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Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #195 on: August 30, 2016, 05:34:39 PM »

Yes, Erfinder is miles ahead of me.  But if I ever figure some of it out and can do it myself, I promise all of you will be able to as well.  Maybe it's where I'm at in life's journey.  Seems I can teach better than I can learn.

Erfinder is also very easy to get along with.  All you need to do is think for yourself and bring something new to the table.  Just don't be surprised if what you think is new, he's seen and done years ago.  Some of the long hours I spent with him would cost a small fortune to get by way of formal education.  I kick myself for not taking better notes.    :-[


I can't say it better, in my time with him on emails and Skype I came away with the impression that he is very sincere, friendly, and helpful. He has some top of the line equipment, knows how to use it and is a master craftsman in his builds. Being a bit of a builder myself I am strongly biased in this direction and while I don't denigrate builders who don't have a machine shop in their lab I always am amazed and delighted at their perseverance and inventiveness. Kone is a good example of the get some pieces from the hardware store and build, "get er done"... he is a prolific builder. Then there are some more polished builders like Brad, Luc, Clanzer, possibly even myself. Then there is the creme de la creme of builders like Nali with outstanding graphics skills and impeccable building skills that are inspiring to say the least. I put erfinder's builds right up there. On Skype he was demonstrating a device for me and a couple of spins with his fingers and on to manipulate the scope while it (the device) ran down over minutes. Needless to say I was impressed with his knowledge and the design and implementation of his  devices.


And proud to add him to my list that says, "Friend"


Ron




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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #195 on: August 30, 2016, 05:34:39 PM »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #196 on: August 31, 2016, 04:28:50 AM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #197 on: August 31, 2016, 08:23:25 AM »
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No untrue, or exaggerated statements were made....You do yourself a disservice by highlighting that post.....every bit of it is true.

Only you would think that what cant be seen dose not exist--your mistake,not mine.

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Truth as you see it isn't truth, its truth as you see it.  Fact is, I am showing something new to all who choose to appreciate it. This party is just starting, when it reaches climax depends on the vested interests, it's not a one man show like it has been...it's not about you.

Only you would think you have something new,when in actual fact,it is only new to you.
You think known science dose not know what you do?.

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You would have demonstrated great wisdom by stopping at "what's the big deal...."  Everything that followed where you should have stopped, shows you are clueless as to what's going on in that stupid simple quick demo, and have offered your best wrong guess.  This isn't a guessing game.

Everything is a guessing game with you Erfinder-always has been.

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The LAG is an abomination, and the rotary transformer was/is an unfinished abomination.  Feel free to comment on my non existing work.  You share what you have, and have shared nothing, from this one can safely assume you have nothing?  The ignorant have demonstrated time and time again that they are the only ones who think I talk in riddles.

The ignorant make assumptions that something is not finished,because they have not seen the finished product.
The rotary transformer is far from your reach,so please refrain from making judgement on something you know nothing about.

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I don't make hour long videos that say nothing.

No-you make short video's that say even less.

You have nothing that comes even remotely close to the rotary transformer,but you are of course welcome to put your best up against it  ;).

What i have found in the past year,is many have lots to say(like your self),but when it comes to the crunch of answering a challenge-you,like many others,never have the balls to put your money where your mouth is-so to speak.

If you would like to be the third person to see what the !finished! rotary transformer can do,then challenge me with the best you have.
We will then see who has the abomination,and who has the good's.

I predict that you will not put your self in this position-like the many before you who made the same claims against me,through  fear of everyone else finding out who is the real deal,and who is nothing more than words on a page.

I practice induction, I don't just read about it and play with it in motors and generators.

Thats great,as i only play with motors and generator.
It (the challenge) should be a hands down win for you,as i am so far behind ;D

You have made claims against my work,and so now it's time you justify those claims.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #198 on: August 31, 2016, 08:55:44 AM »
erFINDER AND GENTLEMEN,

Ive watched you for a while now. Dont talk of metaphysics, circuits that are claimed to be working but "you just cant see it",  here, unless you want it measured and analyzed with science equipment, which it cant be.

Subjects like Keshe are so metaphysical it cant be discussed until you understand that intent drive the coils.

There are Keshe coils that are being built and sold in South America, by a group of friends I know of, who say, they are making successful electricity generating coils and the coils take time to be conditioned to produce more and more electricity daily using the intent of the operators. In the Northern hemisphere, Keshe is failing miserably. The measurers and doubters make sure of it. This is metaphysics and its beyond physics. There cannot be proof here. Its not measurable.

