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EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #720 on: October 08, 2016, 09:40:01 AM »
Quote from: tinman on October 08, 2016, 07:50:44 AM
Well Chris,it's like this.
It seems to me that you are doing your best to point out negatives that just do not exist in your build attempt.
The first one being that to drill the hole through the laminated core would be next to impossible,as per the engineering shops comments.
Second,you say that it is near impossible to get the stator out of the housing without damage of some sort,and you point out that there is no damage what so ever present in or on the housing of my motor.

First i showed you that a hole can be drilled into a laminated core with ease--if you know what your doing. This puts your first !near impossibility! into the !easy as! basket,and shows that it can be done with ease-with any size laminated core.

So now i will have to put the second concern to rest,in that you find it hard to believe that the stator can be removed within 20 second's,without so much as a scratch.

So i'll be back in a while,to post the video,that once again will show you that what you think near impossible,is done with ease.

No,i would not like to join the build off. That is reserved for those that junk my work,but as seen many times now,will never take me on.

I have shown you that it is quite easy to drill the hole in the laminated core.
I will soon show you how easy it is to get the stator out.

As i clearly stated way back in the thread where the measurements took place,under the guidance of PW and MarkE,there would be no full disclosure of the entire workings of the RT--and that remains to date.


Brad




Oh Brad, I am not junking your work, why would you think this?

Clearly I admire your work, or I would have never even attempted to replicate the RT in the first place! I don’t work on worthless Junk! Or Study it either!

Some might see my critique as negative, but I see it as positive!!! You see, now I have learnt something, and I am very sure others have also!!! Rusty and Corroded as well... Nice!

I gave you a thumbs up, if I could I would give you more! So where is the negative in this so far?

Now on a negative note: I hear its near impossible to Spin up a Sleeve put a Coil on it, spin up a cover sleeve and press fit it into the Newly Bored Hole?

Mate I am pulling your leg.


   Chris Sykes
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P.S: I get it, "for those" - Its ok, I am a bit slow today ;)
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Grumage

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #721 on: October 08, 2016, 12:16:46 PM »
Quote from: tinman on October 08, 2016, 09:00:26 AM
How to do the !hard! things easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3nWWtmPq6I


Brad

Dear Brad.

With the right tools available. " The impossible takes but a few moments, miracles just a little longer!"

You have my full attention.........

Cheers Grum.
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citfta

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #722 on: October 08, 2016, 01:18:56 PM »
Hey Brad,

Thanks for the video.  Nicely done!  It is always a pleasure to watch a craftsman at work.  And almost always educational too.

I knew how to bore a hole in the laminations.  An old machinist taught me that trick years ago.  But the way you removed the coils and laminations from the case was an ingenious idea.

Carroll
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tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #723 on: October 08, 2016, 02:20:01 PM »
Quote from: Grumage on October 08, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
Dear Brad.

With the right tools available. " The impossible takes but a few moments, miracles just a little longer!"

You have my full attention.........

Cheers Grum.

I always thought it was miracles are done at once,but the impossible takes a little longer lol.


Brad
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Grumage

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #724 on: October 08, 2016, 05:15:14 PM »
Quote from: tinman on October 08, 2016, 02:20:01 PM
I always thought it was miracles are done at once,but the impossible takes a little longer lol.


Brad

 :)

Ah..... Perhaps being an Aussie like the Welsh some sentences read backwards??   ;)

Cheers Grum.
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allcanadian

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #725 on: October 08, 2016, 10:39:24 PM »
Hey Luc
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So what's up with this Tesla radiant matter stuff?[/size]Could you explain it in a way that a simple experimenter like me could get it


I will start a new thread tonight and go through what is required. In my setup I was using a 100 KV DC supply, Tesla's magnetically quenched spark gap and an 8" stainless steel spherical electrode.


AC
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gotoluc

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #726 on: October 08, 2016, 11:58:58 PM »
Quote from: allcanadian on October 08, 2016, 10:39:24 PM
Hey Luc

I will start a new thread tonight and go through what is required. In my setup I was using a 100 KV DC supply, Tesla's magnetically quenched spark gap and an 8" stainless steel spherical electrode.


AC


Thanks AC


Looking forward to the topic ;)


Thanks for sharing


Luc
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i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #727 on: October 13, 2016, 10:33:27 PM »



Hi Guys,
 
 I shot a quick video just to prove that at one point in time it worked! There has literally been no smoke free days while this was under development. The best word to describe it is "SNAFU" situation normal... all f*cked up.
 
