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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #480 on: September 18, 2016, 01:00:27 PM »

That is what you are a master at.....showing other people's work, and standing in the light they shine like the spotlight was turned on for you.  Instead of boasting like you've done something, and or are doing something, how about you actually do something.  Build something, show it off, something other than that circuit you claim is doing more than we know it's actually doing.




The answer is Clown!!!

Your Day Job, the only thing youre good at, is being a Clown!!!

You show no work, but brag about others work, with no understanding of it, so I am a step ahead of you there also.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #480 on: September 18, 2016, 01:00:27 PM »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #481 on: September 18, 2016, 01:14:26 PM »

If you say so....


I'll hold my breath while waiting for you to demonstrate something practical with all that "information" (we can get off google ourselves) you shower us with.




Hahaha - How long can someone hold their breath? 6 Minutes before Brain Death occurs?

Hahahaha - We shouldn’t joke about such things especially under these circumstances, almost certain history of Brain Death...

Hahaha - Oh dear there I go again, sorry... is that considered malicious, or just plain Funny???


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #482 on: September 18, 2016, 01:49:47 PM »
Hahaha - How long can someone hold their breath? 6 Minutes before Brain Death occurs?
snip...
LOL. Sorry, but If you were drinking with me at a pub and I bet you I could hold my breath for 10 minutes, no problem, you'd lose
if you took the bet.
You see, I'd just drink what's left in my glass, take a deep breath, hold the glass to my mouth and exhale my
breath into it, then slide my hand over the top of the glass and hold it for the next ten minutes.
I didn't say how I'd hold my breath, only that I'd hold it!
LOL - Cheers

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #482 on: September 18, 2016, 01:49:47 PM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #483 on: September 18, 2016, 01:56:48 PM »
LOL. Sorry, but If you were drinking with me at a pub and I bet you I could hold my breath for 10 minutes, no problem, you'd lose
if you took the bet.
You see, I'd just drink what's left in my glass, take a deep breath, hold the glass to my mouth and exhale my
breath into it, then slide my hand over the top of the glass and hold it for the next ten minutes.
I didn't say how I'd hold my breath, only that I'd hold it!
LOL - Cheers

Only the glass is holding your breath,and you are holding the glass  :D


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #484 on: September 18, 2016, 02:07:14 PM »
Only the glass is holding your breath,and you are holding the glass  :D
Brad
LOL. Yep. And in my local pub's patron rules that'd be enough reason for another round of drinks. Paid for by the one with least support from everyone else at the bar. LOL

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #484 on: September 18, 2016, 02:07:14 PM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #485 on: September 18, 2016, 05:25:57 PM »



Barbosi... what an interesting handle. Google translates best guess is that it is Romanian for "bearded"


In english bearded can mean "hidden", are you using it in this context? very clever!


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #486 on: September 18, 2016, 07:47:10 PM »
Yeah google does a poor job for a number of known languages: celtic, kannada, cree, manding, not to mention sanskrit.

What I find fascinating is "if we can decrease (with a magnet as an example) the inductance of a coil, where does that inductance go?" (Google cannot deliver an answer to that either and yet, they boast about driverless cars).

It's like a fat dude does some physical exercises and lose some weight. Where all that weight goes?

Like a fat magnetic field collapses, where does it goes?

The conservation law formulated for a layman says: nothing is lost, nothing is gained, all is transformed.

So if we lose inductance, then the said inductance is transformed in what?
When a current flows into an inductance, it generates magnetic field and the said inductance is immersed in its own magnetic field. Hence, the value of inductance has a lower value.

With this "paradox" in mind, one cannot refrain to ask the question: " A transformer... what it transforms?" It is not just semantics, people of the past used words with great care so the true workings of an idea are not lost.

An example of lost meaning we have today in the word "capacitor" as opposed to "condenser" as it was used in the past. As one can understand that a pulley is something used to pull, it will be confused when it uses capacitor. It capacitates what? While a condenser... We all know what a condenser does in the workings of a fridge. Can be same principle valid in electric circuits?

