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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #585 on: September 25, 2016, 11:35:35 AM »

What I am saying is the motor coil is at the same time a generator coil.  There is only one shaft, and this case only one coil which is simultaneously motoring and generating an electrical output.


Regards


                         What I am saying is the motor coil is at the same time a generator coil.
    Hmm,complicated,really complicated : but let me give you a publicated device as an non-moving (relatively) transformer :
                                                                             coaxial
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1


In your world a coil is selfoperating ?
Assuming one wants to do things the right way, a coil which simultaneously motors and generates is the only way forward.
                                              counter-streaming,cold-/hot flow exchanger


I can wrap a hard/air core with two coils , but 1 coil(or foil do you mean ?) with permanent, the two diametral physical function,transformation is for me unknown !


Erfinder ,what has been first : chicken or egg ?

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #585 on: September 25, 2016, 11:35:35 AM »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #586 on: September 25, 2016, 11:50:12 AM »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #587 on: September 25, 2016, 11:56:45 AM »
Fine,similar ? http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=457.0;attach=2786


 8)  From my "I" to your "I"  ;)


What is about the coil material ? An-/organical ?
The coil :doted,or like a pepermint stick https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvF4bsjF3ikP9-RdKWpKxUbvP4y0F-U6r5hYjgV2n5mQ3d6CS3 ,
or bi-/multicolored toothpaste
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSY7fGefcbPc4fGNblESrj1-6OghzHBRneD17ccr6HTh1zcl7UoYKISJQTl ?
a coiled graphene bi-/multi planar array ? multi-junction


induction and induc.... function : 2 in1


Erfinder : Finder/Finder and the  Fundus and the Fundament ,Er=he Sie=she  Siefinder :) ,Pardon-moi,Sie Finder,Sie ! But it does not mean,translated : she finder ,she !
                               It has to be transducted:              You finder,You !

                                                                      Hirarchie
                                            Nomen,Names and Title and Rank/Rang
                               1.,2.,3. person singularis + X : majestatis  ma(g)ister : Mestre,Meister,Master
                               1.,2.,3. person pluralis     + X : majestatis 

Erfinder,a german expression, in angelo-saxonico,shortly "english"
co-expression, verbum: inventare to invent ,the inventor

German description about "nature creation"-reengineering https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=dna+replikation&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


                                          it will become a wi-fi device

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                                                          hard and soft
                                                            (be-)ware


             1.,2.,3.Kind         you,You,(YOU: internal conversion,sphere intimus)
                                         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPq6eGCXXP8


                 notare,remarcare : receiving,tuning,amplyfing,equalizing

So that it's clear, I have tested what I am suggesting, and am completely satisfied with the results I get with my apparatus.  I know exactly what "I" want, and build accordingly.  [/size]


I reed and noticed your points.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2016, 02:38:41 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #587 on: September 25, 2016, 11:56:45 AM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #588 on: September 25, 2016, 03:05:42 PM »

Repe(a)ting (based:repetere):So that it's clear, I have tested what I am suggesting, and am completely satisfied with the results I get with my apparatus.  I know exactly what "I" want, and build accordingly.


                                 "Clear" is your open -disclosed/discovered- statement !                                                                        Your suggest ? The multifunctional coil ? It is unclear !
                                 "...... I know ...."  Do you want to patent it,your "Erfindung" ?


"English" is neither my father nor mother language but I want to try to understand you ,by your question,comments and answers !


I do not really think  ::) that this offered information and technical method of energy harvesting and conversion is new and unused.There are worldwide sufficient genuine scientists which are working in this physics "house-appartment".
This Info has got +/- 20 years time-lag.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #589 on: September 25, 2016, 03:19:50 PM »
I hope that I do not incommodate you and this is not my intention !


What you will do is something like a "wrapped nantenna" creating , as channel ,for the RF-spectrum.
EM makes part from RF.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #589 on: September 25, 2016, 03:19:50 PM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #590 on: September 25, 2016, 03:34:45 PM »

What I am saying is the motor coil is at the same time a generator coil.  There is only one shaft, and this case only one coil which is simultaneously motoring and generating an electrical output.  Assuming one wants to do things the right way, a coil which simultaneously motors and generates is the only way forward.

Regards


Does the simultaneous generating/motoring effect that you've observed happen to have anything to do with the space angle of the rotor?  In other words, due to the inductive reactance of the coil windings, the MMF lags the actual space position (TDC, etc) of the magnets in the rotor.  If the speed of the rotor and inductive reactance of the coils high enough, theoretically the rotor could find itself positioned closer to the next pole piece in rotation while the coil on the last pole projection is still building up current due to XL.  If the next pole piece has a polarity opposite of the previous pole, the rotor would be sucked FORWARD in and ADDITIVE manor, accelerating the rotor while also generating.


Thanks


Dave

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #591 on: September 25, 2016, 03:37:47 PM »
Thank you,Erfinder, #729 (not 728; Sorry me !) ,this answer correlated the opinion about your first answer ,our correspondence related !


