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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #240 on: September 03, 2016, 07:12:20 AM »
We only have to answer the question : would the beat frequency when used as a source for tank circuit , affect the original place where it was created ? Or : if the mix of frequencies produce other frequency and that frequency is used to pump LC circuit how this would load the original source ?



Yes - Both Constructive and Destructive!

There become's a point where this is no longer seen as a "Beat Frequency" - When the Frequencies no longer differ because of the timing.

Thus a timing sensitive component in these systems. After all, what is a Standing Wave... either way we can see: Constructive and Destructive Interference...

It’s worth looking into Noise Cancelation, or some Videos I have posted of others experiments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEevfOU4Z8

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Re: Lenz free generator
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« Reply #241 on: September 03, 2016, 10:43:46 AM »
Find a means for generating a beat frequency, and see for yourself how stupid the wannabe authorities sound when they say shit like, "yeah....constructive and destructive...."  He hasn't built anything in this direction, I have.  I'm not asking you to take my word for it nor join a team.  Find the simplest means for generating a beat, and LOAD THE DAMN THING, see for yourself.  Recognize the relation between the inducing has to the induced, there is no negative back coupling.  Note the output, get mad, cause its low, comprehend why, study and recognize what is necessary to lift it back to "desired" levels. 


They are beginning to talk major crap now, introducing things like nodes and antinodes...suggesting that folks learn what these things are.  I have, and use them, haven't seen them operating at this level yet, and it's doubtful that I ever will.




Regards



A nest of contradictions in the one drively piffle of Fairy Tale Science!!! Even an outright Lie in there!!!

"take my word for it" is the ONLY thing you offer others!!! Non existant Documentation, Bad Videos, Fairy Tales Science... Erfinder youre a classic exmple of how NOT to do it!!!

Hey Tinker Bell, have you any idea what you just wrote?

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #242 on: September 03, 2016, 10:58:40 AM »



Can someone explain this to Erfinder? I can no longer speak Clown!!!

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #242 on: September 03, 2016, 10:58:40 AM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #243 on: September 03, 2016, 11:05:46 AM »



@Brad - In terms of Constructive/Destructive Interference, in what order would you put these terms, of course we know there should always be three.

Shall we put some minds into overdrive tonight and get them thinking why how and in what order?

I can put dollars down on which horse will finish this race last!!!

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #244 on: September 03, 2016, 11:38:00 AM »


@Brad - In terms of Constructive/Destructive Interference, in what order would you put these terms, of course we know there should always be three.

Shall we put some minds into overdrive tonight and get them thinking why how and in what order?

I can put dollars down on which horse will finish this race last!!!

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You have to laugh Chris

Those that laughed at you,now use your terms of propagation  :D
Action-reaction-counter reaction--->beat frequency

You will notice once again,that Erfinder avoided the results of Jim !tha man! Murray's dynaflux generator  ::).
Guess he didnt think anyone would notice the trickery going on there.

All well and good to call some one elses work an abomination,when the man he thinks is !tha man!,has the worst ever generator in history.

But he cant get out of this one,as the proof is in !tha man's! own video lol.
Maybe people will take a step back now,and see who really is in lala land.


Brad

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Offline tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #245 on: September 03, 2016, 12:42:54 PM »

 You cannot and will not lead anyone to anything practical, let alone useful.

And you can?
Jim !tha man! Murray's dynaflux generator perhaps?

P/in=556.34 watts
P/out to load=40.09 watts
Efficiency=7.2%  :D

He da man  ;)

As i said,you insult others and there work,and yet you present the worst generator ever made as being the path to the future.


Brad




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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #246 on: September 03, 2016, 03:47:59 PM »

I just say what others won't about yours and the resident plagiarist, copy paste junkie.

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Your work is and will forever remain an abomination,

And still smoke anything you have ever done.

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and you are one to talk, all you do is insult "others" work, hypocrite.


Such as who?--Murray,Bedini,Arron the rookie?--the garbage you promote ?.

You stated that Murray would run rings around me,so where are the rings?

Now,that dynaflux generator you love so much,from the man you admire so much--now that is an abomination  ;)

In fact Erfinder,after all these years of your fairy dust engineering,you have not presented one device from any of your guru's,that is even close to being anywhere near as efficient as the RT,and that is a fact. You dislike me because you know i see through the bullshit-such as Jim !tha man! Murray's dynaflux generator. I bet you didnt even bother taking any notice at all at what the efficiency actually was,but more so just followed a blind path behind !tha man! that said he had a winner. Now you try and drag others into your trip up the garden path,and you dont give a rats ass who you tread on while on your journey to no where.

