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Author Topic: Lenz free generator  (Read 570556 times)

i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #285 on: September 05, 2016, 12:34:17 AM »


Hi Ron -

A device I learnt a lot from is the Ward Force Generator -
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Great post Chris, thanks for the heads up... does this answer my questions about Dave's OU generator???


Ron

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Steve,Thanks for everything you have shared with us so far, but honestly, I have read through everything on your site, watched the videos, and I doubt that I could successfully replicate your device.[/size]If you really want people to replicate you need to give us some specifics. What are the part numbers of the things we should get so that we make an exact replication? I'd be on my way to the store in a heartbeat if I thought I could actually find what I need, but right now I doubt I could.If you have the time, it would help if you put together a step by step video. You have showed us parts, but when you say that this piece of plastic goes here, I need to know the dimensions of that piece of plastic if I am to replicate. Also I don't see any kind of wiring schematic. I hope it is not just me who is having this problem or I am REALLY going to feel like an idiot!UPDATE:I sent Steve an e-mail and he was kind enough to respond by calling me. We spoke for quite some time, and now I understand exactly how to build the switch. Thanks Steve, for all the help!! It may take me a couple days to come up with parts, but then I will be replicating this.


erfinder,I looked at the patent you posted and at Thaine's videos, and I would have to agree that all three of these devices are very similar in concept. All three eliminate the movement of the magnet past the coil, so that Lenz is defeated, yet allow for the change in magnetic field to harvest energy from the coil. This is all very interesting. Don't know where it will lead, but there is enough information from these sources that some of us should be building some things and reporting back. I will do a step by step video of my build of Steve's device and post on YouTube. After that, will try and duplicate what we saw in Thane's video.
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #286 on: September 05, 2016, 01:17:09 AM »

There was no questioning me you stupid piece of shit, my attitude was being addressed, and I responded in kind.  Learn to read dick.



No you dumb fuck, you didn't show me I was mistaken, what you are doing is dragging someone's name through the mud to make yourself look good, and say that my supporting that that individual is wrong.  You see only what you want to see, and like I told you before, you're in a bad position there, as you are blind in one eye and cannot see out the the other.  You have no idea what this is about, but really enjoy thinking you do.  Keep thinking you do.


You can't read nor write (true color that flaming shit bag), and from that position alone, you aren't qualified to point anyone in any direction (that's the difference between you and I fucker, I am making suggestions, voicing an opinion, you are stating facts, facts as you see them, facts which aren't needed when thinking abstractly.  You bitch twins fear thinking without bounds.  A good off the wall exchange cannot take place because you idiots rush in with your anal probes, talk of proper scope insertion techniques, and strict adherence to laws that you claim to get but don't.  If you got the damn laws, you wouldn't be here in the peanut gallery show boating.  Dumb ass.  It seems many like your brand of shit, their business, you know the truth though, you are a catastrophic fail.  Like I said bitch boy,  you have yet to present an anything original, and never will.  Your best has been to demonstrate that you know how to amplify the effect that lenz has on your system, and you praise yourself for this, what a dirty douchebag you are!




I care as much about you disagreeing as you care about me calling you names.  What you see in Jim's work means shit to me.  Let people look for themselves at the work, and not at your piss poor interpretation of the mans work.  It's fascinating how you make this all about Jim.  You really are a piece of shit abomination fabricator.


Only your illiterate ass could state such and maintain a straight face....




I could but we both know it would be a complete waste of time.  Fishing for that challenge...you are a real son of a bitch. 
You have no idea what you are looking for nor at.  It's not wise to agree with anything that anyone has written, including those whose cocks you suck, but you knew that?



I'm loving this, you really think you know, you really are a dumb shit.  The point, my point in not using a measuring technique is simple, read and comprehend dumb ass, what I am after MUST BE self evident, either it does more or it doesnt, period, you don't need a meter to gauge whether it's doing more or not, this isn't about nickeling and diming.  There are hundreds of pages wasted in debate on measuring techniques, I want no parts of that, but you assholes do, and force ALL to play that sick fucking game with you, I'm not playing that game. 