 The coil is one coil from my Bedini days energizer. One written up by Patrick Kelly in D3, incidentally. It is a five strand coil, with two strands in series for this experiment. It was inspired by Carroll's and erfinder's work. So what you see here is a work in progress. Mind you, with just the recovery of the powered coils the thing is working better than when it was a three coil energizer!
 
 The main power board is set up for two 180 degree power mosfets for coil shorting and coil driving. The cap dump is set to trigger at 24 volts and with a latch built around the TC426 gate drive chip, turn off at 15 volts. It is only running at around 20 Hz as I need a bigger cap bank to cut down on the too rapid filling. As it is the DMM won't keep up with changing voltage.
 
  Ron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUtlenDllA
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i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #728 on: October 14, 2016, 10:13:50 PM »



Hi all,

Well the coil shorting was not something I could make work.

However, just the power coils (two in series) pulsed at 46 per minute. With the next two in series and with its own diode the pulse rate went up to 52 per minute. Some slight progress.

Ron
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #729 on: October 15, 2016, 05:02:12 AM »
Quote from: i_ron on October 13, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
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 The main power board is set up for two 180 degree power mosfets for coil shorting and coil driving.
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Could you elaborate on this Ron. Does this mean you are pulsing the series connected strands, then coil shorting the other strands during the off mode of the series coil? That is, the short is 180 degrees relative to the pulse? Have you tried simultaneous pulsing of the series connected strands, with the other strands shorted during the pulse, with both mosfets open after the pulse?

Trying to understand your sequencing of coil pulsing and shorting, and which coils are doing what.
Cheers Ron
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i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #730 on: October 15, 2016, 05:44:29 PM »
Quote from: hoptoad on October 15, 2016, 05:02:12 AM
Could you elaborate on this Ron. Does this mean you are pulsing the series connected strands, then coil shorting the other strands during the off mode of the series coil? That is, the short is 180 degrees relative to the pulse? Have you tried simultaneous pulsing of the series connected strands, with the other strands shorted during the pulse, with both mosfets open after the pulse?

Trying to understand your sequencing of coil pulsing and shorting, and which coils are doing what.
Cheers Ron


Sorry Hoptoad, I was having a seniors moment there!  The two pulses are nearly simultaneous. What I was aiming for was the shorting pulse to be shorter than the power pulse. To achieve that I used the propagation delay of the four sections of a CD4011 which delays the power pulse by say 180 uS. But I was using mosfets so damned body diode gets into the act. Not a fair test, just a. "what I was doing didn't work", test.


Edit: However, with no coil shorting, the cap dump circuit works great. I was wondering if it was working at all at 7.5 mS dump pulse but that was with a nearly charged battery --- with a battery from storage at 10 volts,  the pulse length went to 42 mS so quite happy.


Ron


 
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i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #731 on: October 15, 2016, 08:53:15 PM »
Quote from: webby1 on October 15, 2016, 06:29:59 PM
What might happen if the primary had a low inductance\resistance and just before the peak voltage was reached a second coil was then shorted or connected to an empty cap?

I see the primary having a small current suddenly bursting a high current pulse due to the transformer action with the second coil, the flux field is charge carrier motion,, so the flux field would jump up from the,,,, lets just call it an impulse current hit,,  now provide some form of interactive resistance to the collapse of the now large flux field, that sounds to me like an inductive interaction.

Just thinking in public,, :)


Same here.. I think we are still miles from where erfinder is at this time


Ron
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citfta

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #732 on: October 15, 2016, 09:11:43 PM »
Ron,

I went  back and tried that circuit again with mosfets and it did NOT work.  Apparently you are right about the internal diode causing problems with this circuit.  If you use a couple of 2n3055 transistors or something similar you should get the same results I got in the video.  And I did not have any delay between the switching of the transistors.  They both turned on and off together.  Hope this helps some.

Carroll
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i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #733 on: October 16, 2016, 12:09:41 AM »
Quote from: citfta on October 15, 2016, 09:11:43 PM
Ron,

I went  back and tried that circuit again with mosfets and it did NOT work.  Apparently you are right about the internal diode causing problems with this circuit.  If you use a couple of 2n3055 transistors or something similar you should get the same results I got in the video.  And I did not have any delay between the switching of the transistors.  They both turned on and off together.  Hope this helps some.

Carroll




Thanks Carroll, I will try again next week.


Ron
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hoptoad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #734 on: October 16, 2016, 11:21:28 AM »
Quote from: i_ron on October 15, 2016, 05:44:29 PM
Sorry Hoptoad, I was having a seniors moment there!  The two pulses are nearly simultaneous.
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Ron
Thanks, that answers my query. And don't worry about having a seniors moment. I have them too!
I deal with people whose seniors moment lasts all day. When your moments become minutes, start worrying.

Cheers
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