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The ignore function works, just wanted to share that in case anyone felt the need to use it, I just added two individuals.  Felt good.....

Even your ignore function efficiency is well below standards.
Hopefully there are those that did not place me on !ignore!,and look at the data i supplied on Jim !the man! Murray's dynaflux generator,and can now see just how inefficient it actually is--and this is the type of garbage you are telling people here that they should pay attention to--while calling my RT and L.A.G an abomination lol.

Then came the !beat frequency! saga-->because Jim !tha man! said so   ;D


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Re: Lenz free generator
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #247 on: September 03, 2016, 05:14:55 PM »
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Hi Ron

It's not about taking side's.
The existence of this forum is built on searching for truth's,and weeding out the rubbish from the roses. It is about presenting fact's,and removing fictions,and we do a good job most of the time-->but some times the weeds just keep coming back.
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I will give you an example of fact and fiction--Jim Murray's dynaflux generator.

Brad


Thanks Brad, well thought out experiment, I had missed that but see the connection now to the "dynaflux".


I am working on a Bob Teal rep at the moment, having foolishly sent $7 US to the "army", that was funny!


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #248 on: September 03, 2016, 05:25:46 PM »
@Erfinder
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The relation of the added beats is such that it causes the isolated envelope to transition from a standing to traveling wave.  Now you have a wave packet which bounces between impedances, a less than ideal set of circumstances (a situation which demands one's attention prior to trying to apply this for practical use) for the packet of energy you have worked hard at isolating and mobilizing.


While I do not believe two oscillators producing a beat frequency can show a gain I do think it has the potential to do some interesting things. Things which we cannot do any other way due to the nature of the process.


For instance if we have two oscillators producing a standing wave function and a third element within the standing wave dissipates a given amount of energy periodically then the energy transfer is towards the standing wave center. The two oscillators lose energy and the third element gains the energy lost from the two oscillators which it dissipates and energy is conserved.


Energy is conserved, however if the two oscillators are driven by the loss in energy in the system acting inward towards a third element which reinforces the standing wave this is considered work. The third element which gained energy from the system and dissipated it in another form also causing an inward acting force is also considered work. Therefore it may be possible to perform two work functions while still conserving energy under the correct conditions. It would be similar to removing a section of the standing wave and having the standing wave rush in to fill the void so long as section removed ceases to exist in it's original form.


Of course this is simply speculation and it raises many questions concerning the nature of energy as it relates to the work performed within a system. Can a loss of energy produce a gain in work just as a gain in energy produces a gain in work?. If it can then there may be the possibility of two work functions.


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Re: Lenz free generator
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #249 on: September 03, 2016, 05:54:39 PM »

Thanks Brad, well thought out experiment, I had missed that but see the connection now to the "dynaflux".


I am working on a Bob Teal rep at the moment, having foolishly sent $7 US to the "army", that was funny!


Ron

Indeed Ron lol.

Bob Teals motor operation description .

The Magnipulsion Engine produced large amounts of mechanical energy while running on short pulses of DC current delivered to its electro-magnetic coils. In addition, when the power coils were turned off, the circuitry could also recapture most of this input electricity from the collapsing magnetic fields to be used again.

Now how dose Bedini's SSG work again?  ;D--,which by the way ,was actually designed and patented by Roger Andrews in 1974,and is not Bedini's work at all.

When you spend the time weeding through all the garbage,and doing some research,you begin to see who is on the money,and who is full of crap.

Below is a picture of one of Bob's early motors,and a picture of an !advanced! Bedini pulse motor.

Really makes you wonder some time's how these people get away with this sort of thing.
Seems advanced Bedini is only 44 years behind  :D

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #250 on: September 03, 2016, 06:20:07 PM »
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I dislike you because you are a wannabe know it all hypocrite, jackass, douchebag, drama queen.  I will continue to voice my opinion that thinking individuals should ignore your abominations, specifically your pride and joys, the two lousy pieces of shit,

Lol,come on Erfinder,you can do better than that.
Your insults are some what like Jim's dynaflux--very low grade.

