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citfta

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #600 on: September 25, 2016, 10:28:14 PM »

erfinder, In all your dozens of posts, helpful hints, subject out lines, ego polishing, character assassinations... I am still completely in the dark, not even a starting point?? Can you do better??? What is it you want us to see? ???


Ron

I am going to stick my neck way out here and probably get it cut off.  But I think this may be part of what Erfinder is trying to get us to see.  If you look at the attached circuit you will see that as you pulse the transformer one of the secondary windings is shorted.  When the pulse is removed the short is also removed allowing the collapsing magnetic field to charge the cap through the bridge I have across the other secondary winding.  The transformer is a standard 120 volt primary with a tapped secondary with an output of 12-0-12.  The interesting thing is with the coil shorting technique I can pulse the primary with only 12 volts and charge the cap to over 12 volts.  There should have been only 1.2 volts going to the cap.  But pulses do strange things with transformers.  And shorting one of the secondaries does even more strange things.

 Build this circuit and try it both when shorting the secondary and without shorting the secondary.  See what you get.  You can use whatever you want to control the transistors but I have included a simple 555 timer circuit if you don't have a function generator or microprocessor to give you the pulses.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #601 on: September 26, 2016, 02:25:15 AM »

erfinder, In all your dozens of posts, helpful hints, subject out lines, ego polishing, character assassinations... I am still completely in the dark, not even a starting point?? Can you do better??? What is it you want us to see????


Ron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyLz2cXn49s


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #602 on: September 26, 2016, 05:03:57 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyLz2cXn49s


Brad





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lancaIV

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #603 on: September 26, 2016, 05:13:21 AM »
i_ron ;D  how you show us: subject out lines, ego polishing, character assassinations
                                       us: the male race     specially: "us",the white "HERRENRASSE"
                                       us: not we,but them            not I,but he (or : she !)


                                      "us":you,i_ron                      "us": but I and he,Erfinder,too(level-difference)
                                                                                     (special case ,Erfinder: not I and the donkey)

                                             tribe tribut tribunal
i_ron   - your personal        at-tribution ,here ?          yokes ? hihihohohaha :sufficient ! And now ?


                                         butter to the fish !             


         


He wrote clearly about his intentions,not to disclose "special information" cause personal economical interests: you- i_ron, I ,we all, have to accept people own and personal behaviour with or without
                hints by their intentions


                 Lenz "free" generator does not mean  Limit free generator,social limits


                 to disclose all the secrets ,there are to many Mr. and Mrs. "NIMMERSATT",
                 giving one "finger-tip" and becoming slaved,NO !
                 we are not the "HEILSARMEE"


When you go to estatal R&D institutions/organisations do you mean that they there have to disclose to you all their know-ledge cause they are paid by the citizen tax ? ::)
When you go to christian universities and colleges do you mean they have to disclose you all their
scientifical property ? ::)
                                                    are you (a)"backfish/selfisch" ? life newbie ? fresh born ?


                                                                    ora et labora


                                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_degree       
                   academical:docere,Docent,Doctor (in ..... faculta) degree ~ economical : patent grant        WIPO -international- granted !
                                                                  docere ~ to teach ,to educate


  patent EXAMINATION by international,knowledge reknowned,patent office "peers" and then "academic of science peers" later approved


                                                                        chicken or egg 
                                                  first practizise then theory   or vice-versa   
                                                  first the newbie then the elder or vice-versa


Some,many, users in this forum invested time and financial,material, resources to resolve -from the society not done- problems   
                           there is not the need of several people mobbing or mental pressure behaviour   


Who has something in his hand and head can as minimum claim/apply for copy-right,utility model,or new technical standart model(l)


we are not living in an altruistic world ,even our "family" as social group model(l) is based by each of the family members opportunity
         
And who has something should ever demand for the NDA ,saved by warranty: capital safety ( can be also the life from the assignor) !


                                caput,capita,capital: head,the main (non/destroyable: the highest value)


                       I do not think that educated people with Master-degree or knowledge range do
                                                      pearls before the swine throw


                                                                     Overdosis risc !
                               The pigs could become "meneater" !  Pigs,porcs are carnivore !


                     But I am not Master (Maester ? breeder,grower,fattener) I am only "Mister/Mr."(Stallbursche :P  mist=dung,dung servant)


                                                 Education by international reknowned BS-societies,not stolen,offered by them.
                                                                              I only recycle it ;)


                                 human babies,so nice and sweet : carnivore-treatment in the Mutterleib( womb ; German : Wampe :Fat man his belly)
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.katholisch.de%2Faktuelles%2Faktuelle-artikel%2Fkain-und-abel&edit-text=
                                     Kain,aehh Pardon,Kein abel(Fachchinesisch !),abel hat geschmeckt ! 8)

                                                      disobedience : glutton ~ Nimmersatt

                                 Die Dinosaurier,werden immer trauriger,denn Noah laesst sie nicht an Bord  ;D
                                                   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yPraxHBdUU
                                                   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBk0CA0bhb0
« Last Edit: September 26, 2016, 07:37:35 AM by lancaIV »

i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #604 on: September 26, 2016, 05:06:17 PM »

The sane thing to do is just ignore me...  You were informed by those who "know", that I don't know what I am talking about.   


I am capable of sorting out various inputs and forming my own conclusions. I read your posts, I have talked with you on skype. So the impression I get is that you have something and would love to tell us all about it.