THz:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5&FT=D&ND=3&date=19910228&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


internal cited :  DD286012 Elektronengas-Kreislauf  Plasma-Cycle/circuit
http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2014/12/04/compact-fluorescent-fusion/
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/184899/difference-between-fusion-plasma-and-fluorescent-lamp-plasmas


But now is really enough
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Re: Lenz free generator
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #592 on: September 25, 2016, 04:06:21 PM »

No. 




I could demonstrate the exact same thing in a machine designed to be driven at TDC, and with that being said, I regret to say again...no.




Do you see where your thinking is?  It is totally entangled in the maze of the inductive reactive.  Consider what it would take to transition a predominantly inductive reactive system, into a predominantly capacitive reactive system.  The character of your apparatus must change from dominant XL or opposition to change in flux or current to dominant XC or opposition to change in voltage.


Regards


Its not totally entangled in inductive reactance.  I spoke with Eric Dollard long enough to realize the importance of its conjugate XC in all electrical systems..  My mind was there because of how Jim Murray described some of this phenomena in one of his presentations.


So this added capacitance.  In your devices, is it derived from multifilar coil configurations?  Or is it a lumped capacitance placed outside of the coil somewhere?


Thanks


Dave

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #593 on: September 25, 2016, 04:13:09 PM »

                             an old/eld motor/notor technique (2D)
http://media3.news.ch/news/fb/296740-396c983d4290901e4060ffe25e7c0eb3.jpg


                            3/4D and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolamite


                          converting to an industrial mass-produceable device

                 http://csnetwork.eu/livingmachines/conf2015/%5BLM2016%5D

                            ( photo/phono-synthese "engine" farming )


                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanism


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #594 on: September 25, 2016, 05:00:44 PM »

You think a conversation with one with knowledge on the subject will give the necessary insight for engineering that which is said to be impossible?  Especially when said individual has no interest in the direction of research that occupies the minds of all who would shower him with senseless questions if they were given the opportunity. 



Lol, no not really.  But it did give me what I feel is a pretty good BS sniffer and some good direction to follow.  I will find that for which I am looking, in time.


Dave

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #595 on: September 25, 2016, 06:03:11 PM »

Run    -  Combine XL and XC dominant circuits.

Regards


Does combining these two come about in some active form of switching in the circuit? 


Thanks

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Re: Lenz free generator
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #596 on: September 25, 2016, 08:30:17 PM »
                                http://rexresearch.com/scalarlong/scalar.html
                                http://rexresearch.com/scalarlong/kr20140011732a.jpg
                                http://rexresearch.com/scalarlong/ep2380628b.jpg
                                http://rexresearch.com/scalarlong/ep2380628c.jpg

               http://media0.news.ch/news/680/296740-396c983d4290901e4060ffe25e7c0eb3.jpg

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #597 on: September 25, 2016, 08:51:15 PM »

What I have found is one must build with the understanding that we want the exact opposite of what we consider as a resonant condition.  What I mean here is simple to understand. Resonance as we presently view it is restricted to one specific frequency.  That which is desired is a condition where resonance becomes a broad band phenomena.  All frequencies are the resonant frequency in sequence.  So, no my system is not finicky.  I just need to establish the conditions which facilitate and support the broad band phenomena.

Regards


erfinder, In all your dozens of posts, helpful hints, subject out lines, ego polishing, character assassinations... I am still completely in the dark, not even a starting point?? Can you do better??? What is it you want us to see????


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #598 on: September 25, 2016, 09:22:44 PM »

erfinder, In all your dozens of posts, helpful hints, subject out lines, ego polishing, character assassinations... I am still completely in the dark, not even a starting point?? Can you do better??? What is it you want us to see????


Ron




Hi Ron - This is GOLD!!! I love it, I could not have said it better myself ;)


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #599 on: September 25, 2016, 09:25:26 PM »

erfinder, In all your dozens of posts, helpful hints, subject out lines, ego polishing, character assassinations... I am still completely in the dark, not even a starting point?? Can you do better??? What is it you want us to see? ???


Ron

http://media0.news.ch/news/680/296740-396c983d4290901e4060ffe25e7c0eb3.jpg mikro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ4jMSCBswY 4dimensional alive            human-makro
resonance measurement http://rexresearch.com/scalarlong/ep2380628b.jpg
and homogenity

left side    a.b. girl/s    left hand : cw or ccw ? right  hand: ccw or cw
right side a.b. girl/s    left hand : cw or ccw ?  right hand : ccw or cw ?


who is asked and has to give the answer ? The left side girl,the right side girl  or I and where am I ?
    Are we fixed or moving position ? They or I(like the camera-man/wife?) We all ?
                                       
This video translating in a virtual -trickfilm like- 4D movie -shows if we understand movement and this in ECHTZEIT/REALTIME sequenz.This are programmer doing !

                                            view aspect for the correct answer


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to webby1 he gave clearly his fixpoint of his re-/search result:


Real system capacitance is the rate at which current or flux in this case changes with respect to time divided by voltage.


excluded as "Essential" from #737
.........
Real system capacitance isn't proximity between wires.
Real system capacitance isn't lumped values applied to the circuit.
Real system capacitance is the rate at which current or flux in this case changes with respect to time divided by voltage.
 The aforereferenced are secondary!
  We must identify and utilize the "real" circuit capacity, and use the secondary as required for streamlining tuning. ....... Citation End.


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