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Author Topic: Lenz free generator  (Read 387458 times)

Offline hoptoad

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Re: from umpa lumpa to umpa lumpa
« Reply #180 on: August 28, 2016, 07:38:29 AM »
snip..

As I have stated more often than not, ones connection with the material is what I am most interested in.
snip..
All that to say this, do I know something you don't......I would like to think I do....
Regards
That's one reason why I'm more interested in air core designs these days.
 
If I had a dollar for every time Tesla's name arises on this site, I'd be a wealthy man. :D
Now I can be two dollars richer, since I've already mentioned him once and now I'll do it again. :P
Tesla foresaw a day, when iron, the backbone of the industrial and electrical revolution, would not be needed in the construction of generators.
He was thankful for the ubiquity and cost of iron in his day but knew the limitations it imposes on his systems.


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Re: from umpa lumpa to umpa lumpa
« Reply #180 on: August 28, 2016, 07:38:29 AM »

Offline shylo

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #181 on: August 28, 2016, 09:46:18 AM »
That's one reason why I'm more interested in air core designs these days.

Hi hoptoad, My generator is an air core but also acts as its' own motor.
Do you have any examples of air core designs.
Thanks artv

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #182 on: August 28, 2016, 11:47:42 AM »
snip..
Hi hoptoad, My generator is an air core but also acts as its' own motor.
Do you have any examples of air core designs.
Thanks artv
I have no examples to give that are either unique, out of the ordinary, or even terribly interesting, other than favorable power to weight ratio characteristics.
Your generator sounds interesting. Perhaps you could provide more info on its self motoring characteristics ?
Cheers




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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #182 on: August 28, 2016, 11:47:42 AM »
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Offline Kator01

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #183 on: August 28, 2016, 11:57:22 PM »
my objection to this test is that this is no proof.
Why ?

1)
Due diligence demands another test without the neons.
I would expect the recovery-condenser charging faster without neons.

2)
without schematics this test remains just a claim... no proof.
Schematic would show if he has applied appropriate electronic means of capturing the the maximum possible collapse-energy.

regards
Kator



Offline tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #184 on: August 29, 2016, 04:16:18 PM »
my objection to this test is that this is no proof.
Why ?

1)
Due diligence demands another test without the neons.
I would expect the recovery-condenser charging faster without neons.

2)
without schematics this test remains just a claim... no proof.
Schematic would show if he has applied appropriate electronic means of capturing the the maximum possible collapse-energy.

regards
Kator

 Kator,your just banging your head against a brick wall,if you think you will get any sense at all from Erfinder-or anything useful.
He will ask for your opinion,and in the next post,he will say that he was not asking for your opinion.

Example-post 208
Quote: Can we generate observable transient activity (in a neon), while recovering in the traditional sense in pulse motors?

Here he clearly asks a question.
And when you question his video  ::)--well here is what you get in reply.

Post 211
Quote: I am not asking you nor anyone here anything, I am telling you something.

So in one post,he is asking everyone a question,and in the next post he is not asking anyone anything :D

What he showed in his video,is once again-nothing new.
I once thought he was miles ahead,but now i see just how far behind he is.

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Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #184 on: August 29, 2016, 04:16:18 PM »
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Offline Grumage

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #185 on: August 29, 2016, 04:48:45 PM »
Dear Brad.

I read Erfinder's post a little differently.

" I am telling you something "

I might have also worded it.... " I am showing you something "

One mans personal opinion.

Cheers Grum.

Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #186 on: August 29, 2016, 05:10:51 PM »
Kator,your just banging your head against a brick wall,if you think you will get any sense at all from Erfinder-or anything useful.
He will ask for your opinion,and in the next post,he will say that he was not asking for your opinion.

snip
So in one post,he is asking everyone a question,and in the next post he is not asking anyone anything :D

What he showed in his video,is once again-nothing new.
I once thought he was miles ahead,but now i see just how far behind he is.


Brad




What you two guys are missing is that was a rhetorical question.... he knows the answer and is about to tell you.


Erfinder then posts a video which is self explanatory... but you both chose to get your backs up and deny what you saw, strange?


What you two have done is kill an interesting thread. I would like to have seen where he was taking us.


That and the other video in the side bar are top notch, precise and to the point, well filmed, camera on a tripod so no vertigo from a camera being waved about like a fire hose... no, "I like to talk non-stop for 20 minutes BS", I like it


Erfinder, don't let these bumps in the road deter you from posting more on these little conundrums ... that lead to learning.


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #186 on: August 29, 2016, 05:10:51 PM »
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #187 on: August 29, 2016, 07:21:02 PM »





Personal attacks are counter productive, period. All they do is put on public display one's ignorance and emotional insecurity.


How can we expect a better world if here at the macro level we show no empathy, tolerance or understanding for our fellow researchers?

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I hope you guys have been following Keshe?