Yeah yeah yeah.....challenge him.  See where that will get you.  You haven't built shit worthy of anyone's attention.  Like I said, you amplify Lenz and think you're doing something special. You are an idiot.


Folk can voice their opinion of me, I don't mind, if they get stupid, I will give them what I give you.  I enjoy our little exchanges.

A delightful post--thanks for sharing  :D


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #287 on: September 05, 2016, 01:18:08 AM »



Hi Ron - David Squires did not ever show an OU Generator/Motor - The motor sold to everyone on the DVD was nothing more than an expensive heavy Steel Laminate Brick with only average Torque.

The David Squires Motor I showed above, was not OU!!!

The Ward Force Generator is a great learning Tool. All that needs to be done is Spin the Magnet in the middle of the Magnetic Base Dial Indicator.

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i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #288 on: September 05, 2016, 02:34:55 AM »


Hi Ron -snip

The Ward Force Generator is a great learning Tool. All that needs to be done is Spin the Magnet in the middle of the Magnetic Base Dial Indicator.

   Chris Sykes
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I may have missed this experiment, (not just the mag base one) do you know of any good builds on this?


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #289 on: September 05, 2016, 03:05:11 AM »
yet... good to see the forum functioning again.


Ron

I have to disagree.

It's like one wants to go into the forest and be close to the nature, and the natural sounds are overpowered by neighboring drunkards celebrating Bacchus and telling silly stories about personal achievements in the field of wine tasting.
Their only goal is to get as many budy-budies as possible into their party and to enhance their status quo.
Ask them one simple question: what do they hope to achieve with that attitude? what is the benefit, what do they gain by being an attacking pack? What do they want?

Regards.

PS For the record FEMM does not deal with the twist of the magnetic field (I checked) simply because that information is not a factor in the software design.

tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #290 on: September 05, 2016, 04:40:41 AM »


Hi Ron - A very good friend of mine invested many thousands of dollars and a lot of time in the Squires Device.

The Murakami Army will have you believe that a Bar of Soap is OU, I say you really need to be wary of Aaron and Soap!!!

It does suffer from Lenz's the same as a normal motor. I really should not post any pictures as they are not mine to post, but:

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With all that laminated steel,it would suffer badly from the lenz effect,but hidden within the core it self-the same way the dynaflux generator dose-as we have seen.

Even the copper wire it self will have induced eddy currents-even when the coil is open.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #291 on: September 05, 2016, 04:41:34 AM »

I may have missed this experiment, (not just the mag base one) do you know of any good builds on this?


Ron



Hi Ron,

Steve's WebSite: http://www.energy-ingenuity.com/

Steve's Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1er-mkQ13ak

Very simple, very cheap and a very effective device to learn from.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #292 on: September 05, 2016, 04:59:57 AM »
With all that laminated steel,it would suffer badly from the lenz effect,but hidden within the core it self-the same way the dynaflux generator dose-as we have seen.

Even the copper wire it self will have induced eddy currents-even when the coil is open.


Brad



Hey Brad - Yes, as we know, its what one does with Lenz Law Effects... The Motor was supposed to be OU on Torque, thus the Torque Converter, or Dynamic Torque Sensor, on the back end. It wasnt.

While on this, any moving Magnetic Field, everytime we see a Change in the proximity to a Coil, if the Coil has a Load or the likes of, Lenz's Law is invoked. There is no getting around this, its what we do with Lenz's Law is the Key.


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tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #293 on: September 05, 2016, 07:22:14 AM »


Hey Brad - Yes, as we know, its what one does with Lenz Law Effects... The Motor was supposed to be OU on Torque, thus the Torque Converter, or Dynamic Torque Sensor, on the back end. It wasnt.

While on this, any moving Magnetic Field, everytime we see a Change in the proximity to a Coil, if the Coil has a Load or the likes of, Lenz's Law is invoked. There is no getting around this, its what we do with Lenz's Law is the Key.


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The answer is to create an equal and opposite MMF-being the result of a self induced counter reaction.
When you face two PM like poles together,the resultant field is not twice the field strength of a single magnet alone,but 3x the field strength of 1 of those PMs.