Tesla showed in his pancake coil that a regular coil posses a "capacitance" which is greatly revealed in the coil that makes the subject of his invention. Nowadays we all know that wire, a pair of wires, even a metal sphere have a capacitance, they teach us formulas for those too.

Back to the transformer, is it possible that the changing magnetic field is transformed into something else using a "condensation" method?
If that is true, the so called mutual induction mentioned earlier by AC can be "confused" as a capacitive transfer of energy. Can anyone truly say the difference?

Regards

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« Reply #486 on: September 18, 2016, 07:47:10 PM »
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #487 on: September 18, 2016, 09:50:46 PM »

Like a fat magnetic field collapses, where does it go?

Regards


Could it be that it goes back to the fourth dimension, from whence it came?


Ron
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #488 on: September 18, 2016, 10:26:16 PM »
Yeah google does a poor job for a number of known languages: celtic, kannada, cree, manding, not to mention sanskrit.

What I find fascinating is "if we can decrease (with a magnet as an example) the inductance of a coil, where does that inductance go?" (Google cannot deliver an answer to that either and yet, they boast about driverless cars).

It's like a fat dude does some physical exercises and lose some weight. Where all that weight goes?

Like a fat magnetic field collapses, where does it goes?

The conservation law formulated for a layman says: nothing is lost, nothing is gained, all is transformed.

So if we lose inductance, then the said inductance is transformed in what?
When a current flows into an inductance, it generates magnetic field and the said inductance is immersed in its own magnetic field. Hence, the value of inductance has a lower value.

With this "paradox" in mind, one cannot refrain to ask the question: " A transformer... what it transforms?" It is not just semantics, people of the past used words with great care so the true workings of an idea are not lost.

An example of lost meaning we have today in the word "capacitor" as opposed to "condenser" as it was used in the past. As one can understand that a pulley is something used to pull, it will be confused when it uses capacitor. It capacitates what? While a condenser... We all know what a condenser does in the workings of a fridge. Can be same principle valid in electric circuits?

Tesla showed in his pancake coil that a regular coil posses a "capacitance" which is greatly revealed in the coil that makes the subject of his invention. Nowadays we all know that wire, a pair of wires, even a metal sphere have a capacitance, they teach us formulas for those too.

Back to the transformer, is it possible that the changing magnetic field is transformed into something else using a "condensation" method?
If that is true, the so called mutual induction mentioned earlier by AC can be "confused" as a capacitive transfer of energy. Can anyone truly say the difference?

Regards




WHAT!!!

Inductance is not like a Bag of Sugar Erfinder! What a complete bunch or Verbal Rubbish!!!

Take an Inductance Meter, connect to a scope, look at the signal, what do you see?

Mine is  239.7Hz @ 35% Duty Cycle

Why? What’s the Signal DOING? What are we Measuring when we measure Inductance?

Does: "To Induce the potential for Charged Particles to Flow" make any sense?

A Coils Inductance is simply a "Value" - A "Value" indicating the Potential for Induced Current, which is a Charged Particle Flow. What does Charged Particle Flow Constitute? Yes a Magnetic Field!

You Have a LONG WAY to go before an understanding of these concepts are available to you Erfinder!


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #488 on: September 18, 2016, 10:26:16 PM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #489 on: September 18, 2016, 11:02:02 PM »


Ampere Turns (AT) = Turns (N) x Current (I) and Magnetomotive Force (MMF) = Turns (N) x Current (I) - As you can see the formula is the same. Ampere Turns is in Units of MMF.

In a Coil of Wire, with Turns (N) carrying Current (I) where the Current is Uniform and all moving in the same direction, what do you think the result would be? What would the effects of this Force be?

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #490 on: September 18, 2016, 11:31:46 PM »

Ampere Turns (AT) = Turns (N) x Current (I) and Magnetomotive Force (MMF) = Turns (N) x Current (I) - As you can see the formula is the same. Ampere Turns is in Units of MMF.

In a Coil of Wire, with Turns (N) carrying Current (I) where the Current is Uniform and all moving in the same direction, what do you think the result would be? What would the effects of this Force be?

   Chris Sykes
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Oh, that's fine and dandy but those formulas do not explain where magnetic field goes when it collapses, does it?