Keshe said one thing that really caught my attention.

The Soul of a man manifests fields, so many that he has a physical body. That is what Souls do. A man can manifest anything he needs, and take from the universe what he needs. If he instead turns to greed, and does not give of his abundance to others, the universe cannot give any more to him, as he is full.

 
So the concept is to learn to give to others, of your abundance, and the Soul we are becomes satisfied.
This is a total reversing of the general attitude of the money concept, where we all have to compete to gain financial security just to survive. We are conditioned to take, hoard, and think only of ourselves, while others in the world starve.

 
 
A reversal of the entire system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwxHYZDfyyc


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #188 on: August 29, 2016, 08:10:52 PM »
@I_ron
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What you two guys are missing is that was a rhetorical question.... he knows the answer and is about to tell you.

It is a matter of depth in my opinion and some peoples thoughts are like a lake ... expansive, deep and clear. Then we have others who's thoughts are like spilling a glass of water on the floor...shallow, transparent and predictable. I think most know exactly who we are referring to in this respect.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #188 on: August 29, 2016, 08:10:52 PM »
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Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #189 on: August 29, 2016, 10:18:48 PM »
@I_ron
It is a matter of depth in my opinion and some peoples thoughts are like a lake ... expansive, deep and clear. Then we have others who's thoughts are like spilling a glass of water on the floor...shallow, transparent and predictable. I think most know exactly who we are referring to in this respect.

AC


Although thinly disguised that is still character assassination. Do we need that?


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #190 on: August 30, 2016, 01:27:18 AM »
@i_ron
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Although thinly disguised that is still character assassination. Do we need that?


Your statement reminds me of a science article I once read concerning intelligence and a complex binary number sequence experiment. The experiment is as follows, the subject walks into a white room with a red table and on the table is a grey metal box, a pad of white paper and a yellow pencil with a pink eraser. The metal box has four clear blue plastic buttons labelled 1, 2, 3, 4 and next to it a red light. They are given specific instructions: There are 5040 possible combinations and if you choose the correct one the red light will come on and you can open the box and collect your prize. You will be given X amount of time and when the time runs out the test is finished.


The most intelligent people spent the most time doing calculations determining the exact odds and most likely combinations then proceeded to input the correct combinations. The average people had weak mathematical and memory skills so they wrote down the combinations as they tried them so they wouldn't forget what they had done, a methodical approach which I might try. The least intelligent people had no idea so they first tried random combinations hoping to get lucky. Then they forgot what they were doing and started writing the numbers they tried down on the pad after the fact like the average people.


Obviously complex number sequences and mathematics is not for everyone nor is finding solutions to complex number problems. However the experiment revealed something remarkable because all of the groups mentioned above failed the test except for a very small number of test subjects. These great minds did something extraordinary and didn't listen to the instructions, they didn't calculate the odds nor did they jump to conclusions. They sat there for a while and then simply opened the box because it was never locked.


There is no need to assassinate anyone's character as you say because we do this quite well all by ourselves. As well now that you mention it who's character do you think I was assassinating because I didn't mention anyone by name but I'm sure everyone has someone in mind. I guess the obvious question is who's name came to mind and why because I don't know what others are thinking. Thus we come full circle don't we?, and it is this preconceived notion of things which generally comes round to bite us in the ass. Such is life in this strange place we call home.


On a note of interest I consider Erfinder a great mind but much more important to me a genuinely good person and hopefully the unthinking hordes with honed pitchforks and torches blazing do not sway his resolve, you are lucky to have him.


AC
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Offline Dog-One

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #191 on: August 30, 2016, 04:35:35 AM »
Quote from: AC
On a note of interest I consider Erfinder a great mind but much more important to me a genuinely good person and hopefully the unthinking hordes with honed pitchforks and torches blazing do not sway his resolve, you are lucky to have him.


Yes, Erfinder is miles ahead of me.  But if I ever figure some of it out and can do it myself, I promise all of you will be able to as well.  Maybe it's where I'm at in life's journey.  Seems I can teach better than I can learn.

Erfinder is also very easy to get along with.  All you need to do is think for yourself and bring something new to the table.  Just don't be surprised if what you think is new, he's seen and done years ago.  Some of the long hours I spent with him would cost a small fortune to get by way of formal education.  I kick myself for not taking better notes.    :-[

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #192 on: August 30, 2016, 02:46:27 PM »




Personal attacks are counter productive, period. All they do is put on public display one's ignorance and emotional insecurity.


How can we expect a better world if here at the macro level we show no empathy, tolerance or understanding for our fellow researchers?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I hope you guys have been following Keshe?


Keshe said one thing that really caught my attention.

The Soul of a man manifests fields, so many that he has a physical body. That is what Souls do. A man can manifest anything he needs, and take from the universe what he needs. If he instead turns to greed, and does not give of his abundance to others, the universe cannot give any more to him, as he is full.