Perhaps we are successful or fail according to our intent.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #199 on: August 31, 2016, 11:02:20 AM »
Perhaps you could provide more info on its self motoring characteristics ?

I collect generated output in cap banks and then once per rev dump that back into the coils.
My build is constantly changing, always trying different things, one set-up was strange though and am trying to build it again , I would fire the coils for drive only for an instant and 180 deg. later the coils were giving a big kick to the rotation , a much bigger kick than the original dump.
It's like the coils themselves were acting like caps somehow.
I like to see the work of others sometimes it helps.
Thanks to all who contribute.
artv

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« Reply #199 on: August 31, 2016, 11:02:20 AM »
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Offline hoptoad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #200 on: August 31, 2016, 12:25:34 PM »
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    one set-up was strange though and am trying to build it again , I would fire the coils for drive only for an instant and 180 deg. later the coils were giving a big kick to the rotation , a much bigger kick than the original dump.
It's like the coils themselves were acting like caps somehow.
Interesting effect.
I like to see the work of others sometimes it helps.
Thanks to all who contribute.
artv
Yes, I like to see the work of others too. Like most here, I suffer from severe curiosity.  :)  An ailment I'm happy to bear. ;)

Offline tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #201 on: August 31, 2016, 03:17:13 PM »
The ignore function works, just wanted to share that in case anyone felt the need to use it, I just added two individuals.  Felt good.....




Regards
Ah,i see.

Was to be expected-and was as predicted.

Lets hope those here do not choose to ignore those who have given freely-and will continue to do so.


Brad

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« Reply #201 on: August 31, 2016, 03:17:13 PM »
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Offline Dog-One

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #202 on: August 31, 2016, 07:15:39 PM »
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Action and reaction are not sequential, they are not equal opposite, they are simultaneous-sequential, they are asymmetrical.

See, you do these things to us that make our heads hurt based on our learned definition of each word.

I get the concept, only because it came from you, but from anyone else, I would say to them, you're full of shit.  You can't be "at the same time" AND "in sequence".  Sequence infers order as in first, last.  Simultaneous infers exactly together in lock-step.

There has to be some words out there in the vast Aether that better describe this concept.  Something like cause and effect linkage, a recursive concept.  A condition where the cause comes from the effect as well as the effect coming from the cause.  An unbreakable bond of two distinct components that cannot be observed as anything but a singularity.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #203 on: August 31, 2016, 09:33:06 PM »
So when motoring , generation is happening, and when generating, motoring is happening?
The problem is they cancel, unless you can switch the operations on and off at the right times.

I've seen where you dump one cap bank for drive and makes another bank collecting generation jump by 30 percent.
Lenz is part of the function , no way around it that I can see, just need to design the system to take advantage of Lenz instead of eliminating it.
It has all to do with magnetic fields, the more fields you add , the more complicated it gets.
One field acts one way, Two fields act another , now add several ,whole new ball game.
I think everything is a result of interacting magnetic fields, the more the merrier.
artv

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #204 on: September 01, 2016, 12:47:39 AM »
@Erfinder,


Did you build a Transforming Generator replica?  The reason I ask is because I'm looking into Jim Murray's SERPS concept and I'd like to know as much about the the T.G. as possible.  I was speaking with another forum member and they suggested that you may have built one.   If so, do you have some youtube video links of any significant findings?


Thanks,


Dave


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #205 on: September 01, 2016, 10:21:04 AM »
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Sound good? Good, then we won't go into my relationship with Thane or Matt, LOL
Ron
LOL. I do remember you and I, and a few others, apparently being a thorn in the side of a certain TH.
But I don't actually remember any meanness from either of us. (Maybe I'm being selective, LOL) Though I do remember myself and yourself and a few others copping a lot of flak, and obfuscation from the other side of the opinion divide.  ;D

From memory, Nali hammered the final objective nail on the subject at hand.

Glad to see you're still actively tinkering. I've not done much tinkering with anything in the past few years, too busy earning a living, too tired during time off to get motivated.

I'm currently working two low paid part time jobs. Worst pay ever. Ironically, they are the best jobs I've ever had for earning that feeling of personal fulfillment. I started doing community and disability support work a few months ago, after doing the coursework and getting the qualifications needed. Shifts are short, many, with varying localities and times. And I'm loving it. Never a dull moment, with characters galore.