When two coils buck (partnered output coils),the obtained field strength/force equates to 3x the magnetic energy-not just double the field/force from a single coil alone,supplied with the same amount of energy.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #294 on: September 05, 2016, 08:09:02 AM »
The answer is to create an equal and opposite MMF-being the result of a self induced counter reaction.
When you face two PM like poles together,the resultant field is not twice the field strength of a single magnet alone,but 3x the field strength of 1 of those PMs.

When two coils buck (partnered output coils),the obtained field strength/force equates to 3x the magnetic energy-not just double the field/force from a single coil alone,supplied with the same amount of energy.


Brad



Now I think that’s just beautiful!!! Extraordinary, simplicity, if I didn’t know better, I would say this is magic!

Most certainly it’s not Magic, it's simple, already known Science that has a few minor extensions to well-known Concepts.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #295 on: September 05, 2016, 09:24:20 AM »


Hi Ron - A very good friend of mine invested many thousands of dollars and a lot of time in the Squires Device.

The Murakami Army will have you believe that a Bar of Soap is OU, I say you really need to be wary of Aaron and Soap!!!

It does suffer from Lenz's the same as a normal motor. I really should not post any pictures as they are not mine to post, but:

   Chris Sykes
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Chris
I dont know about how it would perform as a motor,but i think it would make a very powerful generator.

I believe we have a means of a simple version,using two of the same shaded pole motors,and replacing the rotor with a diametrically magnetized magnet.
Perhaps most of the CEMF would remain within the core loop,and each coil would buck the other?.

I think i may have two identical shaded pole motors to carry out the build.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #296 on: September 05, 2016, 09:54:22 AM »


Hi Ron - A very good friend of mine invested many thousands of dollars and a lot of time in the Squires Device.

The Murakami Army will have you believe that a Bar of Soap is OU, I say you really need to be wary of Aaron and Soap!!!

It does suffer from Lenz's the same as a normal motor. I really should not post any pictures as they are not mine to post, but:

   Chris Sykes
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Well,turns out i did have two identical shaded pole motors for the experiment.
All i have to do now,is cut through each core,through the middle of the bearing carrier holes.and tig them together. We then have something similar to the one you pictured--but at a budget cost. ;)


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #297 on: September 05, 2016, 10:13:22 AM »
Well,turns out i did have two identical shaded pole motors for the experiment.
All i have to do now,is cut through each core,through the middle of the bearing carrier holes.and tig them together. We then have something similar to the one you pictured--but at a budget cost. ;)


Brad



Brad, the center of the device, the Ward Force Generator, is a Magnetic Base Dial Indicator.

The Magnetic Base Dial Indicator, has a Core, Magnet and also some extrusions that are important. Let me do some pics and post, give me a few hours.

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P.S: The Red is a non Magnetic, Alloy housing. The Magnetic Base Dial Indicator is made from two parts, it has the Magnet on the inside.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #298 on: September 05, 2016, 10:22:51 AM »
Hi Brad, when you cut through the laminates won't that ruin their function? Since they are insulated from each other.
Just asking. artv

tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #299 on: September 05, 2016, 11:10:01 AM »


Brad, the center of the device, the Ward Force Generator, is a Magnetic Base Dial Indicator.

The Magnetic Base Dial Indicator, has a Core, Magnet and also some extrusions that are important. Let me do some pics and post, give me a few hours.

   Chris Sykes
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P.S: The Red is a non Magnetic, Alloy housing. The Magnetic Base Dial Indicator is made from two parts, it has the Magnet on the inside.


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Yes,yes--i know exactly how they work.

I was thinking more along the lines of a generator.
In this case,we basically have a bucking field toroid generator.

Now,suppose when we draw a load from each coil,we use a switched connection from the coil to the load--like a mosfet switch on each. We then have a circuit that enables us to close each mosfet independent from each other,and at what ever frequency we decide on.
What would we produce if say the switching frequency of one coil was 100Hz,and the other was say 130Hz. What happens when we have two magnetic circuits,in the same toroid core,being loaded at different frequencies,when the inducing field has a fixed frequency ?.

So,we will chop one AC wave produced by one coil at 100Hz,and we will chop the other AC wave produced by the other coil at 130Hz-and we get what?.

Core done.


Brad