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and pay closer attention to that which "you" say they should stay away from!  Every pulsed and commutated motor on the planet is a rotary transformer, you ignorant, arrogant, illiterate fucked ass
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Ah,now your true colors are shining through  ;)

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Funny thing is most of what you have you copied and pasted.....and got it wrong...You bash JB but still got his  in your mouth, you can't seem to get away from his circuit....now that's funny...and pathetic,

Whats actually funny and pathetic,is that you think that circuit is JBs lol.-->see previous post of mine.

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so is my language, but I don't care.  You see through the bull shit....please, your're blind in one eye and can't see out the other....you're blind without your meters...What a fucking joke, and call yourself, and expect your groupies to worship you as an authority on someone else's work?!?   "It's not a fucking numbers game, it is for you, and as such you miss everything, and drag all who worship you down the fucking drain....this is a waste of time, you are a waste of time.


My vision is quite fine thanks--good enough to see the actual efficiency of Jim !tha man! Murrays generator,from numbers provided by Jim !tha man! him self.

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Oh and before I forget, for the record bitch (yeah I called you a bitch), I was talking about beat frequencies long before Murray went public, and also demonstrating the same, I don't share such with assclowns.

Oh,so your responsible for Jim !tha man! Murray's poor excuse for a generator.

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Once these things start...nothing gets done, well I get work done.  I love imagining you getting all heated, right now I see you as a chicken in a tinman getup, with its feathers all ruffled and rustled up.....

Lol
You just dont have what it takes to ruffle my feathers Erfinder--your not even close.
In fact,i am actually having a good laugh ATM,reading your reply.
It is clear by your foul language,that you are the one getting all hot and sweaty under the collar,because i cooked you on Jim !tha man! Murray's generator being some sort of fantastic device,when it is nothing more than a heater.

Your having a bad week on this thread Erfinder.

I put an end to your fairy tail about Jim !tha man! Murray's generator being anything special.
Myself and Ron have shown you that Bedini's SSG design ,is not actually his design at all.
And your beat frequency saga being anything special,is really nothing at all,as you have been working with it for years,and still have nothing great to show  :D

To quote your self
Everything that followed where you should have stopped, shows you are clueless as to what's going on

Anyway,you have your self a good day Erfinder.
Oh,and do try to keep the language down,as young children read these forum threads from time to time. It is also against forum rules to use language like that  ;)


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Re: Lenz free generator
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #251 on: September 03, 2016, 06:32:30 PM »

Curious.......I don't recall mentioning gain....I do recall saying that the aforementioned was my ideal inducer (speculation, no....I don't think so).  Thought this thread was about getting around the negative effects associated with Lenz......  Maybe this method leaves one with the impression that I am into strong narcotics.......What in the hell happened to this place.

And that is exactly what we are doing.
Before that can be done,we all must understand places where Lenz can hide.
I showed a good example of that in Jim !tha man! Murray's dynaflux generator.
You presented Jims work as being advanced in this area,and i showed that it is in actual fact,way behind in this area. In Jims dynaflux generator,Lenz hides within produced eddy currents,proven using Jims own numbers in his video.

You (like Jim) thought that the load(two bulbs) placed on the generator,placed no load on the prime mover,when in fact,the prime mover was heavily loaded before a load was even pulled from the generator.

These are the tricks people here can learn to watch for,and also shows where !Lenz! can be hiding.

The only reason you think this thread is not on track,is because it is not going the way you want it to go--that being,your way.

But hang in there Erfinder,you might just learn a thing or two,from the guys that build abominations  ;)


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #252 on: September 03, 2016, 06:39:13 PM »

Fuck you and the forum rules  sucker.  I know exactly what I'm doing.....

So dose Jim !tha man! Murray--right?

P/in=556.34 watts
P/out to load=40.09 watts
Efficiency=7.2%
Waste heat energy=516.25 watts

He tha man  ;D

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #253 on: September 03, 2016, 06:44:14 PM »

Thanks Brad, well thought out experiment, I had missed that but see the connection now to the "dynaflux".


I am working on a Bob Teal rep at the moment, having foolishly sent $7 US to the "army", that was funny!


Ron

Ron
Do you have a schematic for the circuit you are using in your Teal replication.
And which one of his designs are you replicating ?


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #254 on: September 03, 2016, 07:08:32 PM »

You are an illiterate dip shit....I wasn't talking to you, and no, nothing can nor will be learned from your sorry ass....

Your ignore function is very inefficient Erfinder.
But fits well into your other functions.


Brad

 

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