 
So the concept is to learn to give to others, of your abundance, and the Soul we are becomes satisfied.
This is a total reversing of the general attitude of the money concept, where we all have to compete to gain financial security just to survive. We are conditioned to take, hoard, and think only of ourselves, while others in the world starve.

 
 
A reversal of the entire system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwxHYZDfyyc


Ron

Couldnt agree more Ron,but i give what is given to me.

My post to you regarding my new L.A.G build
Post 73-->Ok,so i have given the L.A.G it's first run.
Below is a scope shot across each gen coil-blue trace is one gen coil,and yellow the other gen coil.
I have a 10 ohm load on each gen coil,and as expected,the motor speeds up under load--quite a bit more than i was expecting,along with a 50%+ drop in P/in
The output on the gen coils is being clamped ATM,by a 12 volt battery being used to arrest the BackEMF spike on the primary coils.
Will post more as i get all the circuit put together,and cleaned up.


Erfinders reponce to my work
Post 75

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Look familiar ?.

And another from Erfinder toward me.

Post 89
I am in no hurry to share anything with you.  You got everyone thinking you got it all figured out anyway.  I am enjoying the sideline laughing my ass off at your conjecture.  The longer one reads your posts and views your presentations, and then does ones own homework, and compares what one learns from what one reads /views from you, the more one sees that you are just as lost today as you were when you first started....
That one vague video of mine reveals more about what can be done, and the path which should be taken than your LAG, a title which has no justification, ever will. The thing I get the biggest kick out of is recognizing that you have no idea where the power you are desperately seeking is supposed to be coming from.  Its depressing watching you struggle with the concepts surrounding the acceleration concept, its even more depressing watching you drag the gullible from experiment to experiment and then dropping them off there, leaving them with the same questions that they started with.  If this weren't enough, the constant bitching and complaining and whining has literally stripped you of all street credit.  The scope and meters are more important than the ideas, and anyone who thinks opposite is an idiot?  I am fed the fuck up with all this, your term RUBBISH, and I am not alone, but the others will not voice their opinion, oh well....some one has to say something.
And all this from a guy who has yet to graduate from the SG circuit....This from a guy who has replicated every promising pulse motor concept, making it your business to show that the person you are replicating doesn't know what hes doing.  You sir don't know what you're doing, but you like to lead others to believe you do, fine and dandy, gonna need to draw out a map for all those garden paths you've led folk down.  One of my favorite fuck ups of yours pertains to the Zero Force Motor, I thought it was really amusing how you went out of your way to suggest that your misnamed concept is superior to that concept, its not, and you would know this had you done your homework on the subject, the concept and the associated principles, known and unknown to the public are old.  , a sick joke being played on the gullible, and a slap in the face to all who paved the way, you would be wise to review history.


So,if you (Ron),or anyone else think i am going to take shit like this from this ass hat,im sorry,but that is not going to happen.

Truth is,Erfinder has shown you nothing new,and if you think he has,then feel free to post it.

I see a video where two neon's light up,a cap charging,and an incandescent bulb lighting up--whats the big deal-->do you guys not know about  RF skin effect? .Would you think it magic if i showed a 3 volt LED surviving a voltage of over 200 volts across it, while happily lit with constant DC ?

When people say things like !!The LAG is an abomination!! about my work,then they will get the same in return. The big difference here is,i do not talk in riddles,and i share what i have.

Sorry guy's,but i dont take crap like that from anyone that disrespects the work i do,the way Erfinder has.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #193 on: August 30, 2016, 04:55:11 PM »
@i_ron
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There is no need to assassinate anyone's character as you say because we do this quite well all by ourselves. As well now that you mention it who's character do you think I was assassinating because I didn't mention anyone by name but I'm sure everyone has someone in mind. I guess the obvious question is who's name came to mind and why because I don't know what others are thinking. Thus we come full circle don't we?, and it is this preconceived notion of things which generally comes round to bite us in the ass. Such is life in this strange place we call home.


On a note of interest I consider Erfinder a great mind but much more important to me a genuinely good person and hopefully the unthinking hordes with honed pitchforks and torches blazing do not sway his resolve, you are lucky to have him.


AC


A C, as a fellow Canuck I accept your very graceful backing away from your previous post.


Now if I can just tweak your last sentence to read..."we are lucky to have him"


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #194 on: August 30, 2016, 05:09:27 PM »
Couldn't agree more Ron,but i give what is given to me.
snip

Sorry guy's,but i dont take crap like that from anyone that disrespects the work i do,the way Erfinder has.

Brad


Human nature being what it is... if you treat someone like a piece of shit then all that comes back is shit. What you might be overlooking is your previous comments and responses that led up to this. A less emotional response is the best response, always!


Sound good? Good, then we won't go into my relationship with Thane or Matt, LOL


Ron


 

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