However it is the frustration of the cat and mouse game that you play that prompts me to write. Ahh, this is the direction to run in....BAM, down comes the paw, claws extended and the poor mouse (me) (us?) is flung up into the air again and again.


It is like trying to get something sensible out of Dave or Matt.


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #605 on: September 26, 2016, 05:25:11 PM »
I am going to stick my neck way out here and probably get it cut off.  But I think this may be part of what Erfinder is trying to get us to see.  If you look at the attached circuit you will see that as you pulse the transformer one of the secondary windings is shorted.  When the pulse is removed the short is also removed allowing the collapsing magnetic field to charge the cap through the bridge I have across the other secondary winding.  The transformer is a standard 120 volt primary with a tapped secondary with an output of 12-0-12.  The interesting thing is with the coil shorting technique I can pulse the primary with only 12 volts and charge the cap to over 12 volts.  There should have been only 1.2 volts going to the cap.  But pulses do strange things with transformers.  And shorting one of the secondaries does even more strange things.

 Build this circuit and try it both when shorting the secondary and without shorting the secondary.  See what you get.  You can use whatever you want to control the transistors but I have included a simple 555 timer circuit if you don't have a function generator or microprocessor to give you the pulses.


Thanks for taking that chance Carroll, that looks liken interesting lead, lets hope erfinder will comment.


Normally I would jump right in but I am working on a new rotor design for the Ward thing, so otherwise occupied.


Ron

citfta

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #606 on: September 26, 2016, 08:24:55 PM »

What aspect(s) of this do you consider to be part of what I am trying to get you (all) to see?  Can you elaborate?


Regards

I think you are trying to get us to see that we can manipulate the inductance to our advantage.  In this circuit the transformer I used has an inductance of the primary winding of 976 mh with all windings being open.  When I short the secondary winding the inductance drops to 84 mh.  So we charge the primary winding while the inductance is low and recover the energy while the inductance is high.   This causes the cap to charge to a much higher voltage than without the shorting circuit.  I have not had time to try this idea on a pulse motor but I can see how it might lead to a much more efficient motor.  Maybe even to a motor that could generate more power than needed to run the motor.

Regards,
Carroll

i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #607 on: September 26, 2016, 09:48:18 PM »
snip

Feels good seeing some trying to see what I see.

Regards


Well finally some information! Now I now what you are talking about.

Thanks erfinder ... thanks Carroll

Ron

(Incidentally the two links were the same, JB's never came through)

EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #608 on: September 26, 2016, 10:16:24 PM »

Well finally some information! Now I now what you are talking about.

Thanks erfinder ... thanks Carroll

Ron

(Incidentally the two links were the same, JB's never came through)



Hahahaha I wonder why...

Mr Agnostic, Un-Informative, through the imaginary eyes of his Own God, JB!!!

Oh it is sickening, and again, nothing new. People have been doing this for decades! We just discussed the Parametric Oscillator, 1934, image below:

But as long as we can see what he can see... then we will all be saved, because JB will be our God too!!!

Erfinder, You love yourself! As much as you love your own God, JB, and your saviour JM. Keep talking it up, sooner or later youll trip on those Big O'l Lipps...

 
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EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #610 on: September 26, 2016, 10:51:58 PM »



For those that did not see the pdf:

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EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #611 on: September 26, 2016, 10:55:59 PM »
Haha , Mandelstam/Papalexi ?
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=bifurkation+mandelstam+papalexi&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

some food for intensive re-/search


for whom https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1  is not of interest


going to citing documents
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19790215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


and from this 1. -idem-
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=5350991A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=4&date=19940927&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


who has time and patience : cited documents also listened


Exactly!!! First document: 1934 REPORT ON RECENT RESEARCH ON NONLINEAR OSCILLATIONS1

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Oh Dear, Erfinder, we can see you now!!! Clearly you have not done the homework, and know nothing of the History behind any of this!!! You Should, and then you should give credit to those that you copy from!




lancaIV

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #612 on: September 26, 2016, 11:20:16 PM »
                                                               26/09/2016
                                                       +/-              1996


                           What did you -more or less- twenty years before ,C.S. ?
                                                 (Prof.) Dr. Florian Popescu
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=florian+popescu&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


                                                   I am not in hurry !

web000x

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #613 on: September 26, 2016, 11:31:16 PM »


Hahahaha I wonder why...

Mr Agnostic, Un-Informative, through the imaginary eyes of his Own God, JB!!!

Oh it is sickening, and again, nothing new. People have been doing this for decades! We just discussed the Parametric Oscillator, 1934, image below:

But as long as we can see what he can see... then we will all be saved, because JB will be our God too!!!

Erfinder, You love yourself! As much as you love your own God, JB, and your saviour JM. Keep talking it up, sooner or later youll trip on those Big O'l Lipps...

 
   Chris Sykes
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Please stop adding this crap to the thread.  If you have technical contributions, cool, but please stop this shit.  Reading countless pages of you all arguing over nothing really is obnoxious.  It doesn't matter who did it first.  We all need to be doing it NOW.


Dave

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #614 on: September 26, 2016, 11:33:37 PM »
                                                               26/09/2016
                                                       +/-              1996


                           What did you -more or less- twenty years before ,C.S. ?
                                                 (Prof.) Dr. Florian Popescu
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=florian+popescu&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


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Vehicle battery-operated electric drive - uses parametric resonance regulated by semiconductor control to reduce energy losses

C.S.Lewis? - Not sure there - Sorry...

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