This guy explains it with same usefulness what you did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUh29nkLwao

Nice try, but I'm not convinced.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #491 on: September 19, 2016, 01:07:12 AM »

where magnetic field goes when it collapses,


Rocket science  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3gjlskQOJ4


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #492 on: September 19, 2016, 01:51:45 AM »
Rocket science  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3gjlskQOJ4


Brad

Funny, but no!

It's in the damn elementary books on electricity, you gonna feel silly when you'll see it, all have seen the picture.

It's about 2 fields in quadrature relationship...

Nothing yet? the junkie guy is not so junky if his ignores it...

No, nothing? What a hell, here is a picture:
http://helios.augustana.edu/~dr/102/img/17_07.jpg

And this is a third time I am helping you and so far I didn't get any thank you, but rather insults.

Regards.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #493 on: September 19, 2016, 03:16:47 AM »
Funny, but no!

It's in the damn elementary books on electricity, you gonna feel silly when you'll see it, all have seen the picture.

It's about 2 fields in quadrature relationship...

Nothing yet? the junkie guy is not so junky if his ignores it...

No, nothing? What a hell, here is a picture:
http://helios.augustana.edu/~dr/102/img/17_07.jpg

And this is a third time I am helping you and so far I didn't get any thank you, but rather insults.

Regards.



BarBozo - You are completely wrong!!!

Technically the image you show is wrong also.

Why?

Static Charges have no Net Magnetic Field associated with them!!! Static Dipole is also subject to the same criteria! This is why you’re wrong and don’t know the difference between the two!!!

You move the Charge, and now it is no longer static, then a Magnetic Field is associated with the Moving Charge!!!

Your Image should include a relative Velocity associated with the Charges and then it is Valid to have an associated Magnetic Field. So, Basic Text Book Concepts have fooled you into a situation where the hole you now sit in has no ladder out!!!


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Offline barbosi

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #494 on: September 19, 2016, 04:15:36 AM »


BarBozo - You are completely wrong!!!

Technically the image you show is wrong also.

Why?

Static Charges have no Net Magnetic Field associated with them!!! Static Dipole is also subject to the same criteria! This is why you’re wrong and don’t know the difference between the two!!!

You move the Charge, and now it is no longer static, then a Magnetic Field is associated with the Moving Charge!!!

Your Image should include a relative Velocity associated with the Charges and then it is Valid to have an associated Magnetic Field. So, Basic Text Book Concepts have fooled you into a situation where the hole you now sit in has no ladder out!!!


   Chris Sykes
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That's your skewed view on electricity. You learned electrostatics has nothing to do with electrodynamics and you swallowed that shit till the brains were squeezed out through the scalp pores. Then you combed. Damn!

But if you can make an intellectual exercise, replace those "charges" with wires?  Can you feel the familiar domain of electrodynamics, or really you want a picture from the beginning of the 20-th century? Do you recognize the fields now?
Now a quiz for you, science parrot: please identify by the color the fields and name them! I don't mean to be disrespectful about eventual physical abilities, but if you are color blind, let me know and I'll look for other picture in different shades. Internet is full of them I don't know how you could miss them. with wires too, not only electric charges.

As per the electrostatics, I prefer the works of the Master, and I attach a picture he used in his electrostatic experiments. Please enjoy the full description directly from the reading material, as you will find him completely describing his transformer. Please don't tell me that it has nothing to do with your prostitution you call partnered coils. I do this here because I don't feel spreading my but chicks over that topic too.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Tesla-DisruptiveDischargeBox.png

Don't forget the quiz, truly yours,
barbosi


PS: about electrostatics the way you still need to learn, here is a link, scroll down to "Electric Force Example".
What is the force that can be obtained with 120W? 1.01 Million Tons!!!
In your face. And don't tell anything about not being electrostatics, go in top of the page again and read "Coulomb's Law". Made by some scientists from... read the web address.
And Tesla did not lie. It's only our sorry a$$es incapable to put together the concepts he left us.

Now slap yourself and quit drinking! You are not helping, your are confusing people!

Next !!!!!

 

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