doing wrong, what am I missing and why can I not move forward?. Then we can start to lay blame or we can look at other people who have found success and understand they talk differently, they use different terminology, they think differently and see everything from a completely different perspective than most.

Logic would suggest normal common sense people never do extraordinary things because they think like normal people and not extraordinary people. Logic would suggest if we want to do something different we must first start by thinking differently which leads to new ways to look at everything and new idea's concerning common problems. Thus to say I want to be normal but do extraordinary things is to fail miserably... extraordinary thoughts invoke extraordinary events not mediocrity.

So please spare me your rhetoric implying joe blow down the street wallowing in his own sense of self-imposed ignorance and mediocrity is ever going to nail down this technology. That is non-nonsensical self aggrandizement because the people who we know have succeeded in the past were willing to put aside everything they thought they knew and believed in order to succeed... are you?.

AC


I too am a country boy and one of the games we used to play was to run up any mound or small pile of dirt and sing out,...

 "I'm the king of the castle --- you are the dirty rascal"

So i find it quite fascinating to see you and erfinder playing the same game as supposed adults?

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #867 on: November 13, 2016, 05:04:30 PM »
@webby1It is strange that the level of understanding of universal law required to build a functioning FE device generally always leads to the understanding that this technology is incompatible with human nature as we know it. It is only after recent events, the U.S. election, that I have come to truly understand this and admit to myself I was wrong. Most people should not have this technology because they would misuse it and destroy everything we hold dear because it is in their nature to do so. As you implied, there is no un-learning human nature nor opening anyone's mind when it remains closed.

Everything in our life relates to the choices we make, we have the right to make our choice however others also have the right to judge us based on the choices we make.

AC


Oh give us a break, the secret government already has this technology (UFO's, weather control) and is already misusing it, why put the blame on us? It is just more, "blame the victim"


The point I was making is that we are being called stupid, yet in 82 pages you two have not posted ANY education material.


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #868 on: November 14, 2016, 12:09:08 AM »
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Oh give us a break, the secret government already has this technology (UFO's, weather control) and is already misusing it, why put the blame on us? It is just more, "blame the victim"
I am not blaming you for your nature any more than I blame myself for mine, we own it. I'm just saying I think I understand human nature well enough from what I have observed to know some things are better left unsaid and undone.

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The point I was making is that we are being called stupid, yet in 82 pages you two have not posted ANY education material.
I make observations, I have thoughts and sometimes I share my thoughts. I started with a question we all ask ourselves at some point...why is this not working for me?. What I found was that thing which was not working was ... me. My attitude, my motivation, the way I approach problems, all those pre-conceived notions I carry with me and a complete lack of clarity. I am not the one to help you find your answers my friend because you know yourself better than me.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #869 on: November 14, 2016, 09:28:43 AM »
You either do or not do....there is no try.
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