Cheers Ron... and keep on keepin' Ron!

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #206 on: September 01, 2016, 12:12:25 PM »
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The majority only consider "recovery", (kickback, the spike) the sequential effect of a well understood cause.  They are oblivious to the simultaneous aspect of recovery because those who provided them with that which they possess didn't tell them about the simultaneous aspect of recovery.
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Regards
@Erfinder
Just to clarify my own thoughts again, would it be fair to say that you may be alluding to the transformer effect outlined in 'Fig 19'.?
I think I'm thinking in the same general direction as you, as I re-visit the past, but I am still not really sure if we're on the same page yet. I may need a few lines drawn in for me.  :)
Cheers
Note* If people think I'm being cryptic, I'm simply referring to a diagram 'Fig 19' that I posted on a blog years ago regarding Adams motors.
For those who may be curious about what I'm alluding to, here's a link. It may or not contain info relevant to Erfinders current work, but you may still find it interesting to your own works re-pulsed motor-generators.
Go to page six. Scroll down to Fig 19.
http://hoptoads.5gbfree.com


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #207 on: September 01, 2016, 12:50:29 PM »
I remember that.....No, while I am referring to transformer action, I am not applying it like you are.  There are two key differences between what you are suggesting and what I am doing.
One, I prefer mosfets.....you know why......
Two, the second winding should not be rectified in this manner.....regardless of negative associations.
Regards
Cheers. Thanks for the lines! There's probably going to be a big time lag between me absorbing fresh information and actually putting it into practice . LOL Somebody hold that bus, I'm running late, again!

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #208 on: September 01, 2016, 03:15:12 PM »



Nope I haven't but I did build an air core, single phase, pulsed DC machine which exhibits the same phenomena that he references here:


https://youtu.be/HK3JOlY0V8Y?t=2520


I completely support the idea that beat frequency generation is involved here.  Of all that he is demonstrating, this concept has the most promise in my opinion, especially as it relates to air core systems.




Regards

So his latest motor draws 19 amps at 100 volts,and has no load on it.
So we have a 1.9Kw noisy heater--thats fantastic  ::)

Can anyone point me in the direction of any efficiency tests that Jim Murray has done on any of his machines ?,as i cant seem to find just one.

Sad times indeed to see so many bright minds being hoodwinked.



Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #209 on: September 01, 2016, 04:21:09 PM »

Motoring and generating are always taking place at the same time.  So far I have only mentioned the simultaneous-sequential nature of cause and effect as it applies to recovery.  I have not said anything regarding motoring and generating proper.  Were I to agree with you, I would be saying nothing you don't know already.  The generation that you are familiar with, the one operating inside your motor winding, is not being harvested.  Can it be harvested? 



Lenz offered us a way to look at things, that's it.  We can choose to follow his lead, or we can blaze our own trail guided by his suggestion.  I practice the latter. To truly neutralize the effect that Lenz has on your system you simply need to comprehend what he's saying.  I suggested that beat generation is the solution, it says it all, when you recognize what's being said, when you comprehend what's being implied.  Murray said the motor would need 1500v to run without the caps.....I know why the amperage shot up, cause I built a machine that does the same thing. The resident basher says it's stupid....and this only because he don't get it, he only sees a heater......  My god, some (one in particular) are so blind, and you people put these folks in charge.....




Regards

Looks like the ignore function is broken :D
Who are !you! people,and who is the folks in charge?.

How is Jim Murray's motors and generators coming alone--i mean,it has been !how many! years now ?

Look at the title of the video
Man Solves Tesla’s Secret To Amplifying Power By Nearly 5000%

Another lie,and a great insult to a great man(Tesla)

Jim Murray has solved nothing,as is evident in his video
Amplifies power by nearly 5000%-->another lie. He dose not even have a motor or generator that operates at 95% efficiency.
All he has so far is !nothing!

And another mis-direction on Murrays behalf
We have 55 foot pounds of torque,and only drawing 2.28 amp's of current  :o

What is torque without motion?
What is amp's without voltage ?

How can you promote rubbish like this Erfinder,and still sleep at night.
Do you not have the slightest bit of respect for the fellow members that are following you ?.

So many of them were on the right track,and now they are being pulled into the bottomless pit of nothingness--by you.

Sleep well


Brad

 

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